Why is my under eye so bad?

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That's me not squinting. I've been lowkey paying attention to people when I talk and almost everyone has straight or nearly straight under eyelids, whereas mine is horrendous. I looked at photos from birth and I had the same thing, so I think it's genetic and mewing won't do anything. I have very atrophied aeygo sal, should I train that muscle daily or is it cope? Am I close to hunter eyes? Surgeries?

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Lower eyelid retraction.
 
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Dude your eyes are okay and mog half of this forum, chill
 
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ItsNotADream said:
Dude your eyes are okay and mog half of this forum, chill
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No... Not in this case. In all honesty, they aren't horrendous so as to stand out to normies, but his undereye support is quite bad indicated by scleral show.
 
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Ocelot said:
No... Not in this case. In all honesty, they aren't horrendous so as to stand out to normies, but his undereye support is quite bad indicated by scleral show.
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from a close angle all eyes look like fucking bug weird ass eyes
 
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How straig
Seppukucel said:
Lower eyelid retraction.
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How straight does that get them? Like can they make it a perfect line or is that too far for my eye?
 
16tyo said:
How straig

How straight does that get them? Like can they make it a perfect line or is that too far for my eye?
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Probably close.

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16tyo said:
Bro, close angle underlid support won't change, that's my main concern
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Then just do a surgery if you want to achieve hunter eyes, you can't do shit about otherwise, mewing doesn't really help much after age 14
 
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16tyo said:
That's me not squinting. I've been lowkey paying attention to people when I talk and almost everyone has straight or nearly straight under eyelids, whereas mine is horrendous. I looked at photos from birth and I had the same thing, so I think it's genetic and mewing won't do anything. I have very atrophied aeygo sal, should I train that muscle daily or is it cope? Am I close to hunter eyes? Surgeries?

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Not enough bone support from inferior orbital rim, probably shit maxilla too. Your lower eyelid is losing fight with gravity. It's over.

Post how it looks from side view.
 
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Not enough bone support from inferior orbital rim, probably shit maxilla too. Your lower eyelid is losing fight with gravity. It's over.

Post how it looks from side view.
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When I feel my undereye I can tell that bone is recessed, thats why i have no support. Does mewing and facepulling move this bone forward aswell? I feel like a single mm will be enough for significant difference in that bone cause then it will fully support it. Either way taban lower retraction should work
 
its because ur ethnic i think
 
16tyo said:
Does mewing and facepulling move this bone forward aswell?
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At that age it might help but I wouldn't count on it much.

Your maxilla might be very recessed too. I cant tell if you dont post side profile. So if you have sleep apnea, breathing problems, crooked teeth, then it's a good indicator that you might have to break your bones surgically and have them moved to fix this.
 
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At that age it might help but I wouldn't count on it much.

Your maxilla might be very recessed too. So if you have sleep apnea, breathing problems, crooked teeth, then it's a good indicator that you might have to break your bones surgically and have them moved to fix this.
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I have always breathed through my nose no problem, straight teeth. But pretty narrow palate. What are your thoughts on doing taban first because That will directly affect my eyes, and then fixing maxilla after for added benefits. I think eyes would add more PSL
 
16tyo said:
No, my brother has perfect eye support
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post pic of his Eyes so we can see what Went wrong.

also ur only 16? u look 25
 
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How narrow is it? Can you mew normally does your tongue fit between teeth?
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Yeah, but barely tbh. Facepulling with a towel (i.e biting on a towel then pulling upwards and away using triceps) feels alot more powerful than mewing, I feel like if i do that every 1 hour my maxilla will adapt. With mewing it dont get a searing sensation or anything in the maxilla, only with facepulling but idk I'll do all the copes cause its not too much effort
 
Yuyevon said:
post pic of his Eyes so we can see what Went wrong.

also ur only 16? u look 25
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Me (left) him (right), both very young I was probably like 5. Crazy scelera show, it's not that bad nowadays but still failo
 
16tyo said:
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Me (left) him (right), both very young I was probably like 5. Crazy scelera show, it's not that bad nowadays but still failo
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well ur looking up and hes looking straight but ur faces look identical, big round eyes
 
Yuyevon said:
well ur looking up and hes looking straight but ur faces look identical, big round eyes
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Trust me our under eyelids are completely different. His are pretty much straight, I aint even close
 
16tyo said:
Trust me our under eyelids are completely different. His are pretty much straight, I aint even close
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u need eyelid retraction and work ur Eye muscles by squinting
 
you would have a really good eye area if ur lower lid wasnt so droopy. brutal
 
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You need a lower eyelid retraction and then an implant or fatgrafting in your undereyes
 
u just need to mew because it moves your cheekbones up giving you a better under eye and chewing might help also
 
squinchmaxx brother, i went from droopy lower lids with scleral show to the eye area on my avi. you have good traits (eyebrows, eyelashes, hooding, downturned medial canthus, pct) and ur lower lids are holding u back.
 
TheEndHasNoEnd said:
squinchmaxx brother, i went from droopy lower lids with scleral show to the eye area on my avi. you have good traits (eyebrows, eyelashes, hooding, downturned medial canthus, pct) and ur lower lids are holding u back.
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What are your thoughts on pulling down with fingers on undereye area and squinting as hard as I can until failure for 3 sets? Do you have a squint workout or something?
 
justadude said:
you would have a really good eye area if ur lower lid wasnt so droopy. brutal
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Honestly. Every detail makes a huge difference in the eyes - one flaw and they're bad
 
16tyo said:
What are your thoughts on pulling down with fingers on undereye area and squinting as hard as I can until failure for 3 sets? Do you have a squint workout or something?
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oh i do something similar every now and then. what i do it i place my fingers on the outer corners and inner corners of my eyes, push up the outer corners against my brow bone, and push in while blinking as hard as i can. itll give you temporary hunter eyes but i believe it will overtime change the lower eyelid shape with such hypertrophy (i know mine did). the downside is that youll get nasolabial folds.
im planning a routine that incorporates this and bonesmashing as a way to maintain the shape for good.
 
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oh i do something similar every now and then. what i do it i place my fingers on the outer corners and inner corners of my eyes, push up the outer corners against my brow bone, and push in while blinking as hard as i can. itll give you temporary hunter eyes but i believe it will overtime change the lower eyelid shape with such hypertrophy (i know mine did). the downside is that youll get nasolabial folds.
im planning a routine that incorporates this and bonesmashing as a way to maintain the shape for good.
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push in the inner corner downwards, push up the outer corner upwards? Anything else? I want to do a routine 3 times a day to hypertrophy that muscle hard. I want to develop the muscle so I don't have to consistently squint (looks aspie asf) my eyes just naturally do it. Is that what results youve gotten or do you consciously have to squint
 
16tyo said:
push in the inner corner downwards, push up the outer corner upwards? Anything else? I want to do a routine 3 times a day to hypertrophy that muscle hard. I want to develop the muscle so I don't have to consistently squint (looks aspie asf) my eyes just naturally do it. Is that what results youve gotten or do you consciously have to squint
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nah dont push the inner corner in any direction, just push it in (the eyeball portion right next to it). my results are that my lower lid looks better than before and i have no scleral show at rest. when i do a slight squinch it looks like my pfp.
 
TheEndHasNoEnd said:
nah dont push the inner corner in any direction, just push it in (the eyeball portion right next to it). my results are that my lower lid looks better than before and i have no scleral show at rest. when i do a slight squinch it looks like my pfp.
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Yo just looked in the mirror after doing this and I stayed in a slight squint without trying then i relaxed my eyelid and it went back to scelra show. I'm assuming if I get this mscle big I will have softmaxxed my eyes.
 
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16tyo said:
Yo just looked in the mirror after doing this and I stayed in a slight squint without trying then i relaxed my eyelid and it went back to scelra show. I'm assuming if I get this mscle big I will have softmaxxed my eyes.
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yeah when i started this it wouldnt change my shape as much as it does now
 
Op you have the hooding but eyes are vertically short and you have shit eye support
Also can’t tell if the hooding is frauded or not
 
Mr.cope said:
Op you have the hooding but eyes are vertically short and you have shit eye support
Also can’t tell if the hooding is frauded or not
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They're vertically long you mean? If you're talking about width, I mog most people in photos in terms of PFL, idk how to measure it precisely though.
 
16tyo said:
They're vertically long you mean? If you're talking about width, I mog most people in photos in terms of PFL, idk how to measure it precisely though.
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Oh nvm I thought your eyes were too short
They are long but your weak under eye support makes it look short
 
Mr.cope said:
Oh nvm I thought your eyes were too short
They are long but your weak under eye support makes it look short
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Yeah vertical narrowness would showcase how long they really are, its all about the ratio
 
Seppukucel said:
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This surgery (cantho or lower eyelid retraction surgery) for this guy in the photo was a waste.
Guy would have been much better off spending that money on a decent eyebrow/eyelash transplant, rhinoplasty, or any lower third implant instead of something he could have achieved by just smizing.

PSA: Scleral show is the LEAST of your worries if you have Positive or Neutral Canthal tilt.:
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