Why is surgery fear mongered

[Tigermoggerlol]

Like really tho? Growing up you’ll here all this yap abt your moms friends getting fillers and boob implants or your uncle getting jaw surgery but then all the sudden looksmaxxing becomes a trend and everyone like “no no just thump bull broooo” like why arnt we going back the basics were cosmetics were the only way to ascend (unless your a fat chad with acne) like u think your moms friends or uncle is wearing zygo tape like bro let’s back to the basics

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Bump

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Like really tho? Growing up you’ll here all this yap abt your moms friends getting fillers and boob implants or your uncle getting jaw surgery but then all the sudden looksmaxxing becomes a trend and everyone like “no no just thump bull broooo” like why arnt we going back the basics were cosmetics were the only way to ascend (unless your a fat chad with acne) like u think your moms friends or uncle is wearing zygo tape like bro let’s back to the basics

i think some people think its ethically/morally wrong to do

 

[Duke Archer]

Gatekeeping obviously

People don't want others to ascend

It lets them have power over you

 

[Bryce]

There has always been a risk with surgery? And we always knew that. If anything they have gotten safer but newer methods are riskier because there is less information on what could go wrong yet

Tit fillers were known to burst and cause extreme sickness in the people who got them, jaw surgery is pretty low risk considering it's not a foreign chemical stewing around in your face muscles and fats

 

[Acquiescence]

It’s a fuck ton of money and most of us are broke as hell and if we get botched it’s another year+ of wageslaving to fix it

Also it’s not guaranteed to work and you might just look uncanny

There’s also inherent risk and you can only revise so much before you have to call it before your tissues commit sepuku

Not to mention having to wait till your mid 20s+ to ascend is unbelievably brutal, that’s the best portion of your prime years just fucking gone forever

And there’s inherent limitations on how much you can ascend based upon your age and looks base. For many reaching some flavor of normie is the absolute max they can hit even with the whole kitchen sink of procedures. Is it worth it going through all that just to still be invisible?

Any moral or bluepill reasons are bunk obv

I say all this as someone planning on getting OBO next year btw

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

i think some people think its ethically/morally wrong to do

Fr like it makes no sense if u broke your leg and u need surgery your not gonna use leg tape on it

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Gatekeeping obviously

People don't want others to ascend

It lets them have power over you

This plays in fs

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

There has always been a risk with surgery? And we always knew that. If anything they have gotten safer but newer methods are riskier because there is less information on what could go wrong yet

Tit fillers were known to burst and cause extreme sickness in the people who got them, jaw surgery is pretty low risk considering it's not a foreign chemical stewing around in your face muscles and fats

Of course there’s a risk same with getting your wisdom teeth removed lol. But ppl say think it’s wrong “bc your supposed to love yourself” and fillers are awesome u can morph your face any way u want for cheap

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Fr like it makes no sense if u broke your leg and u need surgery your not gonna use leg tape on it

a common argument i hear is
they say '' ''mommy/daddy why dont i look like you'' '' their problem is the kids dont look like the parents after surgeries and their shit genes get passed down

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

It’s a fuck ton of money and most of us are broke as hell and if we get botched it’s another year+ of wageslaving to fix it

Also it’s not guaranteed to work and you might just look uncanny

There’s also inherent risk and you can only revise so much before you have to call it before your tissues commit sepuku

Not to mention having to wait till your mid 20s+ to ascension is unbelievably brutal, that’s the best portion of your prime years just fucking gone forever

And there’s inherent limitiatiins of how much you can attend based upon your age and looks base. For many reaching some flavor of normie is the absolute max they can hit even with the whole kitchen sink of procedures. Is it worth it going through all that just to still be invisible?

Any moral or bluepill reasons are bunk obv

I say all this as someone planning on getting OBO near year btw

This is true money does play a big role but would u rather waste years of your life doing face exercises or get it done rn even if its just fillers

 

[Bryce]

fillers are awesome

They are the opposite of awesome, they're disgusting, I'd wager to guess double jaw surgery carries less risk than fillers do

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

a common argument i hear is
they say '' ''mommy/daddy why dont i look like you'' '' their problem is the kids dont look like the parents after surgeries and their shit genes get passed down

This is true unfortunately they have to provide surgery funds aswell lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

They are the opposite of awesome, they're disgusting, I'd wager to guess double jaw surgery carries less risk than fillers do

I mean it depends on the base let’s say your reccesed to mars then yeah u need jaw surgery. But if your chin is reccesed and your jaw is thin then fillers will save u

 

[Acquiescence]

This is true money does play a big role but would u rather waste years of your life doing face exercises or get it done rn even if its just fillers

I’m ultimately choosing to “waste” years pursuing surgery because it’s the last big life bucket list item on my plate of wants before giving up entirely and gunning for early NEET rotmaxxed retirement

 

[Bryce]

I mean it depends on the base let’s say your reccesed to mars then yeah u need jaw surgery. But if your chin is reccesed and your jaw is thin then fillers will save u

Implants would be a far better option all around considering they look better and won't migrate. People also underestimate migration and how your body deals with the fillers. I saw a girl on TikTok the other day who got lip fillers, they told her in 5 months they'd be gone, and 2 years later her lips got even puffier and the fillers migrated to other spots on her face. How your body deals with it varies from person to person, this is also why surgery is super risky, what worked for one person isn't guaranteed to work for you

 

[chrishell]

I’m ultimately choosing to “waste” years pursuing surgery because it’s the last big life bucket list item on my plate of wants before giving up entirely and gunning for early NEET rotmaxxed retirement

That's a good plan

I have a feeling you will ascend

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I’m ultimately choosing to “waste” years pursuing surgery because it’s the last big life bucket list item on my list before giving up entirely and gunning for early NEET rotmaxxed retirement

But that’s the thing this shouldn’t be the mindset if u were born with bad genes and u have a shit nose a bad jaw etc. And you care abt your looks your first priority should be fixing that

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Implants would be a far better option all around considering they look better and won't migrate. People also underestimate migration and how your body deals with the fillers. I saw a girl on TikTok the other day who got lip fillers, they told her in 5 months they'd be gone, and 2 years later her lips got even puffier and the fillers migrated to other spots on her face. How your body deals with it varies from person to person, this is also why surgery is super risky, what worked for one person isn't guaranteed to work for you

This is why u don’t wait for it to migrate many ppl who do fillers dissolve them every few months and re do them. Yes it’s expensive in the long run but that’s why u need to learn how to do them yourself

 

[Acquiescence]

But that’s the thing this shouldn’t be the mindset if u were born with bad genes and u have a shit nose a bad jaw etc. And you care abt your looks your first priority should be fixing that

But it should be? I think we mostly agree here, fixing your looks should be a top priority in life, I’m just mentioning that there are very real reasons to be cautious while pursuing hardmaxxing and to do a realistic ROI on it’s impact on your life vs the trade off of what that money could do for you otherwise (in my case, getting to retirement a couple years earlier - I’m willing to sacrifice that for the hopes of a better life than permaLDAR via surgical ascension)

 

[Bryce]

This is why u don’t wait for it to migrate many ppl who do fillers dissolve them every few months and re do them. Yes it’s expensive in the long run but that’s why u need to learn how to do them yourself

Yeah, but that is ridiculous. Imagine now you geomax after hardmax and show up as the guy with amazing bone structure only for it to slightly diminish over time and then magically reappear. You would be a laughing stock. Not to mention fillers are very unnatural looking in high amounts, but in low amounts they make almost no noticeable difference. Filler is for retards in my opinion

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

But it should be? I think we mostly agree here, fixing your looks should be a top priority in life, I’m just mentioning that there are very real reasons to be cautious while pursuing hardmaxxing and to do a realistic ROI on it’s impact on your life vs the trade off of what that money could do for you otherwise (in my case, getting to retirement a couple years earlier - I’m willing to sacrifice that for the hopes of a better life than permaLDAR via surgical ascension)

Yeah that’s true but it’s also depends what surgery’s u wanna persue to. Like your getting OBO that’s a massive surgery with a lot of risk. But this goes more towards the ppl who fear longer bimax, rhino, fillers,etc

 

[svarddre]

They are the opposite of awesome, they're disgusting, I'd wager to guess double jaw surgery carries less risk than fillers do

You would have a point if filler wasn’t dissolvable

 

[Hexxon]

Like really tho? Growing up you’ll here all this yap abt your moms friends getting fillers and boob implants or your uncle getting jaw surgery but then all the sudden looksmaxxing becomes a trend and everyone like “no no just thump bull broooo” like why arnt we going back the basics were cosmetics were the only way to ascend (unless your a fat chad with acne) like u think your moms friends or uncle is wearing zygo tape like bro let’s back to the basics

biggest issue with surgery is finding an actual good surgeon

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Yeah, but that is ridiculous. Imagine now you geomax after hardmax and show up as the guy with amazing bone structure only for it to slightly diminish over time and then magically reappear. You would be a laughing stock. Not to mention fillers are very unnatural looking in high amounts, but in low amounts they make almost no noticeable difference. Filler is for retards in my opinion

It’s not unatural at all we can take bgm and Madison beer for example. Greycels think they’ve had nothing done. Also you can just not go outside during the procces and when u age and become an old geezer and can’t do fillers no more being a laughing stock won’t matter

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

biggest issue with surgery is finding an actual good surgeon

This is true but it’s not hard. It’s just some ppl refuse to deep dive into ACC feedbacks not just the success like all of it botches success etc

 

[Bryce]

You would have a point if filler wasn’t dissolvable

It's dissolvable but do we even know the long term implications of this yet? You can't really tell me there's no apparent risk to injecting a glycosaminoglycan into your face, and keep in mind fillers have been known to cause necrosis in the tissues and vision loss from migration. I'm not trying to stop anyone from getting them I'm just saying that it isn't normal and your body can certainly reject it

 

[Hexxon]

This is true but it’s not hard. It’s just some ppl refuse to deep dive into ACC feedbacks not just the success like all of it botches success etc

it depends on the surgery imo, like it didn't take me long to find one for kerato, but I have been searching for ages for a chin and jaw implant surgeon

 

[Bryce]

It’s not unatural at all we can take bgm and Madison beer for example. Greycels think they’ve had nothing done. Also you can just not go outside during the procces and when u age and become an old geezer and can’t do fillers no more being a laughing stock won’t matter

You can definitely tell BGM and Madison had fillers, Madison looks uncanny now and BGM looks like a sweaty wax statue who's always doing an aspie stare. Both looked more normal without the fillers

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

It's dissolvable but do we even know the long term implications of this yet? You can't really tell me there's no apparent risk to injecting a glycosaminoglycan into your face, and keep in mind fillers have been known to cause necrosis in the tissues and vision loss from migration. I'm not trying to stop anyone from getting them I'm just saying that it isn't normal and your body can certainly reject it

This is really rare tho and it also matter were u inject like if your getting Supra and infra fillers obv it’s gonna be more risky but just a simple chin filler jaw and cheekbone Won’t have much risk

 

[Bryce]

This is really rare tho and it also matter were u inject like if your getting Supra and infra fillers obv it’s gonna be more risky but just a simple chin filler jaw and cheekbone Won’t have much risk

Probably not but I'd hate to find out

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

it depends on the surgery imo, like it didn't take me long to find one for kerato, but I have been searching for ages for a chin and jaw implant surgeon

That’s also true but for the vast mejority of ppl they just want a simple bimax or rhino wich isn’t hard to find unless your looking for one for lefort 3 and OBO lol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

You can definitely tell BGM and Madison had fillers, Madison looks uncanny now and BGM looks like a sweaty wax statue who's always doing an aspie stare. Both looked more normal without the fillers

They both looked like shit with no fillers lol Madison was originally a boneless dimoless mf same with bgm but now that they both got fillers they look amazing bc they ACC have dimo and ang and most ppl don’t know ive shown them to many ppl and 70% of the time they think they were born like that

 

[svarddre]

It's dissolvable but do we even know the long term implications of this yet? You can't really tell me there's no apparent risk to injecting a glycosaminoglycan into your face, and keep in mind fillers have been known to cause necrosis in the tissues and vision loss from migration. I'm not trying to stop anyone from getting them I'm just saying that it isn't normal and your body can certainly reject it

Necrosis is from poor injection, if you have no reaction after a couple days then the risk of necrosis is gone, and again there’s something to be said that migration comes from poor injection technique. You cant call out a chance of necrosis from filler but ignore the fact that there’s a higher chance from implants.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Probably not but I'd hate to find out

Just be smart with it

 

[Bryce]

They both looked like shit with no fillers lol Madison was originally a boneless dimoless mf same with bgm but now that they both got fillers they look amazing bc they ACC have dimo and ang and most ppl don’t know ive shown them to many ppl and 70% of the time they think they were born like that

Eh, I can see right through it, Madison was way better before imo I hate this look

Looked like a pretty normal woman before an looks like a plastic sex doll now, gross

 

[Bryce]

Necrosis is from poor injection, if you have no reaction after a couple days then the risk of necrosis is gone, and again there’s something to be said that migration comes from poor injection technique. You cant call out a chance of necrosis from filler but ignore the fact that there’s a higher chance from implants.

I have yet to hear of craniofacial implants causing necrosis, looking it up online yields no results. Of course, facial implants are more niche than fillers, so fillers will have a higher incident rate, but neither are ideal. Your body doesn't want foreign objects sitting in your face, and craniofacial implants have a host of different issues like lowering bone density

Fillers feel more sinister to me though, with craniofacial implants you're 100% understanding the risks involved and are taking a big step, they're expensive as hell and require months of planning. Fillers are simple you just walk into a clinic and get them done in office, a lot of people are unaware of the risks, and getting botched is more common than it seems, clinics won't post botched results obviously, so when you look it up it seems like it's just a great harmless thing to have done

 

[svarddre]

I have yet to hear of craniofacial implants causing necrosis, looking it up online yields no results. Of course, facial implants are more niche than fillers, so fillers will have a higher incident rate, but neither are ideal. Your body doesn't want foreign objects sitting in your face, and craniofacial implants have a host of different issues like lowering bone density

Fillers feel more sinister to me though, with craniofacial implants you're 100% understanding the risks involved and are taking a big step, they're expensive as hell and require months of planning. Fillers are simple you just walk into a clinic and get them done in office, a lot of people are unaware of the risks, and getting botched is more common than it seems, clinics won't post botched results obviously, so when you look it up it seems like it's just a great harmless thing to have done

I think this is fair, the availability of filler does need to be fixed imo, they also serve different purposes though - people forget that filler was created for soft tissue restoration, not for bone. That being said, I did get jaw filler to get an idea of what implants could look like. tbh I will not be getting filler again but I think it serves a purpose as a “trial run” for implanrs. It only lasted me like 2 months though

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Eh, I can see right through it, Madison was way better before imo I hate this look

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Looked like a pretty normal woman before an looks like a plastic sex doll now, gross

I love her new look she went from a boneless mtb to one of the best Stacy’s in the world rn

 

[Bryce]

I love her new look she went from a boneless mtb to one of the best Stacy’s in the world rn

Is it just makeup or did she do something to her eyes? PFL looks wider

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Is it just makeup or did she do something to her eyes? PFL looks wider

She got fox eye and a brow lift

 

[Brian Weber]

Aint nobodys uncle getting jaw surgery nigga

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Aint nobodys uncle getting jaw surgery nigga

Well it was for reference u get the point

 

[Foreverbrad]

Firstly, normies don’t like cosmetic surgery because it disrupts their hierarchy.

Secondly, men taking care of their looks at all is still considered strange. Perhaps this is again because it muddies the waters of who has good genetics and who doesn’t.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Firstly, normies don’t like cosmetic surgery because it disrupts their hierarchy.

Secondly, men taking care of their looks at all is still considered strange. Perhaps this is again because it muddies the waters of who has good genetics and who doesn’t.

This is true icl u don’t see much men getting work done

 

[aids]

Because it’s okay for women to have cosmetic procedures that aren’t necessary but deemed stupid for a man to do the same.
This has always been a taboo topic, it’s just that now people are aware of the fact that you can get surgeries on your face for purely cosmetic reasons which they think is stupid, partially because they don’t want others to look better than them, and partially because they’re projecting their fear of something going wrong onto the person getting a procedure.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Like really tho? Growing up you’ll here all this yap abt your moms friends getting fillers and boob implants or your uncle getting jaw surgery but then all the sudden looksmaxxing becomes a trend and everyone like “no no just thump bull broooo” like why arnt we going back the basics were cosmetics were the only way to ascend (unless your a fat chad with acne) like u think your moms friends or uncle is wearing zygo tape like bro let’s back to the basics

Get it yourself and post images after.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Like really tho? Growing up you’ll here all this yap abt your moms friends getting fillers and boob implants or your uncle getting jaw surgery but then all the sudden looksmaxxing becomes a trend and everyone like “no no just thump bull broooo” like why arnt we going back the basics were cosmetics were the only way to ascend (unless your a fat chad with acne) like u think your moms friends or uncle is wearing zygo tape like bro let’s back to the basics

Ur broke anyways

 

[Mainlander]

surgeries keep me alive

the only hope I have

imagine being born poor

or in a time where these surgeries dont exist

its the biggest gift that we have

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Because it’s okay for women to have cosmetic procedures that aren’t necessary but deemed stupid for a man to do the same.
This has always been a taboo topic, it’s just that now people are aware of the fact that you can get surgeries on your face for purely cosmetic reasons which they think is stupid, partially because they don’t want others to look better than them, and partially because they’re projecting their fear of something going wrong onto the person getting a procedure.

This is true but still tho I be seeing on social media that even girls get shamed for getting cosmetics.