Why is therapy so completely useless and trash?

[MoggerGaston]

Wasted 1 year of my life doing this shit 12hours/week after also being on a waiting-list for a year and filling in like 8 hours worth of in-person guided questionaires.

Hasn't helped me at all: The therapists keep changing my 'diagnosis', what my issues are. I don't feel like I am progressing in any way.
Then the therapists change every 6 months or so and u start all over again with some new woman who has no clue who you are.

One session they tell me I am too emotional during the session, the other session they tell me I have to be more emotional. It's a mess.

I keep getting rejected also, like if I get angry for what my parents did to me during 1 session due to triggered PTSD-flashbacks, and then they tell me I need to 'cooldown' and I am not welcome for a week JFL.
And now they kicked me out entirely for telling them I am sick of them changing their idea of what my issue is every other week as it just confuses me and it makes no sense to do that on an instant hunch anyways.

It's honestly suck a fucking shit-show. Mental health-care needs to be defunded. What a waste of taxpayer money (public insurance is paying for all this shit here).

I saw how much they declare and it's been tens of thousands of euros already in costs (free for me), but even for free this stuff has negative value to my life.

 

[kviijjj]

It's just a becky feeding you cope and judging you for hella money over if you genuinely go to therapy

 

[browncurrycel]

Chad doesn't have trauma. He gives Stacies trauma. And guys like me have to deal with Stacy's broken heart

 

[brownmutt42]

Because all they really do is try to gaslight you, at least ime

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's just a becky feeding you cope and judging you for hella money over if you genuinely go to therapy

I feel like therapy was invented to give females these imaginary public-paid jobs and places to go to for talking.

like 80% of the clients in mental-healthcare are female and 80% of the therapists are female. It's an entirely useless and taxpayer money wasting industry.

Remove it and nothing in society would change but you would be saving billions.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Chad doesn't have trauma. He gives Stacies trauma. And guys like me have to deal with Stacy's broken heart

jfl true. But that's also because women always try to blame men or a man for their issues.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Because all they really do is try to gaslight you, at least ime

It's group-therapy and we are 2 guys and 7 girls in the group.

It's a shit vibe but they told me they don't offer intensive individual therapy unless I want to do 45min/week and leave it at that. Which would be entirely inconsequential and have no impact at all.

if talking to a female for 45mins/week would fix your mental-issues, then you hardly had any mental-issues at all. Like maybe if your dad died or your relationship broke appart then such a thing would help you a bit. But if you have any real trauma or troubled childhood, you are FUCKED.

 

[sub5outsider]

if you cant help yourself no one can

 

[277]

I went to a psychologist and she called me a psychopath

 

[Arminus]

Wasted 1 year of my life doing this shit 12hours/week after also being on a waiting-list for a year and filling in like 8 hours worth of in-person guided questionaires.

Hasn't helped me at all: The therapists keep changing my 'diagnosis', what my issues are. I don't feel like I am progressing in any way.
Then the therapists change every 6 months or so and u start all over again with some new woman who has no clue who you are.

One session they tell me I am too emotional during the session, the other session they tell me I have to be more emotional. It's a mess.

I keep getting rejected also, like if I get angry for what my parents did to me during 1 session due to triggered PTSD-flashbacks, and then they tell me I need to 'cooldown' and I am not welcome for a week JFL.
And now they kicked me out entirely for telling them I am sick of them changing their idea of what my issue is every other week as it just confuses me and it makes no sense to do that on an instant hunch anyways.

It's honestly suck a fucking shit-show. Mental health-care needs to be defunded. What a waste of taxpayer money (public insurance is paying for all this shit here).

I saw how much they declare and it's been tens of thousands of euros already in costs (free for me), but even for free this stuff has negative value to my life.

I think men should only have men therapists female ones do not understand how men operate or think, that psychology degree they have is bullshit if they don’t understand, for example you wouldn’t put a woman who’s been raped in front of a male therapist would you?

 

[glaruz]

Cuz the solution to all problems is looking like a teen and getting teen pussy. Eveything else is cope.

 

[MoggerGaston]

if you cant help yourself no one can

indeed
self-medicating with MDMA, psychedelics and ketamine mogs

 

[flippasav]

Because it doesn’t always work for everyone

 

[MoggerGaston]

Because it doesn’t always work for everyone

I don't know anyone for who therapy has done a thing unless they had some insignificant issue in the first place. Like feeling scared of failing exams or something lmao.

 

[Primalsplit]

I went to a psychologist and she called me a psychopath

Based.

I don't know anyone for who therapy has done a thing unless they had some insignificant issue in the first place. Like feeling scared of failing exams or something lmao.

What exactly is your issue anyway? I know you're fucked up in the head and it's effecting your life but let's be clearer here.

 

[TheVoidInside]

because therapists are bluepilled

 

[ImVerySorry]

12hours/week

thats WAYYYYY too much

 

[MoggerGaston]

thats WAYYYYY too much

it's not enough, it doesn't have impact

maybe for you with your insignificant issues, a 45min session once every 2 weeks is enough. like talking about blackpill or something

 

[ImVerySorry]

it's not enough, it doesn't have impact

talking to some twat wont do shietttt, you need to lift weights, go to church, give yourself meaning in life.

 

[160cmcurry]

therapy only works if emma myers is your therapist

 

[MoggerGaston]

talking to some twat wont do shietttt, you need to lift weights, go to church, give yourself meaning in life.

jfl

u dont have a fucking clue about life

 

[ImVerySorry]

jfl

u dont have a fucking clue about life

im right though

 

[MoggerGaston]

Based.


What exactly is your issue anyway? I know you're fucked up in the head and it's effecting your life but let's be clearer here.

I feel like I can never be good enough, therefore making anything I do largely meaningless and unenjoyable to me unless it fits this goal of making me good enough but this goal can't be reached.
Also I can't form close connections due to fear of rejection/abandonment, feeling like I don't belong and resurfacing negative emotions from past experiences.

This stems from parental child-abuse and social-rejection by peers as a kid/teen.

 

[MoggerGaston]

im right though

what will lifting weights do for recovering from PTSD from decades of parental childhood abuse?

youre so lowIQ its insane

 

[MoggerGaston]

I am literally an orphan since the age of 24yo, because I had to abandon my family due to them being a massive negative force in my life.

It's literally bottom 5% life circumstances to not have any family at the age of 24yo after being abused by them for decades.

 

[Primalsplit]

I feel like I can never be good enough, therefore making anything I do largely meaningless and unenjoyable to me unless it fits this goal of making me good enough but this goal can't be reached.
Also I can't form close connections due to fear of rejection/abandonment, feeling like I don't belong and resurfacing negative emotions from past experiences.

This stems from parental child-abuse and social-rejection by peers as a kid/teen.

I suppose everything you describe here is one big giant problem, right? Your fear of rejection and resurfacing negative emotions are all because of not being able to measure up?

 

[deadstock]

It's a complete joke

 

[Primalsplit]

I feel like I can never be good enough, therefore making anything I do largely meaningless and unenjoyable to me unless it fits this goal of making me good enough but this goal can't be reached.
Also I can't form close connections due to fear of rejection/abandonment, feeling like I don't belong and resurfacing negative emotions from past experiences.

This stems from parental child-abuse and social-rejection by peers as a kid/teen.

Also, is that why you used to get so pissed off back when I was teasing you constantly about not being as high iq as you think? (Haha Fun times)

 

[RapeAllFemales]

The real therapy would be the therapist to do doggy style and I fuck her from behind, if im an incel she needs to offer sex to me

 

[ImVerySorry]

what will lifting weights do for recovering from PTSD from decades of parental childhood abuse?

youre so lowIQ its insane

it literally helps, close-minded twerp.

Feasibility of Resistance Exercise for Posttraumatic Stress and Anxiety Symptoms: A Randomized Controlled Pilot Study - PubMed

Emerging evidence suggests that exercise may beneficially affect posttraumatic stress symptoms (PTSS), but few randomized trials exist. Additionally, the effects of resistance exercise (i.e., weight lifting or strength training) on PTSS have not been thoroughly examined. This study aimed to...

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Trauma informed weight lifting: considerations for coaches, trainers and gym environments - PMC

A growing body of research supports weight lifting as an effective adjunct intervention in the treatment of psychological trauma and trauma-related disorders. However, studies indicate that numerous barriers exist to participation in weight lifting, ...

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High intensity resistance training improves sleep quality and anxiety in individuals who screen positive for posttraumatic stress disorder: A randomized controlled feasibility trial

Posttraumatic stress is disorder (PTSD) is a disabling psychological condition that often causes chronic sleep issues. Exercise has beneficial effects…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[MoggerGaston]

I suppose everything you describe here is one big giant problem, right? Your fear of rejection and resurfacing negative emotions are all because of not being able to measure up?

I guess it's correlated in the sense that my parents rejected me as a kid so you try to fullfill some type of conditions to get parental love which is supposed to be unconditional. This obviously doesn't work since you were never going to be loved anyways, but as a kid I don't think you have much of a chance than trying to win your parents' love.
Add social-rejection from peers on top of that and the mental-torture is complete, destroying your brain due to internatilizing these events as stemming from your own inadequacy.

something like that probably. it cant be undone

 

[widdi]

Therapists believe our brains work like this: Our thoughts create emotions and those emotions create actions. And our perceptions of our actions create new thoughts.

Because they believe this, therapists do the following. They first identify bad thoughts, then they disrupt bad thoughts and lastly, they replace the bad thoughts with good thoughts.

The problem is that our emotions can also create thoughts and actions. Therapists can’t change emotions above just saying “think happy thoughts” because they can’t change the stuff in our lives that causes negative emotions. You have to do that yourself, and if you can’t…

 

[RapeAllFemales]

Therapists believe our brains work like this: Our thoughts create emotions and those emotions create actions. And our perceptions of our actions create new thoughts.

Because they believe this, therapists do the following. They first identify bad thoughts, then they disrupt bad thoughts and lastly, they replace the bad thoughts with good thoughts.

The problem is that our emotions can also create thoughts and actions. Therapists can’t change emotions above just saying “think happy thoughts” because they can’t change the stuff in our lives that causes negative emotions. You have to do that yourself, and if you can’t…

All pseudoscience

 

[Underdog9494]

Wasted 1 year of my life doing this shit 12hours/week after also being on a waiting-list for a year and filling in like 8 hours worth of in-person guided questionaires.

Hasn't helped me at all: The therapists keep changing my 'diagnosis', what my issues are. I don't feel like I am progressing in any way.
Then the therapists change every 6 months or so and u start all over again with some new woman who has no clue who you are.

One session they tell me I am too emotional during the session, the other session they tell me I have to be more emotional. It's a mess.

I keep getting rejected also, like if I get angry for what my parents did to me during 1 session due to triggered PTSD-flashbacks, and then they tell me I need to 'cooldown' and I am not welcome for a week JFL.
And now they kicked me out entirely for telling them I am sick of them changing their idea of what my issue is every other week as it just confuses me and it makes no sense to do that on an instant hunch anyways.

It's honestly suck a fucking shit-show. Mental health-care needs to be defunded. What a waste of taxpayer money (public insurance is paying for all this shit here).

I saw how much they declare and it's been tens of thousands of euros already in costs (free for me), but even for free this stuff has negative value to my life.

Therapy is only good for prescriptionsprescriptions

 

[Bewusst]

$

 

[Primalsplit]

I guess it's correlated in the sense that my parents rejected me as a kid so you try to fullfill some type of conditions to get parental love which is supposed to be unconditional. This obviously doesn't work since you were never going to be loved anyways, but as a kid I don't think you have much of a chance than trying to win your parents' love.
Add social-rejection from peers on top of that and the mental-torture is complete, destroying your brain due to internatilizing these events as stemming from your own inadequacy.

something like that probably. it cant be undone

Well, to be fair the whole trying to gain the love of parents shtick is just a way to not get abandoned by parents to ensure basic survival. You did succeed at that job already. You reached adulthood and you left your parents behind this time. So they sway no more power over your future either.

I used to believe in this coddling approach in therapy too. As if you didn't get a certain need met in childhood from parents, that you would go around the world half fulfilled at best all the time. But life can find different paths to fulfillment and bonding.

That feelings of unlovedness, was merely a feeling. Something of a product from an instinct. As painful as it may be, it was useful for those particular moments maybe (and this is arguable). Feelings, emotions are truly just hardware for your being to function in the world. Some therapetic approaches over glorify these feelings way out of proportion. Not only is it really a recipe for diasaster, it also can ensure you keep living the same feeling over and over.

There is nothing  deep about them. Trust me. Sometimes that wrenching feeling in your gut is just some gas stuck inside your bowels due to not drinking enough water. Sometimes that feeling of anger, agitation, an underlying panic and that sense of being wrongly persecuted by the world is just being hungry. Most of the times, going to therapy is not your solution; going to a restaurant is.

And for the times it is not just some physical reaction to some physical imbalance; it is better to plan, act and succeed. If you think you are starved of feeling unloved, just find something to do that will get you that feeling of being cherished. It is a common misconception that certain emotional holes can never be fulfilled. No they absolutely can. I have done it before and I did find everlasting peace, when I experienced ccertain things I lacked in my childhood.

But you can't  think your way into getting eased. Your brain has to see you actually living that thing. Thinking is only a tool to achieve that.

That's why I think coaching > therapy.

Men need to chase success. Otherwise, everything will feel empty.