Why libertarianism is the best (anti) political ideology you could support

[Klasik616]

"Libertarianism"
There are many types of libertarians,
This ideology is not either left or right, in fact adds elements of both political sides.
The main characteristic of libertarians is a believe against power over the law, which means a reduction from the power of the estate and organizations over people.

Libertarianism started with anarquism (left anarquists) Proudhon or Bakunin are examples. Both argued that communism was going to replace a system of domination from other "capitalism to communism", they thought humans could live in communities without being controled by a bigger organ like the estate, this is what right libertarians take from them.

About morality both right and left libertarians share the view that no human for any principles has the right to have power over other, they should live according to social contracts made by people and not before people like the philosophers from the french revolution thinked (Rousseau, Montesquieu, Kant) against the old social contract (Hobbes).

Libertarians do not believe humans have an essence, a meaning of life or naturality. They think whatever a society considers to be true and good for them has enough reason to be that way (the support of the people), no "morally superior being" can tell them what to do or believe because all humans have the same value.

Right libertarians appeared as a consequence of austrian economics, despite austrian economists like Schumpeter or Mises not being themselves "libertarians". Some examples are Rand, Hayek, Nozick, and other hippies.

The main problem with this ideology is that is confused by the actual economic system which is not free but rather controlled by a few group of rich people and jews, both left and right libertarians don't think it should be this way but there are exceptions.

Libertarians unlike right or left wingers do not hold principles over people, for example they don't want to teach LGBT+ or religion in schools but rather let kids find their own ideology later when they're old.

They support the market (commerce) for being an old system of trade where people decide a perceived value of a certain commodity based on the price only, one of the main problems of capitalism is the banking system that is controlling the goverment decisions and the pension systems. Apart from the monopolies which destroy competition. To be a libertarian you need to give away your conservative or progressive views.

@HarrierDuBois
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[Klasik616]

 

[looksmaxxed]

nah if it doesn't have a limiting effect on jews, trannies, faggots and other vectors of degeneracy, it's not a complete ideology. so far fascism seems to be the only good one after the failures of republicanism

 

[Klasik616]

nah if it doesn't have a limiting effect on jews, trannies, faggots and other vectors of degeneracy, it's not a complete ideology. so far fascism seems to be the only good one after the failures of republicanism

I support the right the most but making a war against the wokies is not gonna "eliminate them", the majority of people will decide in the end what's the best way to live. LGTB+ will always be a minority like all the other ones, it doesn't deserve more spotlight. The only ones who are trying to make them stand out more than they actually do are new left but I wouldn't "control" them.

 

[DarkTriadBeliever]

"Libertarianism"
There are many types of libertarians,
This ideology is not either left or right, in fact adds elements of both political sides.
The main characteristic of libertarians is a believe against power over the law, which means a reduction from the power of the estate and organizations over people.

Libertarianism started with anarquism (left anarquists) Proudhon or Bakunin are examples. Both argued that communism was going to replace a system of domination from other "capitalism to communism", they thought humans could live in communities without being controled by a bigger organ like the estate, this is what right libertarians take from them.

About morality both right and left libertarians share the view that no human for any principles has the right to have power over other, they should live according to social contracts made by people and not before people like the philosophers from the french revolution thinked (Rousseau, Montesquieu Kant) against the old social contract (Hobbes).

Libertarians do not believe humans have an essence, a meaning of life or naturality. They think whatever a society considers to be true and good for them has enough reason to be that way (the support of the people), no "morally superior being" can tell them what to do or believe because all humans have the same value.

Right libertarians appeared as a consequence of austrian economics, despite austrian economists like Schumpeter or Mises not being themselves "libertarians". Some examples are Rand (objectivism), Hayek, Nozick, and other hippies).

The main problem with this ideology is that is confused by the actual economic system which is not free but rather controlled by a few group of rich people and jews, both left and right libertarians don't think it should be this way but there are exceptions.

Libertarians unlike right or left wingers do not hold principles over people, for example they don't want to teach LGBT+ or religion in schools but rather let kids find their own ideology later when they're old.

alot of political ideologies have changed drastically since they were formed, but idc about any politics as long as I can watch anime a the end of the day

 

[Klasik616]

alot of political ideologies have changed drastically since they were formed, but idc about any politics as long as I can watch anime a the end of the day

So you should vote for libertarians, they don't want u to decide what to watch on TV based on a moral system. Elon Musk is a good example of this.

 

[Whatever]

I’m a libertarian and not religious and have been basically my whole life, Bakunin and Max Stirner are my favorite philosophers.

It’s not nearly as popular of an ideology with zoomers as it was with millennials 10-15 years ago. Zoomers want big government to fix society, they feel desperate for this so they embrace either fascism or communism and don’t question the means and authority of government or if it can even accomplish that. Less government is the solution now more than ever but most people aren’t gonna see this.

 

[Klasik616]

I’m a libertarian and not religious and have been basically my whole life, Bakunin and Max Stirner are my favorite philosophers.

It’s not nearly as popular of an ideology with zoomers as it was with millennials 10-15 years ago. Zoomers want big government to fix society, they feel desperate for this so they embrace either fascism or communism and don’t question the means and authority of government or if it can even accomplish that. Less government is the solution now more than ever but most people aren’t gonna see this.

It will always be a niche ideology because is not acting against other people, politics is what politicians do to create conflict (a battle). What fuels the left or right is conflict between people. The terms have changed, nowadays you don't see many communists around even the left has changed to a more democratic approach. The right has always been the same since the modern era, the right is the shadow of Rome.

 

[Klasik616]

I’m a libertarian and not religious and have been basically my whole life, Bakunin and Max Stirner are my favorite philosophers.

It’s not nearly as popular of an ideology with zoomers as it was with millennials 10-15 years ago. Zoomers want big government to fix society, they feel desperate for this so they embrace either fascism or communism and don’t question the means and authority of government or if it can even accomplish that. Less government is the solution now more than ever but most people aren’t gonna see this.

I see Stirner more alligned to a philosophy than a political ideology like Nietzsche. Makes sense why I see many people who has read him in this forum like @oldgymcel or @HarrierDuBois since inceldom is a state of being which consists of carrying yourself alone because of social rejection. Stirner is more like a pre-libertarian philosopher, Engels said he was pessimistic. Schopenhauer was also a failure in life but not academically.

 

[Whatever]

I see Stirner more alligned to a philosophy than a political ideology like Nietzsche. Makes sense why I see many people who has read him in this forum like @oldgymcel or @HarrierDuBois since inceldom is a state of being which consists of carrying yourself alone because of social rejection. Stirner is more like a pre-libertarian philosopher, Engels said he was pessimistic. Schopenhauer was also a failure in life but not academically.

I’d say that Stirner wasn’t talking so much about social rejection or isolation as he was freeing the mind by isolating the self from the externally placed “spooks of the mind” of government, religion, morality, etc. This for me was not some pessimistic gloomy thing, it was the total opposite, very liberating and grounding. Because ever since, I’ve known not to put too much trust or faith in anything external, I take everything with a grain of salt. But I’d definitely agree that this is “pre-libertarian” thought because it’s applying skepticism to governments and political movements.

So when Engels called him a pessimist, what he meant was that skepticism of government, and pessimism about his and Marx’s plans for revolution, which require a lot of faith and trust in government.