sadcel
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Introduction
It's a know fact that men suffer more that women in actual society, 70% of suicides being men.
In this thread, we will see why men have low self-esteem.
I also want to write this thread because of being someone who was bluepilled/redpilled before eventually being blackpilled; It makes me understand somehow why I had a low esteem while being bluepilled. Before getting my face rated seriously, due to brutal past experiences I thought I was a LTN or even worse.
Note : This thread may seem water to you, indeed some concepts we talk about here are water but the reasoning in the end isn't.
Content
Before we start, let's just say that most men are average in term of looks ( below or above average ), 1 in 2 is MTN .
In the other extreme sides of the bell curve are subhumans/LTN and HTN/chads (more rare)
This is very important because it implies statistically in terms of looks we are average for the majority of men.
Also greycels of this forum have this shitty and false idea that the average man is LTN.
Image : Bell curve
Image : The concept of Hypergamy
Hypergamy can be explained by the mathematical Pareto Principle : 80% of women going for the top %20 of men, The bottom 80% of men having to fight for 20% of bottom of women. These numbers are from the Pareto Principle, unfortunately reals numbers for dating may be more extreme.
Read this good blog post if you want to get documented more on this :
Bear in mind that the concept of hypergamy is only accepted among blackpill/incel related spaces. This will be important for the rest of the thread.
The real big problem is bluepilled normies mostly think it's an looksmatched lobby , so they try with average foids (not that ugly neither stacies).
You can guess what happens most of the time: It's a failure, they get rejected.
This is where it gets interesting,. Since they don't believe in the concept of hypergamy due to their ideology (Just shoot your shot bro, the worst she can say is no..) or didn't learn about it , the rate they give to themselves in term of looks decrease the more they get rejected by women of their look level...
"I am a 5/10 and asked out a 5/10, she rejected me while we are on the same looks level . I must be a 3/10 then ".
Women aiming for the top of men and rejecting perfectly average men who are unaware of the hypergamy make the later believe they're on the beginning of the bell curve (unattractive). When you think about it, there is no big difference between a subhuman and a LTN.
This result on these men getting mistakenly very low-esteem and posting on different subreddits such as :
r/FreeCompliments
r/amiugly
or any other subreddit just to get some compliments.
People here know for sure how all sub-chad men are invisible to women but a few talk about the psychological effects of this on the average bluepilled man plenty of hope.
TLDR; Most men have low self esteem because they see themselves in a more negative way than they really are . This because of foids selecting only in the top % of the males thus treating subhuman and average men the same.
Tagging the best : @Sloppyseconds @edodalic29 @takethewhitepill @Prøphet
It's a know fact that men suffer more that women in actual society, 70% of suicides being men.
In this thread, we will see why men have low self-esteem.
I also want to write this thread because of being someone who was bluepilled/redpilled before eventually being blackpilled; It makes me understand somehow why I had a low esteem while being bluepilled. Before getting my face rated seriously, due to brutal past experiences I thought I was a LTN or even worse.
Note : This thread may seem water to you, indeed some concepts we talk about here are water but the reasoning in the end isn't.
Content
Before we start, let's just say that most men are average in term of looks ( below or above average ), 1 in 2 is MTN .
In the other extreme sides of the bell curve are subhumans/LTN and HTN/chads (more rare)
This is very important because it implies statistically in terms of looks we are average for the majority of men.
Also greycels of this forum have this shitty and false idea that the average man is LTN.
Image : Bell curve
Image : The concept of Hypergamy
Hypergamy can be explained by the mathematical Pareto Principle : 80% of women going for the top %20 of men, The bottom 80% of men having to fight for 20% of bottom of women. These numbers are from the Pareto Principle, unfortunately reals numbers for dating may be more extreme.
Read this good blog post if you want to get documented more on this :
Bear in mind that the concept of hypergamy is only accepted among blackpill/incel related spaces. This will be important for the rest of the thread.
The real big problem is bluepilled normies mostly think it's an looksmatched lobby , so they try with average foids (not that ugly neither stacies).
You can guess what happens most of the time: It's a failure, they get rejected.
This is where it gets interesting,. Since they don't believe in the concept of hypergamy due to their ideology (Just shoot your shot bro, the worst she can say is no..) or didn't learn about it , the rate they give to themselves in term of looks decrease the more they get rejected by women of their look level...
"I am a 5/10 and asked out a 5/10, she rejected me while we are on the same looks level . I must be a 3/10 then ".
Women aiming for the top of men and rejecting perfectly average men who are unaware of the hypergamy make the later believe they're on the beginning of the bell curve (unattractive). When you think about it, there is no big difference between a subhuman and a LTN.
This result on these men getting mistakenly very low-esteem and posting on different subreddits such as :
r/FreeCompliments
r/amiugly
or any other subreddit just to get some compliments.
People here know for sure how all sub-chad men are invisible to women but a few talk about the psychological effects of this on the average bluepilled man plenty of hope.
TLDR; Most men have low self esteem because they see themselves in a more negative way than they really are . This because of foids selecting only in the top % of the males thus treating subhuman and average men the same.
Tagging the best : @Sloppyseconds @edodalic29 @takethewhitepill @Prøphet
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