Why "morals" don't exist

[user91295912954]

The concept of being a good person or a bad person are completely dependent on which socioeconomic factor you were born in

Imagine two people, one was born in a wealthy family had a perfect childhood and didn't ever do anything wrong

And one was born in a poor family with no support at all

Both of them want to live the same free, wealthy lifestyle.

One of them will have to do "bad things" to get to that level and the other one doesn't because he was already born into wealth, and doesn't have to worry about nothing in life

Now, does that make person 2 bad? Or is he not worthy of living a good and free from the slave system life just bc he was born poor, a thing that he didn't have a choice in to begin with.

It is easy to say you are a good person when all of the situations that life put you in didn't demand for you to be a "bad person" in exchange of getting what you want.

 

[The Fool]

Ts why i rape

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Bro did it


Also, no morals = subhumanity
Low empathy = sign of low genetical quality and a subhuman trait

 

[user91295912954]

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Bro did it


Also, no morals = subhumanity
Low empathy = sign of low genetical quality and a subhuman trait

having high empathy in ALL situations just means that you will be stepped on your whole life

do what it takes to get to the top, but of course, always help those in need and that didn't do anything wrong towards you

otherwise you will just be a Jew

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

just means that you will be stepped on your whole life

that's just a result of low emotional intelligence not high empathy

 

[JasGews69x]

Is it ok to have sex with a beef steak then eat it after ejaculating?

 

[Tenres]

This is a concept known as moral luck. This doesn't contradict morality because it merely obfuscates a person's fault for failing to fall in line with an objective moral standard. They could be at fault, totally, partial, and not at all, but that doesn't mean what they did isn't "bad" in the sense that it didn't align with an objective moral law.

Edit: And I am a moral relativist, but this argument avoids making the more obvious argument that moral standards can only be made in reference to a set of preferences, that would therefore depend on mental states that are relative.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

This is a concept known as moral luck. This doesn't contradict morality because it merely obfuscates a person's fault for failing to fall in line with an objective moral standard. They could be at fault, totally, partial, and not at all, but that doesn't mean what they did isn't "bad" in the sense that it didn't align with an objective moral law.

Edit: And I am a moral relativist, but this argument avoids making the more obvious argument that moral standards can only be made in reference to a set of preferences, that would therefore depend on mental states that are relative.

This is mcdonalds what can I get you

Err I'll have a Nothingburger with a side of fries

 

[user91295912954]

This is a concept known as moral luck. This doesn't contradict morality because it merely obfuscates a person's fault for failing to fall in line with an objective moral standard. They could be at fault, totally, partial, and not at all, but that doesn't mean what they did isn't "bad" in the sense that it didn't align with an objective moral law.

Edit: And I am a moral relativist, but this argument avoids making the more obvious argument that moral standards can only be made in reference to a set of preferences, that would therefore depend on mental states that are relative.

So your saying that if I was born poor for me to say I'm a high moral guy I should just stay poor for the rest of my life?

 

[lucifer88]

we all been knowing this, water thread, this fucking shit haves been discused like 10000000 times already

 

[Tenres]

So your saying that if I was born poor for me to say I'm a high moral guy I should just stay poor for the rest of my life?

I'm not saying anything as I literally said in my post.

You would be judged based on the either the consequences or behavior itself (utilitarianism and deontology). We've known forever that your environment and genetics can change your disposition to do """"bad""""" things. This isn't new and it really only contends with moral fault, not the existence morality itself.

 

[user91295912954]

I'm not saying anything as I literally said in my post.

You would be judged based on the either the consequences or behavior itself (utilitarianism and deontology). We've known forever that your environment and genetics can change your disposition to do """"bad""""" things. This isn't new and it really only contends with moral fault, not the existence morality itself.

I agree, are you an atheist?

 

[lucifer88]

bitch ass thread genuinely

 

[lucifer88]

faggot tread

 

[user91295912954]

bitch ass thread genuinely

Just writing my thoughts on things man.

 

[lucifer88]

Just writing my thoughts on things man.

i was talking about the other dudd u good hro

 

[Tenres]

I agree, are you an atheist?

Yeah, I'm not staunch about it though. To me, a 'god' is not that hard to believe but religions are comically ridiculous to me.

Edit: I'll say that I don't disagree with maximizing your self-interest. At least in the sense that whatever you do should be consistent with your will. But for me, my true desires are more about achieving self-governance / self-mastery, not just about fucking people over or destroying others. This might be necessary if people try to confront you, because they are ultimately trying to destroy your self-image (which, unless you are mentally ill, is going to be of a strong and capable person). Even if you are completely in the wrong, you should respond with the maximum amount of violence that is contextually justifiable. This is different, however, from seeking out fights or arguments.

Again, this is only for me but I think its a more coherent way of thinking about psychological development. Synthesizing all the different aspects of yourself through acceptance and governing yourself, such that as Plato envisions your rationality (but for me this is just your will, or true 'eternal' desires such as being content with yourself) is at the top, and your rationality and spirit rule your appetites.

 

[Tenres]

i was talking about the other dudd u good hro

I don't recall saying anything negative about you until you and your faggot friends tried to talk shit, so not sure why you're so salty. You came at me and missed because you're a double digit IQ drone. Hop off

 

[Samsepioler]

brutal assrape

 

[lucifer88]

I don't recall saying anything negative about you until you and your faggot friends tried to talk shit, so not sure why you're so salty. You came at me and missed because you're a double digit IQ drone. Hop off

dnr

 

[Tenres]

dnr

ggs nigger

 

[lucifer88]

ggs nigger

gg, lers have peace now, i cant have opps brocel, somwtimes we js gotta admit we say retarded shit and move on in life to be better in the future, deal?

 

[Tenres]

gg, lers have peace now, i cant have opps brocel, somwtimes we js gotta admit we say retarded shit and move on in life to be better in the future, deal?

Ok nigga. All love

 

[lucifer88]

Ok nigga. All love

thank u brocel new bro obtained, now im gonna bully with the forehead bonesmashing for life tho js so yk

 

[Tenres]

thank u brocel new bro obtained, now im gonna bully with the forehead bonesmashing for life tho js so yk

You after a year

 

[lucifer88]

You after a year
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i hope

 

[lucifer88]

not

 

[user91295912954]

Yeah, I'm not staunch about it though. To me, a 'god' is not that hard to believe but religions are comically ridiculous to me.

Edit: I'll say that I don't disagree with maximizing your self-interest. At least in the sense that whatever you do should be consistent with your will. But for me, my true desires are more about achieving self-governance / self-mastery, not just about fucking people over or destroying others. This might be necessary if people try to confront you, because they are ultimately trying to destroy your self-image (which, unless you are mentally ill, is going to be of a strong and capable person). Even if you are completely in the wrong, you should respond with the maximum amount of violence that is contextually justifiable. This is different, however, from seeking out fights or arguments.

Again, this is only for me but I think its a more coherent way of thinking about psychological development. Synthesizing all the different aspects of yourself through acceptance and governing yourself, such that as Plato envisions your rationality (but for me this is just your will, or true 'eternal' desires such as being content with yourself) is at the top, and your rationality and spirit rule your appetites.

I do not have any pleasure in fucking people over or say that they deserve it as many fellow angry at society rage filled niggas are

but in this society if you come from the bottom you have to fuck someone over eventually if you want to be minimally sucessfull,

so if you go by the morals book it is very hard to climb to the top,

eventually you will have to "corrupt" yourself, and that is unfair considering that there are tons of nepo baby's that have a perfect life and think they are superior because they didn't do any harm to others

 

[Tenres]

I do not have any pleasure in fucking people over or say that they deserve it as many fellow angry at society rage filled niggas are

but in this society if you come from the bottom you have to fuck someone over eventually if you want to be minimally sucessfull,

so if you go by the morals book it is very hard to climb to the top,

eventually you will have to "corrupt" yourself, and that is unfair considering that there are tons of nepo baby's that have a perfect life and think they are superior because they didn't do any harm to others

I agree completely. For your goals, you should be willing to hurt others. It's easier to do when you actually experience the failures of being selfless. This is actually something I had to learn when I was younger: to be as selfish as possible because selflessness is self-deprivation with no repayment.

About the rage filled niggas, my problem with them is after accepting morality is relative, they come up with their own rules (based on the opposite of normal morality) and act like anything else is being a slave. Generally we are wired to want to do good things to others (if they are 'good' people, I.e., help us) and there's nothing wrong with that.