Why most greys fuck up face ratings

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I think I’ll just get straight into it but the reason that most people fuck up face ratings is they don’t know how ratios interact with one another. I will give some examples

Vito Basso looks like he has ideal eye spacing yet has around 48-50% IPD


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Yet due to having an extremely long pfl it looks normal on him another example of this is lekass


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Yet people like face low iq will say he has unideal eye spacing when in fact they are quite ideal

Another thing is midface ratio, FWHR, and full facial height to width

For example David Gandy has a long midface but due to the fact of him having a wide FWHR it looks ideal
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And in most case this is actually preferred as it’s more dimorphic and striking

A final example I’m giving is cheekbone projection and hollow cheeks.

It’s basically impossible to get hollow cheeks if you don’t have projected cheekbones

That’s something that people like face iq will never understand and will cope with bucual fat removal instead of getting cheekbone implants that would give them much better results (even though he’s bloated and 15% bf this still applies)

Now I can’t be bothered to give anymore example but you can dm me if you want more

Now how does this affect your surgery?

well when getting surgery you need a more holistic view rather than just being focused on one aspect for example people with high IPD will generally benefit from a medial epicanthoplasty more than obo due to the fact of it increases pfl as well. Another example is people with long midface will benefit more from cheekbone implants or hairline lowering rather than trying to treat the midface directly

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@SlayerJonas @Orka @Volksstaffel @menas @Zagro
 
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I think I’ll just get straight into it but the reason that most people fuck up face ratings is they don’t know how ratios interact with one another. I will give some examples

Vito Basso looks like he has ideal eye spacing yet has around 48-50% IPD


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Yet due to having an extremely long pfl it looks normal on him another example of this is lekass


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Yet people like face low iq will say he has unideal eye spacing when in fact they are quite ideal

Another thing is midface ratio, FWHR, and full facial height to width

For example David Gandy has a long midface but due to the fact of him having a wide FWHR it looks ideal
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And in most case this is actually preferred as it’s more dimorphic and striking

A final example I’m giving is cheekbone projection and hollow cheeks.

It’s basically impossible to get hollow cheeks if you don’t have projected cheekbones

That’s something that people like face iq will never understand and will cope with bucual fat removal instead of getting cheekbone implants that would give them much better results (even though he’s bloated and 15% bf this still applies)

Now I can’t be bothered to give anymore example but you can dm me if you want more

Now how does this affect your surgery?

well when getting surgery you need a more holistic view rather than just being focused on one aspect for example people with high IPD will generally benefit from a medial epicanthoplasty more than obo due to the fact of it increases pfl as well. Another example is people with long midface will benefit more from cheekbone implants or hairline lowering rather than trying to treat the midface directly

Tagging some high iqcels

@SlayerJonas @Orka @Volksstaffel @menas @Zagro
“Saaaar Jordan Barret true Adam saaaar.”
 
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gonions width and chin to philtrum and this is the reason I think Clav will get botched, a chin to philtrum ideal ratio is about 1.5/2 maximum and gonions need to be narrow with a wide ramus to be aesthetic
 
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I think I’ll just get straight into it but the reason that most people fuck up face ratings is they don’t know how ratios interact with one another. I will give some examples

Vito Basso looks like he has ideal eye spacing yet has around 48-50% IPD


View attachment 4163732

Yet due to having an extremely long pfl it looks normal on him another example of this is lekass


View attachment 4163735

Yet people like face low iq will say he has unideal eye spacing when in fact they are quite ideal

Another thing is midface ratio, FWHR, and full facial height to width

For example David Gandy has a long midface but due to the fact of him having a wide FWHR it looks ideal
View attachment 4163744

And in most case this is actually preferred as it’s more dimorphic and striking

A final example I’m giving is cheekbone projection and hollow cheeks.

It’s basically impossible to get hollow cheeks if you don’t have projected cheekbones

That’s something that people like face iq will never understand and will cope with bucual fat removal instead of getting cheekbone implants that would give them much better results (even though he’s bloated and 15% bf this still applies)

Now I can’t be bothered to give anymore example but you can dm me if you want more

Now how does this affect your surgery?

well when getting surgery you need a more holistic view rather than just being focused on one aspect for example people with high IPD will generally benefit from a medial epicanthoplasty more than obo due to the fact of it increases pfl as well. Another example is people with long midface will benefit more from cheekbone implants or hairline lowering rather than trying to treat the midface directly

Tagging some high iqcels

@SlayerJonas @Orka @Volksstaffel @menas @Zagro
Interesting theory
 
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gonions width and chin to philtrum and this is the reason I think Clav will get botched, a chin to philtrum ideal ratio is about 1.5/2 maximum and gonions need to be narrow with a wide ramus to be aesthetic
 
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Esr is bs, your IPD will only look good at around 65mm, and your bizygomatic width usually looks good at 14.3cm. PFL has no affect on the perception of the eye spacing.

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I think I’ll just get straight into it but the reason that most people fuck up face ratings is they don’t know how ratios interact with one another. I will give some examples

Vito Basso looks like he has ideal eye spacing yet has around 48-50% IPD


View attachment 4163732

Yet due to having an extremely long pfl it looks normal on him another example of this is lekass


View attachment 4163735

Yet people like face low iq will say he has unideal eye spacing when in fact they are quite ideal

Another thing is midface ratio, FWHR, and full facial height to width

For example David Gandy has a long midface but due to the fact of him having a wide FWHR it looks ideal
View attachment 4163744

And in most case this is actually preferred as it’s more dimorphic and striking

A final example I’m giving is cheekbone projection and hollow cheeks.

It’s basically impossible to get hollow cheeks if you don’t have projected cheekbones

That’s something that people like face iq will never understand and will cope with bucual fat removal instead of getting cheekbone implants that would give them much better results (even though he’s bloated and 15% bf this still applies)

Now I can’t be bothered to give anymore example but you can dm me if you want more

Now how does this affect your surgery?

well when getting surgery you need a more holistic view rather than just being focused on one aspect for example people with high IPD will generally benefit from a medial epicanthoplasty more than obo due to the fact of it increases pfl as well. Another example is people with long midface will benefit more from cheekbone implants or hairline lowering rather than trying to treat the midface directly

Tagging some high iqcels

@SlayerJonas @Orka @Volksstaffel @menas @Zagro
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That’s something that people like face iq will never understand and will cope with bucual fat removal instead of getting cheekbone implants that would give them much better results (even though he’s bloated and 15% bf this still applies)
tbf this is not necessarily true

i have some of the most laterally projected zygos on the forum, that quite literally feel like implants when you touch them, but due to my still persistent baby fat, i still have no hollows, even at lower bf% (it’s kinda getting there but not even close to my goal look)

i will wait and cut a bit more, but if nothing happens by the time im 20-21, i’m probably getting buccal
 
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you can’t just measure this shit in mm for everyone’s skill size varies

imagine a 65mm ipd on barrett

same goes for bizygo.

every measurement has to harmonize on its own, proportional to skull size
funny enough his IPD is very close to 65mm

Skull size barely has an affect on how the IPD measurement is perceived
 
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funny enough his IPD is very close to 65mm

Skull size barely has an affect on how the IPD measurement is perceived
because its proportions are measured in ratios, not mm
 
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That’s so true I fucking hate greys anybody with a grey username should be executed
 
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because its proportions are measured in ratios, not mm
thats a psyop; our eyes measure each others features in mm, not in relation to other features

 
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thats a psyop; our eyes measure each others features in mm, not in relation to other features

well theres a reason why chads score high and ltns score low
 
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well theres a reason why chads score high and ltns score low
most of the time the raters themselves don't even know what the ratio means, don't use them as an authority.

if they did their research they would understand ratios dont matter, but they havent done 100s of hours of research, instead they average some retarded ratio and they think they've understood beauty. They are the most retarded, yet people believe them 🥀

Some ratios matter but it's mostly measurements that do
 
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most of the time the raters themselves don't even know what the ratio means, don't use them as an authority.

if they did their research they would understand ratios dont matter, but they havent done 100s of hours of research, instead they average some retarded ratio and they think they've understood beauty. They are the most retarded, yet people believe them 🥀

Some ratios matter but it's mostly measurements that do
i myself am a rater, so i know quite a lot about this

there has been a lot of extensive research done, and a lot of literature accumulated throughout the years.

this is where the ranges come from, as i pointed out before:
The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.
 
great thread. could u help me out bhai in the dms i have a couple questions
 

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