why not caring is the final pill and the only way to escape

[Deleted member 30411]

The male experience is to get cucked, you can't help just you have to accept it. Yes I have written posts about how normie women have professionmal athletes in their IG DMs. Women have all the power you CANNOT win against them no matter how GL you become

Good post, especially the part about women not acting rationally and very impulsively. If you got to see every good looking girls body count, like got to see the guy, you would be surprised how many mid tier guys even very good looking girls have hookup sex with. Sometimes being in the right place right time works

Can u send that post it’s hard digging up thx

 

[Deleted member 30411]

The text argues against focusing on looksmaxxing (improving one's appearance to attract women) for several reasons:

1. Infinite Options for Women: Women have many choices, making it impossible for men to be the best option. No matter how much a man improves himself, he will always be replaceable due to women's broader range of choices.

2. Relative Attractiveness: Improving looks only makes someone the best version of themselves, but not necessarily more attractive in a way that competes with others. Most men will remain "normies" and not stand out significantly.

3. Women's Selectivity: Women are more likely to choose partners based on subjective preferences and situational factors rather than objective attractiveness. Therefore, even less conventionally attractive men can be chosen if they fit a woman's immediate desires.

4. Changing Attitudes: The idea of impressing or being chivalrous towards women is outdated. Modern dating dynamics favor a more indifferent approach where men should not overly invest in impressing women but rather live their lives for themselves.

Ultimately, the author suggests men should focus on enjoying life, building friendships, and not stressing over trying to be the most attractive option for women.

What AI did u use to analyse the thread

 

[Deleted member 30411]

doesn’t drink

I thought all girls drink occasionally like socially or with dinner?

 

[SecularIslamist]

What AI did u use to analyse the thread

Chat GPT what else lol

 

[Deleted member 30411]

Chat GPT what else lol

Check my recent thread and comment ur opinikn Akhi

 

[k99]

incel is a meme, unless you are genuinely deformed or something being a 'incel' is usually being non nt or autistic. You can be LTN and social and slay in clubs etc. Anyone can looksmax a bit to MTN like legit anyone (unless deformed) and mtn is enough to slay in clubs if outgoing and social

can u post this deformed incel looking guy?

 

[pooplicker]

just don't care bro

 

[Aypo129]

A GOOD THREAD FROM @WishIwasChico???
Am I hallucinating or is the world coming to an end.

 

[jxck7468]

all the larping took its toll finally

 

[#551839piller]

Read every molecule bro and gotta disagree on this one. I'd have to make a thread myself to state my reasons tho, I agree with around 40% of what you've said (the necessity of being NT and social circlemaxxing).

The thing is you're focusing mostly on girls who are active asf on social media (over 50% of young women) and as bluepilled as it sounds there are girls out there who are not sluts and are not trying to get with jordans and chicos 24/7.

They do exist but if your statistics are women who use tinder, go to clubs and women who get caught "cheating" online (which is always staged as fuck nobody actually agrees without planning before to be recorded for a dumbass vid like that) then I see why you would think this way.

You'll mostly see what you look for aka If you search for shit you'll find it.

And I know you might have the need to call me a greycell and that I'm bluepilled but It's actually the opposite. I think a greycells view is as much important because I have yet to fuck up my thoughts via overdosing on blackpill and never tried to reinforce those theories and opinions by desperately searching for certain proofs.

Maybe I shouldn't have written this reply as I'm hella tired and made some grammatical or logical issues and it is pretty short. I haven't answered to every point of yours but I'd love to have this conversation in dms at a better time so maybe we can come to some conclusion.

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

i aint reading allat, happy for you or sorry that happened

 

[LeaveMaxx]

Will still do bimax tho

Same boat Bimax is law

 

[Greypiller]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a a

Clearpill is the only true answer

 

[WishIwasChico]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

This should be made botb why isn’t it

 

[laaltin]

jova

 

[WishIwasChico]

jova

Over for men in 2024 tbh

 

[Part-Time Chad]

I'm loving Islamic culture right about now, despite years of western brainwashing. Keeps foids in their place, where they fucking belong.

 

[Deleted member 15606]

I feel like this thread has a visceral truth behind it, looksmaxing is a joke, females are a joke, the take away here is that you shall never have an special girl, just fuck and dump easy whores

This is so fucking sad, this entire race shall be annihilated

 

[Deleted member 15606]

Read every molecule bro and gotta disagree on this one. I'd have to make a thread myself to state my reasons tho, I agree with around 40% of what you've said (the necessity of being NT and social circlemaxxing).

The thing is you're focusing mostly on girls who are active asf on social media (over 50% of young women) and as bluepilled as it sounds there are girls out there who are not sluts and are not trying to get with jordans and chicos 24/7.

They do exist but if your statistics are women who use tinder, go to clubs and women who get caught "cheating" online (which is always staged as fuck nobody actually agrees without planning before to be recorded for a dumbass vid like that) then I see why you would think this way.

You'll mostly see what you look for aka If you search for shit you'll find it.

And I know you might have the need to call me a greycell and that I'm bluepilled but It's actually the opposite. I think a greycells view is as much important because I have yet to fuck up my thoughts via overdosing on blackpill and never tried to reinforce those theories and opinions by desperately searching for certain proofs.

Maybe I shouldn't have written this reply as I'm hella tired and made some grammatical or logical issues and it is pretty short. I haven't answered to every point of yours but I'd love to have this conversation in dms at a better time so maybe we can come to some conclusion.

Hope you are onto something because this is the blackest pill of all, and I am an old user, what a devastating thread this is

 

[asdf1234]

Completely agree with how erratic women are; they'll talk a big talk about how no guy under 6'2 who makes $300000 a year is good enough for them but them reject the tall rich good looking guy only to hook up with a skinnyfat mtn with a fuckboy personality later that night lol.

Also completely agree that your focus should be on having good times with your friends, but speaking from experience it's harder reaching out to guys than to girls, at least popular guys. I have tons of hot sorority chicks following me on insta but can’t get a frat dude to follow me back for the life of me. Honestly that’s the real blackpill; female attention comes way easier, I’ll have girls striking up conversation with me wherever, following me back on instagram, and absolute worst case scenario there’s dating apps. There’s always the underlying pretence of looks when it comes to guys and girls interacting, so it’s always at least somewhat socially acceptable to strike conversation with a girl you don’t know. But how the fuck do you make friends with NT popular dudes if you’re not in the same environment as them day in day out? That’s the difficult thing

 

[asdf1234]

Read every molecule bro and gotta disagree on this one. I'd have to make a thread myself to state my reasons tho, I agree with around 40% of what you've said (the necessity of being NT and social circlemaxxing).

The thing is you're focusing mostly on girls who are active asf on social media (over 50% of young women) and as bluepilled as it sounds there are girls out there who are not sluts and are not trying to get with jordans and chicos 24/7.

They do exist but if your statistics are women who use tinder, go to clubs and women who get caught "cheating" online (which is always staged as fuck nobody actually agrees without planning before to be recorded for a dumbass vid like that) then I see why you would think this way.

You'll mostly see what you look for aka If you search for shit you'll find it.

And I know you might have the need to call me a greycell and that I'm bluepilled but It's actually the opposite. I think a greycells view is as much important because I have yet to fuck up my thoughts via overdosing on blackpill and never tried to reinforce those theories and opinions by desperately searching for certain proofs.

Maybe I shouldn't have written this reply as I'm hella tired and made some grammatical or logical issues and it is pretty short. I haven't answered to every point of yours but I'd love to have this conversation in dms at a better time so maybe we can come to some conclusion.

Maybe if you’re older you can look for women who don’t use social media. Also maybe if you’re in Europe, I’ve noticed people don’t use social media as much over there. But if you live in North America and in your teens or 20s I feel like looking for girls who don’t use social media isn’t a viable option. I mean, do you truly not care about a girls status at all? Because 99% of girls here who don’t have an instagram are some combination of poor, ugly and autistic lol.

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

Who hurts you?



But yeah on the serious note thanks for writing this

 

[AustinCutler]

Brutal blackpil… did not read tho

 

[Pakicel]

I'm loving Islamic culture right about now, despite years of western brainwashing. Keeps foids in their place, where they fucking belong.

Islamic culture has allowed far too many truecels to breed and ruin so many great lineages. It’s not the solution. We need some combination of eugenics and monogamy to keep the subhumanity at bay and maintain a stable society.

 

[ferbite666]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

There’s some good points made here but I’m currently a skinny mtn with Chadlite bones and I’m 5’10 (6’0 w af1s and lifts) and I don’t get anything at the club/bar despite having decent game. I’ll get a few numbers but they never text back the next day. And most of the numbers I get are from LTBs. And sure could I bed these chicks if I didn’t leave the club so early and tried gaming them the whole time? Maybe. But still club/bar is mostly fucked for sub7 men. College parties are a bit better but you still can’t be sub6 and do well unless you are NT, extroverted, witty, etc

 

[PSL Accuracy]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

 

[WishIwasChico]

There’s some good points made here but I’m currently a skinny mtn with Chadlite bones and I’m 5’10 (6’0 w af1s and lifts) and I don’t get anything at the club/bar despite having decent game. I’ll get a few numbers but they never text back the next day. And most of the numbers I get are from LTBs. And sure could I bed these chicks if I didn’t leave the club so early and tried gaming them the whole time? Maybe. But still club/bar is mostly fucked for sub7 men. College parties are a bit better but you still can’t be sub6 and do well unless you are NT, extroverted, witty, etc

True tbh

 

[lebronjames23]

great thread tbh

taking women seriously is legitimately retarded

doing whatever u want w girls and having a close knit friend group with true mates and making money to do whatever the fuck u want is what it’s about

 

[WishIwasChico]

great thread tbh

taking women seriously is legitimately retarded

doing whatever u want w girls and having a close knit friend group with true mates and making money to do whatever the fuck u want is what it’s about

Mirin bro you moggg hope things are good for you

 

[okwiwhd]

The male experience is to get cucked, you can't help just you have to accept it. Yes I have written posts about how normie women have professionmal athletes in their IG DMs. Women have all the power you CANNOT win against them no matter how GL you become

Good post, especially the part about women not acting rationally and very impulsively. If you got to see every good looking girls body count, like got to see the guy, you would be surprised how many mid tier guys even very good looking girls have hookup sex with. Sometimes being in the right place right time works

Become a homo theory.

 

[King Solomon]

I'm a VINCEL now and agree with this message. Relationships are worthless outside of a Chirstian Patriarchy like the Amish (99% marriage success rates). Also, sex outside of the reason for having children is pure degeneracy therefore wasting your seed, life, time, energy pumping and dumping is only going to have a long term negative effect on your physical and spiritual life. This might be the most difficult things for the people who were born into this society in this fallen state.

If this qas the 1800s or early 1900s in America or if I currently livide inside a Christian Patriarchy then I'd consider a life long partnership. If I was a sexual degenerate and didn't care about my afterlife or didn't believe in the afterlife then I'd probably be pumping and dumping every single day. I currently see not one long term benefit of these 2 options, only major risks and negative side effects.

Society is crumbling and is only going to get worse from here until the second coming.

 

[copamine]

Seems high iq, will read later

 

[Zenis]

I miss the times where we believed chad could just walk outside and get a blowjob

Used to belive girls would line up to suck chads dick when he walked outside

 

[edodalic29]

Used to belive girls would line up to suck chads dick when he walked outside

Im still gonna hold onto that theory
The actual fantasy is finding a good women to ltr

 

[FacialStructure404]

The male experience is to get cucked, you can't help just you have to accept it. Yes I have written posts about how normie women have professionmal athletes in their IG DMs. Women have all the power you CANNOT win against them no matter how GL you become

Good post, especially the part about women not acting rationally and very impulsively. If you got to see every good looking girls body count, like got to see the guy, you would be surprised how many mid tier guys even very good looking girls have hookup sex with. Sometimes being in the right place right time works

“They’re impulsive broooo” they how come non of them approach if they’re just in the moment and impulsive? This is a whole lotta coping from you fellas.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Then you start caring about not caring.

 

[Deleted member 77954]

Based asf

 

[Deleted member 86473]

Yea been saying this man.....
I didn't join this forum to looksmax, but just to connect with like minded individuals and stuff.
You are either blessed with good genetics, or not, simple as that.
I think softmaxxing hardly helps, and surgery only helps to CORRECT flaws you have.
For example:
Big ears, upper/under Lip uneven, big nose etc.

 

[Pikabro]

U had ur fun then came to this conclusion meanwhile incels never got to get some and are expected to just give up and not care.

 

[Acion]

This is basically Buddhism

 

[Lord Shadow]

This is why being NT and personality is what matters the more imo, as you said they have literally unlimited options and ur not Vinnie hacker. Most people can reach the looks barrier minimum though and after that is just compatibility and connection

 

[Lord Shadow]

There's a reason why there's more non-NT people here than there are actual sub5s

 

[Stuttercel]

This 'got to mog' etc. will leave you ruined and living a miserable life and here's why.

1.

You will never ever be the 'best' guy she will have access to in her life. EVER. You can spend your life saving for surgeries, mewing 24/7 doing all these crazy fucking looksmaxxing. You can roid like me, you can buy an expensive car like me, you can grind hard for a good career, you do all these things and guess what? It won't mean shit. Why?

WOMEN HAVE INFINITE OPTIONS NOW. You can be 6'2, htn, ripped, very good job, own place even and guess what? An mtb who's never hit the gym, who doesn't drive, who doesn't even work. FUCK SHE COULD EVEN BE A SINGLE MUM. And you know what she will do when she sees you? Go 'meh'.

Your logic will say 'wtf i mog her in everyway' but that's only objectively. In fact, it does not matter. You may mog her by 3 points in every way, but you'll NEVER have the options she has. The person with the most options always holds the power because she can leave you on the spot for someone else. Can you do this? Can most guys? No.

Imagine you was fat and looksminned but you opened tinder and had terra dms and likes of good looking women. Suddenly you won't give a shit about them. Everything is relative, NOT OBJECTIVE. which is where the thinking here is flawed.


There is no real looksmaxxing. You are either chad or you're not. Looksmaxxing will just make you the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF. That is it. you are locked in your attractiveness rating though objectively. If you are mtn then you can looksmax to max htn. It is an incel fantasy to believe this unless you have like a major falio like a deformed nose that can be fixed that you can ascend to chad.

Legit looksmaxxing is mainstream now and 99% of normies will not ever be chad. Why is that then?

It;'s like Pneumo with his looksmax guides jfl he looks the same when he was younger. He always had a good-looking face, all that's changed is he whitened his teeth and took some potassium. Yet retards i've seen calling him an inspiration for his advice lmao (he is a good user though I like him)

I promise you you will ruin your life if you just focus on mogging etc. You will never mog most people, most people reading this (99% of guys) will be locked into the 'normie' bracket. This means you will never ever truly stand out and you will always be replaceable to 99% of women.

Most guys that slay do not slay due to their 'insane looks' they slay because they are NT and have high social proof, a dominant extrovert personality or live in a good location.

If you are social in uni and are mtn and go out a lot you will slay lol it's not some magic thing. Most girls in uni will go out on the weekend and fuck random girls because 'that's what you're supposed to do at uni' and all their friends are doing it. It has nothing to do with you mogging and she'll probs would never date you seriously.

Just remember when you do ascend and get a girlfriend she is literally one swipe away from guys that are HTN doctors, guys that have way better things than you.

Many people are quick to point out 'look at that curry subhuman with that hot girlfriend' well that will happen to you(especially if you ltr a hot girl) there will be guys that mog you looking at you like 'why is she with him' guys that destroy you in every way. She will get iois everywhere etc. Aand your blackpill brain will make you so insecure you will be finished.

Remember if a girl is 'hot' or above average 99% of guys will want to fuck her including guys with big Instagram followings, guys that are very good looking. Now do you see how stupid you are focusing on women etc.?

Women are hard wired to go for the best. It is why relationships are becoming a thing of the past. It is not that she may not really like you, it is simply because she is getting dms weekly from guys that are better than you. And all it takes is you to slip once and she will one day reply and you are finished.

Most girls cheat now. Look at those tiktoks of 'swap phones' IT IS ALWAYS THE GIRL THAT GETS CAUGHT CHEATING OR WON'T SHARE HER PHONE. IT IS NEVER THE GUY.

GIRLS 100% CHEAT WAY MORE THAN MEN NOW DUE TO HOW MANY OPTIONS THEY HAVE. It is just human nature. Imagine you had a htb girlfriend and you could go on tinder and get terra htbs which were different to her which made them more exciting. It would be extremely hard not to cheat. Or you went to the club and had htbs hitting on you while you was drunk.

Atp you don't really place as much value on the relationship. Why? because the girl you're with would be something that is replaceable. So what if you cheat tbh and she finds out, you can just replace her anyways. WOMEN ALWAYS WIN.

Men just want a nice girl to love as they are fucked now. Women don't give a shit now.

2. ANOTHER LOGICAL FALLACY IS GOING FOR GIRLS THAT YOU FIND UNATTRACTIVE THINKING THEY WILL BE EASIER. NEVER DO THIS LIKE EVER.

This is also why looksmax etc will ruin you. Your logic is mog x or mog y so i can get x or y easy. NO. A landwhale still have infinite options on dating apps etc. Don't believe me? run one yourself in a city and you will see how unimportant you are to even an utter landwhale.

Only go for girls you find attractive. They are literally just as 'easy' (use that lightly) as uglier girls. If you're a girls type or she finds you hot it doesn't matter if she's stacy or ltb she will still want to fuck you. It's why you see ltn's fucking htb+ women because the htb woman sees something in that guy (maybe niche appeal etc.).

If a women is ltb and you are htn and she finds you attractive she will reject, it doesn't matter if you mog her objectively. Meanwhile if a stacylite finds you attractive and you're mtn then you can fuck her even if your PSL rotter mind says that is not possible.

This is one of the biggest problems with this site. This whole objective rating bullshit stops you from banging actual hot women because you think everything is defined by a fucking looks scale. It's why you should not care about this shit and just go for girls you find hot.

3. Women just fuck who they want to they don't give a shit. Slut shaming is a thing of the past.

You can believe all you want that the average women has a body count of 7 or whatever. You really believe that girls that are in uni partying every weekend etc. on tinder have body counts of 7?
Most girls are utterly ran thru now. And the ones that aren't got into an ltr at an early age and you will not have access to them.

All that mogging and surgery just to get a ran thru girl that probs got banged when she was drunk and horny by curry ltns due to right place, right time.


Women are impulsive in nature. They do not think logically at all like men do. They act on pure emotion and impulsiveness. It's why you right place, right time destroys mogging (unless you're subhuman).

Anyone who has used tinder etc. knows that unless you act fast and be forward you will not meet the girl and get ghosted. Again, they have infinite options, if you manage to slay a girl you were just right time, right place. If you believe it was because you mogged all her other options and matches etc you are utterly fucking stupid and narcy.

You can be chadlite but if she's not in the mood, good luck to you bro. Or if she's in that 'not a hoe phase' then she will try to make you wait even if you mog while she fucked ltns in her hoe phase within 5 minutes.

Again, women have no logic.


4. Never ever care about trying to be nice to women or impress them

The toughest one. You have to see all women the same i.e. they are irrational whores basically. This is where not caring unironically works in your favour. If you clown for a girl she will never ever fuck you she will be like 'awww so sweet' and just use you. Tell that bitch whether on tinder, in the club or instagram 'come over and fuck' give them no more respect. They don't deserve your respect. If they say no or reject who cares lol they are legit just another whore.

Mfers on here will read all blackpill then go message girls on tinder 'hey beautiful lets go on a date?'


Like don't ever. Do not give a shit about whores lol, they are just something to fuck and quit. If it ends up she becomes obsessed with you then you can fuck her more. But never care. Chivalry is dead in 2024.


Finally,

just enjoy and live your life. You don't need to be chad. You don't need to be some doctor. As doing all this will burn you as you'll never be the best option to her.

What you need to do is just live your life. Find some bros that you can have mogger times with. Do what you want, don't give a fuck what whores think and never treat them nice. You are living your life.


All this looksmaxxing etc fucks you because you do it (deep down) for women and by doing so always will feel inferior and not good enough i.e. 'if i only i just mogged more' 'i just need rhino and LL and then i'll ascend and approach and live my life'. Tbh you will never be good enough to the average slag nowadays due to their options but that's why you just shouldn't care at all. SO what just fuck her and then if she leaves, who gives a fuck.

So much cope in this post it's not even funny. Also u gave the DNRcels a run for their money XD jfl

 

[Stuttercel]

what whitepill bro? OP is a slayer, he has no point, not really. It's all surface level when you truly think about it, to an incel who doesn't even want to look in the mirror because of how ugly he is, all of this is complete and utter nonsense, nobody on .is would give this a second thought and rightfully so. It's just the ramblings of a young man who has a different opinion every other day. Who is the target audience for this thread? it certainly isn't incels, it certainly isn't most of the forums userbase which is teenagers, who is he speaking to? nobody except maybe a few guys who are GL and still under the delusion that slaying/mogging is all there is to life. Whereas to the incel, simply looking good enough is the only thing he wishes for. Truly another shit thread now that i've actually gone through it.

Finally fount a non fakecel ass reply in this cope thread jfl

 

[_MVP_]

high iq thread.

bookmarked it

 

[_MVP_]

@paladincel_
@Veganist
@deadstock
@LancasteR
@TheLookInYourEyes

 

[LancasteR]

@paladincel_
@Veganist
@deadstock
@LancasteR
@TheLookInYourEyes

This post is so good that I‘ve already read and liked it a few months ago when it came out.
Never force yourself, 70% of the time it will fail.

 

[Deleted member 85052]

Mogger thread. I needed this. Thanks, OP.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Completely agree with how erratic women are; they'll talk a big talk about how no guy under 6'2 who makes $300000 a year is good enough for them but them reject the tall rich good looking guy only to hook up with a skinnyfat mtn with a fuckboy personality later that night lol.

I've seen this many times also. Women are irrational and impulsive, who act on pure emotion usually.

 

[WishIwasChico]

There's a reason why there's more non-NT people here than there are actual sub5s

This is why being NT and personality is what matters the more imo, as you said they have literally unlimited options and ur not Vinnie hacker. Most people can reach the looks barrier minimum though and after that is just compatibility and connection

I agree completely with this. Most people here are mainly non nt, not deformed, hideous or terra ugly.