Why Orc cannot be a mod

[Orc]

They don't know what they're born as. Thats why they push to change official documents,

they're targets of hate crimes if they don't, being publicly outed as trans puts a target on your forehead.

demand language shifts from everyone else, and frame any disagreement as transphobia

no one does this besides wokies who no one takes seriously.

They can look more feminine, but then reframe that as an actual identity that must be affirmed by everyone else, it goes beyond personal body modification and into compelled social participation.

they're not demanding anyone to do anything, if they aren't gendered properly then they'll just have to make more effort to pass, that is reality.

Never ask a trannie what a woman is or they'll have a panic attack

I already told you several times that this is some weird assumption based on your fringe alt right podcasts, no one actually has any issues with this.

You’re literally trying to compare someone getting jaw implants to look more angular with someone taking hormones, removing healthy organs, and reconstructing their genitals

there is no difference, and those organs do not remain healthy when you're on hormones, hence why they're removed, they atrophy and cause abdominal pains, they're not removed for the hell of it.

That's not even just to look, but to be perceived as a different sex entirely. That’s not a cosmetic change, that’s an identity overhaul.

your entire body is cosmetic.

One is grounded in recognizing a flaw and trying to fix it. The other is grounded in believing that inner feelings should dictate external biological reality and social recognition, which is exactly where the logic breaks down.

your inner feelings dictate what you're comfortable looking like.

Canada – Bill C-16
United Kingdom – Equality Act 2010

Language policing, pronoun mandates, and legal threats to institutions that don’t comply. The entire debate is based on the demand for others to validate a subjective identity as objective truth.

these are general protections from hate crimes, institutions will still refuse to call you by what you've registered based on former registries, every time that happens there's misconceptions and possible complications.

"alt right"

You don’t need a podcast to notice when ideology overrides biology.

you're too low iq to notice anything on your own I fear.

they're often based in unreality though, the best solution is often not to get surgery but explore other avenues

most trans people aren't having surgery, they're on hormones that correspond with their identity and it costs next to nothing and prevents them from dying.

, most people are too retarded to realize what their flaw is and fix it appropriately,

body dysmorphia makes you unable to see your body in a realistic manner, that is how the disorder works.

and even those who are high IQ enough often just require a bit of softmaxxing to achieve the look they want. The looksmaxxing channel guy on youtube botched himself when he could have just lost weight and achieved some results rather than wasting megabucks and looking like shit.

if he's paying for it what do you care, these surgeries aren't covered by insurance, people should legally be allowed to botch themselves.

 

[yue]

body dysmorphia makes you unable to see your body in a realistic manner, that is how the disorder works.

Yea but the fix is usually something simple like STOP ROTTING ON INTERNET ECHOCHAMBERS. It's like saying ADHD is genetic when the kid is watching tiktok 8 hours a day.

most trans people aren't having surgery, they're on hormones that correspond with their identity and it costs next to nothing and prevents them from dying.

Same thing, you're fucking yourself up for no reason, injecting estrogen in yourself is going to give you cancer and heart disease.

if he's paying for it what do you care, these surgeries aren't covered by insurance, people should legally be allowed to botch themselves.

>Why should you care that they're destroying themselves,
jeez idk

 

[Orc]

Yea but the fix is usually something simple like STOP ROTTING ON INTERNET ECHOCHAMBERS. It's like saying ADHD is genetic when the kid is watching tiktok 8 hours a day.

most of these conditions are genetic, if they can overcome it by transitioning then it's no different from treating any other disorder with medication.

Same thing, you're fucking yourself up for no reason, injecting estrogen in yourself is going to give you cancer and heart disease.

if you think dysphoria isn't a valid reason you've never experienced it, it kills you from the inside, living as a botched homunculus is preferable, it's like taking the meds away from people with schizophrenia, they literally cannot live.

>Why should you care that they're destroying themselves,
jeez idk

we don't give a shit if people drink alcohol, why give a shit when they're getting surgery.

 

[TiktokUser]

they're targets of hate crimes if they don't, being publicly outed as trans puts a target on your forehead.

no one does this besides wokies who no one takes seriously.

they're not demanding anyone to do anything, if they aren't gendered properly then they'll just have to make more effort to pass, that is reality.

there is no difference, and those organs do not remain healthy when you're on hormones, hence why they're removed, they atrophy and cause abdominal pains, they're not removed for the hell of it.

God you sound like the average redditor faggot. Just vagueness after vagueness

You keep insisting this isn't something anyone is being asked to conform to, when that can't be further from the truth. Speech laws to policy shifts in schools and prisons. Indoctrinated into the media, the books, the education. This ideology is backed by "wokies," and institutions.

“muh organs aren’t healthy on hormones ”
JFL that’s a literal consequence of medically induced dysfunction these retards do. If you take drugs that make your organs stop working properly, and then justify removing them because they’re no longer functional, that’s circular logic (just like how trannies define what a man/woman is)
The hormones caused the problem. That’s not treating a disease, that’s engineering a new one. Big Pharma benefits so much from these mentally ill lunatics

your entire body is cosmetic.

your inner feelings dictate what you're comfortable looking like.

these are general protections from hate crimes, institutions will still refuse to call you by what you've registered based on former registries, every time that happens there's misconceptions and possible complications.

you're too low iq to notice anything on your own I fear.

If your entire body is cosmetic, then so is sex, race, height, and age, and yet we all know those things matter biologically and socially. Your feelings don’t dictate objective reality. They dictate how you feel, and you’re free to feel however you want. Demanding others agree with your subjective self perception is retardation.

I already told you several times that this is some weird assumption based on your fringe alt right podcasts, no one actually has any issues with this.

what is a woman then? You said eariler that, "muh they've got a very clear view of what a woman is, because that's what their goal is "

Then what exactly is that? If you reject the biological definition, adult human female who has large gametes, then what is your definition? Because stereotypical gender roles or "femininity" is not womanhood. Anyone then could be a woman based purely on those arbitrary standards that are MEANINGLESS.

 

[Orc]

God you sound like the average redditor faggot. Just vagueness after vagueness

You keep insisting this isn't something anyone is being asked to conform to, when that can't be further from the truth. Speech laws to policy shifts in schools and prisons. Indoctrinated into the media, the books, the education. This ideology is backed by "wokies," and institutions.

nobody at any point has ever asked you to conform to trans people besides allowing them to transition.

these speech laws are literally the same anti hate crime/speech laws that are applicable to you.

“muh organs aren’t healthy on hormones ”
JFL that’s a literal consequence of medically induced dysfunction these retards do. If you take drugs that make your organs stop working properly, and then justify removing them because they’re no longer functional, that’s circular logic (just like how trannies define what a man/woman is)
The hormones caused the problem. That’s not treating a disease, that’s engineering a new one. Big Pharma benefits so much from these mentally ill lunatics

without the hormones they're still unhealthy, gender dysphoria is a mental health condition, it does not go away if they're not allowed to transition, they literally kill themselves and then none of their organs function if they're not allowed to do this.

If your entire body is cosmetic, then so is sex, race, height, and age, and yet we all know those things matter biologically and socially. Your feelings don’t dictate objective reality. They dictate how you feel, and you’re free to feel however you want. Demanding others agree with your subjective self perception is retardation

you're judged based on what you currently look like, not as what you're born as, that's the same for everyone.

they're not demanding you to agree because of what they tell you, all they ask is that you don't refer them as something they're clearly not when they're indistinguishable.

what is a woman then? You said eariler that, "muh they've got a very clear view of what a woman is, because that's what their goal is "

if it looks like, sounds like, and acts like a woman then it's a woman.

Then what exactly is that? If you reject the biological definition, adult human female who has large gametes, then what is your definition? Because stereotypical gender roles or "femininity" is not womanhood. Anyone then could be a woman based purely on those arbitrary standards that are MEANINGLESS.

the biological definition is irrelevant because no one's able to see your chromosomes.

the reality is that your gender isn't based on your dna, it's based on people their perception of you, it doesn't matter what you were born as if they cannot distinguish you, and if they're allowed to transition early then you generally cannot.

 

[TiktokUser]

nobody at any point has ever asked you to conform to trans people besides allowing them to transition.

without the hormones they're still unhealthy, gender dysphoria is a mental health condition, it does not go away if they're not allowed to transition, they literally kill themselves and then none of their organs function if they're not allowed to do this.

you're judged based on what you currently look like, not as what you're born as, that's the same for everyone.

they're not demanding you to agree because of what they tell you, all they ask is that you don't refer them as something they're clearly not when they're indistinguishable.

if it looks like, sounds like, and acts like a woman then it's a woman.

JFL at this reasoning


If someone has to "look like, sound like, and act like a woman," to be seen as one, you’ve just admitted that being a woman does depend on external standards. And those standards are based on sex based stereotypes, not identity. You're reducing “womanhood” to how convincing someone’s presentation is?

If a man looked like, sounded like, and acted like a woman, but still claimed to be a man is he now a woman?

the biological definition is irrelevant because no one's able to see your chromosomes.

the reality is that your gender isn't based on your dna, it's based on people their perception of you, it doesn't matter what you were born as if they cannot distinguish you, and if they're allowed to transition early then you generally cannot.

By using this same logic. No one can see someone’s citizenship either so should we erase borders too? Just because something isn’t visible doesn’t mean it’s not there. Sex exists in every cell of your body. You can’t opt out of it because it makes you uncomfortable.

these speech laws are literally the same anti hate crime/speech laws that are applicable to you.

hate crime laws are not “just the same” as compelled speech. Hate crimes punish actions based on intent to harm. Compelled speech laws punish people for refusing to say things they don’t believe. If I protested that transgender women aren't women out on the street in the UK or Canada I would be arrested

"muh people will die if they’re not allowed to transition "

Alcholics: GIVE ME ANOTHER BEER OR I’ll KILL MYSELF
BIID retards: AMPUTATE MY LEG OR I'LL KILL MYSELF

same logic

 

[Sonneillon]

 

[Orc]

You're reducing “womanhood” to how convincing someone’s presentation is?

yes?

If a man looked like, sounded like, and acted like a woman, but still claimed to be a man is he now a woman?

if you cannot realistically present yourself as a gender then you are not that gender.

By using this same logic. No one can see someone’s citizenship either so should we erase borders too? Just because something isn’t visible doesn’t mean it’s not there. Sex exists in every cell of your body. You can’t opt out of it because it makes you uncomfortable.

we already do that, european citizens are free to travel eachothers countries.

your gender is just your presentation.

hate crime laws are not “just the same” as compelled speech. Hate crimes punish actions based on intent to harm. Compelled speech laws punish people for refusing to say things they don’t believe. If I protested that transgender women aren't women out on the street in the UK or Canada I would be arrested

you cause them harm by doing that, you might as well be yelling slurs at them.

"muh people will die if they’re not allowed to transition "

Alcholics: GIVE ME ANOTHER BEER OR I’ll KILL MYSELF
BIID retards: AMPUTATE MY LEG OR I'LL KILL MYSELF

same logic

we literally give crack addicts their fix because they'll kill themselves if they don't.

 

[TiktokUser]

yes?

if you cannot realistically present yourself as a gender then you are not that gender.

we already do that, european citizens are free to travel eachothers countries.

your gender is just your presentation.

you cause them harm by doing that.


we literally give crack addicts their fix because they'll kill themselves if they don't.

so you'd rather think gender is about how you look, and not about biology

what about all the trannie retards who still look like an obese man but with just larger tits

 

[Orc]

so you'd rather think gender is about how you look, and not about biology

why would your biology matter? they can't see inside of your pants or body.

gender has always only been your presentation.

I would not be considered male if you looked inside my body, but would you argue that I am not a man?

what about all the trannie retards who still look like an obese man with just larger tits

they are mentally ill men with autogynephilia.

 

[TiktokUser]

I would not be considered male if you looked inside my body, but would you argue that I am not a man?

orc is a tranny confirmed

 

[Orc]

orc is a tranny confirmed

I'm intersex, I've got a functioning dick.

even biology is not that binary.

 

[yue]

I would not be considered male if you looked inside my body, but would you argue that I am not a man?

Do you get periods?