Why PSL ratings are awfully pointless

[DrTony]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

 

[Warlow]

words falling on deaf ears, the cycle will continue

 

[BigBoy]

tfw women dont even look at you

 

[one job away]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

Flawed in so many ways. Looks are looks and laycount is laycount. You could have bdd. You could be aspie. You could not care for slaying. You could have other mental issues.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

Not a very good take my dude. You are right that women treatment irl is your real rating, but precision is always useful. Some people (especially guys who are browsing this forum) are bad with body language and can't always recognize women treatment. Also, anyone even slightly above average might get IOI's very occasionally from women, but that doesn't mean they are Chad. Sorry bud, just because you got approached once in your 20 years of life doesn't mean you are Henry Cavill. Another problem, a sub5 person isn't always repulsive. A cutecel framelet might be sub5, but they might not know it because they won't get looks of disgust like a typical ugly person would. The world isn't black and white in these three categories.

 

[DesperadoRatado]

could have been a good thread if u didnt bring up laycount bullshit. do you have ANY critical thinking?

psl is shit because nobody uses it correctly and everybody has their own perception of it. this site should implement a real system which people can follow and rate by.

 

[DrTony]

Flawed in so many ways. Looks are looks and laycount is laycount. You could have bdd. You could be aspie. You could not care for slaying. You could have other mental issues.

How is it flawed?

Looks rating is determined by real life outcomes with women. Most normies get 2-3 hook ups a year with massive month-long dry spells and thats with social circles/OLD etc. Each point in lookscale you go up, your mating opportunities grow exponentially (a 6 has 10x more mating opportunities than a 5 etc, a 7 has 10x more than a 6 or 100x more than a 7 etc).

BDD is extremely rare as a condition. Most people who think have it are actually insecure about legitimate flaws they have. Asperger's also extremely rare. Most people who think have asperger's are just socially anxious because they have legitimately have low looks/status value in social gatherings.

In any case, PSL ratings by other men is highly flawed. It is also irrelevant if it doesn't translate to real life outcomes which is what everyone cares about in the end.

 

[grimy]

Ironically so many users here look better than me and are supposed virgins while I have above 10 lay count. The average man isn't gl and still gets LTR, while literal chadlites are on here theorizing. I am convinced that most dudes on here just want to mog other men and not actually get laid. Either that, or they aren't willing to lower than standards.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Ironically so many users here look better than me and are supposed virgins while I have above 10 lay count. The average man isn't gl and still gets LTR, while literal chadlites are on here theorizing. I am convinced that most dudes on here just want to mog other men and not actually get laid. Either that, or they aren't willing to lower than standards.

The state of my life @gamma

 

[grimy]

The state of my life @gamma

Over for us 3 norwooders

 

[Cigarette]

hoe will fuck you because shes just horny difference is when she picks you over her boyfriend because of your looks

 

[eduardkoopman]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

Being normie is looks level that is most confusing. irl.

 

[Deleted member 11388]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

Considering my number of slays and quality of them i think of myself as 8-8.5
even tho i got rated here as htn mostly + 4.5/5 psl.

But i am investing consistent effort to get laid and improve compared to most people here who just post pictures, get 2 selfies put them on tinder and get rejected XDXDXD

 

[Deleted member 13945]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

Considering my number of slays and quality of them i think of myself as 8-8.5
even tho i got rated here as htn mostly + 4.5/5 psl.

But i am investing consistent effort to get laid and improve compared to most people here who just post pictures, get 2 selfies put them on tinder and get rejected XDXDXD

what would i be in one of those first 3 categories tbh
i do better on yubo than tinder since im <18 i regurarly pull off yubo have roughly 3 fwb's atm and 4-7 i can add without a hassle?
@larsanova69 @TRUE_CEL @Danish_Retard @fukmylyf @Warlow

 

[Deleted member 4430]

PSL is an aesthetic scale, the fact that people here are now trying to incorporate some real life response, which is also not measurable, is absolutely beyond me.

 

[Deleted member 11758]

am i high PSL?

 

[Deleted member 4946]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

You are correct, nevertheless, PSL ratings are measurable and SMV halos can boost it, both in total combined to form your IRL appeal.

 

[Edgar]

am convinced that most dudes on here just want to mog other men and not actually get laid

Yes

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

You literally stole this from Wheat Waffles

 

[Effortless]

PSL does not always equal wide appeal... you could have text book PSL features and still look like a gay alien with low appeal compared to someone with lesser PSL. This is why I think PSL is too objective for its own good.

Harmony is also something that adds to appeal and cannot be objectively explained, someone could have all the perfect PSL features objectively but when put together it might not be as appealing to someone whose has lesser ideal PSL features but those features somehow goes extremely well together.

 

[Deleted member 4438]

tfw women dont even look at you

know that feel bro

 

[Deleted]

could have been a good thread if u didnt bring up laycount bullshit. do you have ANY critical thinking?

psl is shit because nobody uses it correctly and everybody has their own perception of it. this site should implement a real system which people can follow and rate by.

Tru bodycount is somewhat irrelevant.

My 6'8 friend who's incredibly good looking said a girl from his class had told him everyone in his pararell class had a crush on him. Meanwhile he's a virgin, Not kissless bcuz he was almost raped by a girl but a virgin.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

PSL scale has no connection to reality, it is about what the guys on this forum think about other men

 

[Edgar]

We need some intelligent foods to rate tbh. Our heterosexual male brains can rate only like a computer

 

[Looks234]

My 6'8 friend who's incredibly good looking said a girl from his class had told him everyone in his pararell class had a crush on him. Meanwhile he's a virgin,

Volcel. He needs to ntmaxx and fuckboymaxx.

 

[DrTony]

I repeat. If a man is very good looking he will invariably have high bodycounts (if he is single) and not struggle with his dating life at all. If a guy struggles or has month long dry spells, he is NOT good looking. It is really not rocket science. I appreciate the analytical mindset here in terms of rankings, but ar the end of day we determine all that by the results it produces in real world not incomplete theories and what should/could have been

 

[tyronelite]

Been saying this since I joined the site

 

[fukmylyf]

Tony I fuk u in da ass

 

[Deleted member 14203]

I repeat. If a man is very good looking he will invariably have high bodycounts (if he is single) and not struggle with his dating life at all. If a guy struggles or has month long dry spells, he is NOT good looking. It is really not rocket science. I appreciate the analytical mindset here in terms of rankings, but ar the end of day we determine all that by the results it produces in real world not incomplete theories and what should/could have been

Not necessarily true. Rankings are still useful. A 4.5-5 PSL face probably won't be able to slay with face alone. But this is the range where they will be able to BECOME slayers if they gymmaxx.

Also, remember this whole forum is filled with above average autists who could probably have high body counts if they were NT.

Now OFC super good looking people will know it, but the distinction between below average, average, slightly above average, good looking, and very good looking are important. A 6/10 guy and a 4/10 guy will probably not get approached by women or get much validation for their looks. But if a 6/10 guy actually approaches a lot of women and puts a lot of effort in, he can definitely rack up a high body count and avoid dry spells. Obviously that doesn't apply to 4/10 and even the 5/10 guy is gonna struggle a lot more than the 6/10. It's not exactly black and white.

 

[DrTony]

W

Not necessarily true. Rankings are still useful. A 4.5-5 PSL face probably won't be able to slay with face alone. But this is the range where they will be able to BECOME slayers if they gymmaxx.

Also, remember this whole forum is filled with above average autists who could probably have high body counts if they were NT.

Now OFC super good looking people will know it, but the distinction between below average, average, slightly above average, good looking, and very good looking are important. A 6/10 guy and a 4/10 guy will probably not get approached by women or get much validation for their looks. But if a 6/10 guy actually approaches a lot of women and puts a lot of effort in, he can definitely rack up a high body count and avoid dry spells. Obviously that doesn't apply to 4/10 and even the 5/10 guy is gonna struggle a lot more than the 6/10. It's not exactly black and white.

I don’t believe in NT and personality shit. I used to but I have lived long enough to know now that it doesn’t matter. Decision has been taken based off of your looks exclusively. Also who tf cold approaches these days? All action is online

 

[Deleted member 14203]

W

I don’t believe in NT and personality shit. I used to but I have lived long enough to know now that it doesn’t matter. Decision has been taken based off of your looks exclusively. Also who tf cold approaches these days? All action is online

I don't mean cold approaching at grocery stores. I mean just generally hitting on women/warm approaching or approaching In social environments.

You are insane if you think being autistic is not a major problem for dating. I'm not talking about autistic chads, Chad can have whatever personality he wants. But autistic normies are going to struggle SO much more than NT normies. Why would a women get into a LTR with an awkward weirdo 6/10 guy when there is a line of normal 6/10 guys willing to commit. Plus autistic people aren't going to get invited to those social environments where you can irl approach.

 

[DrTony]

I don't mean cold approaching at grocery stores. I mean just generally hitting on women/warm approaching or approaching In social environments.

You are insane if you think being autistic is not a major problem for dating. I'm not talking about autistic chads, Chad can have whatever personality he wants. But autistic normies are going to struggle SO much more than NT normies. Why would a women get into a LTR with an awkward weirdo 6/10 guy when there is a line of normal 6/10 guys willing to commit. Plus autistic people aren't going to get invited to those social environments where you can irl approach.

You are either young and inexperienced or stupid if you think how you type. First of all, being non NT (or autistic as people say here lol) is directly correlated to being normie or sub5. Normies are struggling af in today’s dating market with massive dry spells or can only get sex in LTRs. You are non NT because your subconscious brain constantly evaluated your looks/status hierarchy and it is low. You haven’t received enough repeating positive feedback from the opposite gender so ofc you will feel this way. Autistic people are not invited because they are not charismatic. If you are tall and handsome you are automatically perceived as one even if you aren’t

 

[Deleted member 14203]

You are either young and inexperienced or stupid if you think how you type. First of all, being non NT (or autistic as people say here lol) is directly correlated to being normie or sub5. Normies are struggling af in today’s dating market with massive dry spells or can only get sex in LTRs. You are non NT because your subconscious brain constantly evaluated your looks/status hierarchy and it is low. You haven’t received enough repeating positive feedback from the opposite gender so ofc you will feel this way. Autistic people are not invited because they are not charismatic. If you are tall and handsome you are automatically perceived as one even if you aren’t

Like I said Chad can be as autistic as he wants and still get invited to places. Also, autistic chads with lower confidence and worse social skills100% exist, I knew one when I was in a game design club in HS.


College parties are filled with normies, and normies (especially High tier normies) can still get laid at these social environments filled with alcohol. Autistic normies Won't be invited to college parties.

 

[fvolkek]

Because your attractiveness score (whether you are a sub5, normie or Chad - 3 completely different worlds) is NOT determined by what I or any other user here thinks. It is EXCLUSIVELY determined by *how women treat you* the majority of your interactions and real life outcomes like bodycount. Thats why I always laugh when users here argue he is a 4, or 6.5 or 7. Does not work like this and it also doesn't matter. Look at your results instead. I think most people subconsciously know their score because they have kept a mental record of their interactions with women.

bro just let us cope in peace

 

[DrTony]

You are not autistic. You are just a shy introvert with social anxiety because you plain ugly or average normie with low body count and success with women (and likely others issues too) and coping it is something with your personality. I understand but please be more cynical and introspective. It is a more masculine trait even if it hurts your ego. Official diagnosis by MD clinician, is very very rare.

 

[Deleted member 13094]

rating in general from men especially people here is bullshit, the best way to get a accurate rating is to find a redpilled/blackpilled female that gives legit non-cope blunt ratings but that's like 0.0001% of women, the second way to get the best rating is from life not some autists on the internet, muhh a a girl that's probably a low tier becky called me cute on the internet so it's not over , but do women compliment you in real life ? do you get respect in real life ? do you get asked out ? etc these thinks will not give you an exact number but will give you an idea of how attactive you are

 

[Deleted]

Volcel. He needs to ntmaxx and fuckboymaxx.

He's a lack of trying cel. He keeps complaining to me about how he wants a girl (and even how he wants to do the feminine things like wear beauty masks etc jfl) but he never seems to try with girls