Why tall HTNs+ Get Outperformed by 5’11 LMTNS in High School.

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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
@larpingking @cowmuncher26 @milkshake_addict
 
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Oh my fucking god :lul:
Orange Talking GIF
 
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unironically happened to me

My friend's say that the girls our age wont give me as much as attention but by the time i hit college ill be a terraslayer
 
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Op is a 5’11 lltn who calls himself lmtn
 
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true
 
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Cause we got too much motion
 
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Maybe u jus ugly gng



jk good post makes sense
 
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true tall htns peak in uni and get "discarded" and called a hear me out in hs
 
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This is incredibly well written

Was worth the wait 😂

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage.
This part is so true ^

Obviously extremely grateful for everything I have, however people don’t often see the downsides when they aren’t the ones in the situation.
 
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Dude WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about? :lul::lul:

None of this matters. Getting highschool foids is 75% status and 25% looks. The only reason the 5’11 LMTN is pulling more bitches than the HTN is status. All the other stuff is bullshit. Did you forget a HLTB will whole heartedly believe she’s on the same level as a HTN?

Highschool dating market is shit though tbh. Status matters in the real world too but it’s more controlled and nerfed to an extent.
 
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Dude WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about? :lul::lul:

None of this matters. Getting highschool foids is 75% status and 25% looks. The only reason the 5’11 LMTN is pulling more bitches than the HTN is status. All the other stuff is bullshit. Did you forget a HLTB will whole heartedly believe she’s on the same level as a HTN?

Highschool dating market is shit though tbh. Status matters in the real world too but it’s more controlled and nerfed to an extent.
a lot of the things im talking about is what helps to build up to this status
 
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This is incredibly well written

Was worth the wait 😂


This part is so true ^

Obviously extremely grateful for everything I have, however people don’t often see the downsides when they aren’t the ones in the situation.
Thanks brah, I've been typing a bit on this everynight after busy school days or getting bored of counter strike :lul:
 
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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
will read 1000%
 
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Op is a 5’11 lltn who calls himself lmtn
Nah OP isnt larping, Theres a lot of truth to what he’s say as well. 6’4 HTN would do a lot better outside of HS
 
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Thanks brah, I've been typing a bit on this everynight after busy school days or getting bored of counter strike :lul:
yeah bro this is high effort asf
so accurate too
 
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Nah OP isnt larping, Theres a lot of truth to what he’s say as well. 6’4 HTN would do a lot better outside of HS
yeah I can’t wait to leave for that exact reason
 
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Nah OP isnt larping, Theres a lot of truth to what he’s say as well. 6’4 HTN would do a lot better outside of HS
Partly true but if ur not pulling in hs as a 6'4 htn you are probably known as a pedo or something
 
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good read, most interesting read in a while
 
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Cope

Just date into a niche that has a majority of tall women, they too stand out so your argument is basically invalid
 
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glad I didn't read this
 
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Partly true but if ur not pulling in hs as a 6'4 htn you are probably known as a pedo or something
Who are you talking about
OP isn’t 6’4, he’s 6’9
 
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Cope

Just date into a niche that has a majority of tall women, they too stand out so your argument is basically invalid
you are 15 and probably aren’t in the same shoes as OP
you wouldn’t have any idea
 
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Cope

Just date into a niche that has a majority of tall women, they too stand out so your argument is basically invalid
Nigga are you retarded did you not read the thread, where am I finding this niche of tall hot girls in my high school which is a small private school. Don’t pmo, did you not read the disclaimer
 
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Nigga are you retarded did you not read the thread, where am I finding this niche of tall hot girls in my high school which is a small private school. Don’t pmo, did you not read the disclaimer
Sorry bro I barely read anything Icl :)
 
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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
Mirin this wonderful thread , dnr it all tho
 
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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
It might be my problem
 
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lifefuel for mltn 5'11 manlets
 
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HS sexual marketplace is complicated; it's more of a social comfort zone. The 5'11 lmtn wins because he fits in will I lose for standing out. I'm here to explain to you guys why people like me (very tall, good body, and above-average face) don't get the weekly play y'all would expect us to in a high school setting.

Disclaimer ⚠ --> This doesn't mean we don't get play in clubs, parties etc. This thread is about high school struggles!!!

1.) Intimidation

Average guys get more opportunities because girls feel comfortable around them. Strongly above average guys get fewer opportunities because girls assume they're out of reach. They basically prereject themselves by prerejecting you to protect themselves.

5'11 LMTN (I chose lmtn cause its personal)Tall high-tier normie or +
She is confident around him, approaches him with easeLiterally even avoids eye contact because she is scared; approaching you is probably not even taken into consideration at all (I went out once with a girl from school, and we were holding hands and walking around the city, and I was tryna look at her and this bitch couldn't look me in the eyes for one second.)
She can play him, and she sees minimal risk of him being able to damage her ego.High risk to her ego
She can relax, be herself and do wtv she wants. What's the lmtn gonna do? He prolly doesnt have any other better options.She constantly feels judged and feels like she needs to perform for you in order for you to perceive her value
"He looks CUTE. I defo have a chance with him.""He's prolly got 100 bitches waiting for him (they all gen think I have like 10 gfs or som); why would he choose me. imma just embarrass myself."

2.) Comfort vs being awed

Unless she is some narcissistic bitch,
hs girls don't like having the spotlight set on them; they wanna be comfortable. They want somewhat eye level conversations, not to have to break their necks to look up to you as if you are about to give them a facial every time they talk to you. She wants to somewhat blend in, not be stared at by the whole school when she talks to you. Girls also want to feel like the hotter one in the relationship, it hurts her bad to be mogged by you, and not only that, it's also harder for her to control a better-looking partner than a LMNT. Not many high schools have 5'10 HTBS to looksmatch us. On top of that dating the lmtn comes with very little social pressure (I will be talking about this pretty soon).

Basically they just want 5'11 guys who can make them feel like queens, not a tera slayer who makes them feel like a sex slave peasant.

3.) Too much in too little time

In my experience, looks hierarchy starts forming right before the beginning of highschool . The 5'10 normie who was cute in 8th grade usually stays cute till the end. He stays consistent in value or potentially increases till 12th grade. But the creepy, slenderman-tall, skinny, lanky, not-so-pleasant-looking freshman suddenly turns into a 6'9, built, handsome and confident guy by senior year, no one really understands his smv or how to categorize him. He's way too new, different and really unexpected. So these lazy bithces do notice that you look really good, but instead of processing it or admitting it publicly, they legit just default to treating him the same. (Obviously there are some exceptions, for example, a new girl seeing you and calling you fine, which ends up showing preselection and then some other extra girls gone like you.) Its like 2.0 4-cylinder BMWs back in the day being ultra unreliable, and these days they have an ultra reliable b48. Some people still know them for how they used to be, not what they are nowadays.
SO BASICALLY YOUR SMV DOESN'T UPDATE FAST ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASCENSION.

4.) Social Costs of Dating a Genetically Superior Individual

When the girls dates the 5'11 lmtn her friends say "OMG, yall are so cute!", no one stares or gives a fuck, and people don't question the relationship much. The girl remains in her comfort zone. But when she dates a 6'4 chadlite like @ascendandforget people gone question her how she pulled him. Everyone stares at them and questions it. She's now the girl dating an absolute mogger, not just the girl. The girl that's dating HIM. If they break up, she is the one losing HIM. If he cheats, its a brutal humiliation. If the tall, handsome guy is ND, then the girl is gonna look stupid for picking HIM. ETC... The social risk for her is way too high; she'd rather play it safe than date up or looksmatch and risk staining her status.

5.) Physical Problems

Ok this one might sound a bit stupid and shallow, but it's a real issue for tall guys (6'4+). Imma just show yall this table and keep it simple. Intimacy is easier with someone closer to their height. Teenage girls prioritize ease and comfort over aesthetics.

5'11 LMTN6'4+ Tall Handsome Guy
Kissing feels natural and is simpleYou either have to bend down or she needs to get on her toes. Maybe even both
Hugging is simple and comfortableHugging is easy to get wrong and make it awkward. Deadass, I ask manlet friends or female friends to let me practice hugging them.
Dancing is easyDancing is sometimes ridiculous, especially when your head hits the ceiling of the basement at each house party.
Fucking or just making out is straightforward.Fucking genuinely might require planning or like, furniture rearrangement. From my experience, the couch always comes in clutch. So if you gotta improvise go to the nearest couch.
PDA is chillPDA attracts too much unnecessary attention.

6.) "Why me"

Your genetic advantages become a disadvantage. You are too good, so how are they going to feel special if the spotlight is always on you?
When you are tall af, handsome, built, girls think: you have hella options, you talk to a bunch of girls at once, you don't need her, you are prolly a player, or just automatically not interested in them.

To Conclude

Highschool is a status/popularity competition for AVERAGE people. It isn't made for crazy looking people, its like the perfect habitat where a 5'11 lmtn can blend in and make girls feel comfortable or special around him.
But I do believe (I hope i'm not severely coping) that the game changes completely after graduation. Entering college resets status, brings a much larger sexual market, these severely immature (I hate when people say women are more mature than men; they act like entitled, retarded babies their whole life) women mature a bit and start liking more robust looks. They'll stop liking the lmtn 5'11 cutecel unless they are acc pedos.

I feel like
I'M LOSING RN CAUSE IM TOO EARLY

I hope this simply explains to yall why I dont slay as much as yall think even tho I have great stats.

FORGOT TO MENTION --> I might also act subconsciously retarded around girls at school, but still my looks are supposed to compensate for that right???:feelswah:

@ascendandforget @Klassek @User28823 @Vrilltrum @hate
interesting read, now explain why i as a 5,10 HMTN get no play, does the same concept apply to me:feelsrope:
 
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