why the fuck do we have to work for a boss

Capitalism

That's why communism mogs.




You people are so naive. Communism looks good because folks like yourselves fail to understand human nature. It always goes to sh*t when played out though. Capitalism is the best thing mankind is capable of achieving.
 
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You people are so naive. Communism looks good because folks like yourselves fail to understand human nature. It always goes to sh*t when played out though. Capitalism is the best thing mankind is capable of achieving.
this NPC robot argument been debunked several times man holy shit
 
Because the boss holds all the risk, if the company goes bankrupt etc. you are some fool if you think you should be paid more than the one who holds all the risk while you are doing an easy piece of set action that anyone can do.
 
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Plutocrats of the world have designed this cave like this
100 years of rothschild rockfellers have created this world
top 1% owning 99%
 
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this NPC robot argument been debunked several times man holy shit
Oh really? And how many times has communism been debunked?
 
Capitalism

That's why communism mogs.




But I like how capitalism connected with lookism and racism.

I am low status poor cuck but I feel better abt myself because I mog subhumans.
Oh really? And how many times has communism been debunked?
if no communism I would be nobleman rn

I wanna write poetry fuck yellow skin slave girl and whip serfs.

wasn’t high high up but my great grandpa house now a National park.
 
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You people are so naive. Communism looks good because folks like yourselves fail to understand human nature. It always goes to sh*t when played out though. Capitalism is the best thing mankind is capable of achieving.
Whayt job do you do?
 
You people are so naive. Communism looks good because folks like yourselves fail to understand human nature. It always goes to sh*t when played out though. Capitalism is the best thing mankind is capable of achieving.
i really fucking hate working for a boss but at the same time i reject communism because most communists outright reject any sort of idealism. they really dont give a shit about your opinions on religion, nationalism, art, and tradition.

it would be fun fighting in a revolution and executing capitalists though
 
i really fucking hate working for a boss but at the same time i reject communism because most communists outright reject any sort of idealism. they really dont give a shit about your opinions on religion, nationalism, art, and tradition.

it would be fun fighting in a revolution and executing capitalists though
But what would you replace them with?
 
you can be a boss too, just need to take risk to lose everything and having debt if your buisness failed
 
You don't have to, make you own money lol
 
Because the boss holds all the risk, if the company goes bankrupt etc. you are some fool if you think you should be paid more than the one who holds all the risk while you are doing an easy piece of set action that anyone can do.
The boss is not the only one who takes risks: the working class is also taking risks by investing their labor into a company that they do not own. Workers risk their time, energy, and even their health in the workplace, and they are not compensated fairly for this risk.

The boss does not create value alone: value is created by the labor of workers. The boss may provide capital, but the workers are the ones who actually create the products or services that generate profits. Therefore, the workers deserve a fair share of the value they create.

The boss's power is based on exploitation: the power of the boss is based on the exploitation of the working class. The boss uses their position of power to extract surplus value from the workers, paying them less than the value they produce. This is the basis of capitalist profit.

Workers could manage the company democratically: the workers could manage the company democratically, without the need for a boss. In a socialist or communist system, workers would collectively own the means of production and make decisions democratically, without the need for a hierarchical structure that concentrates power in the hands of a few individuals.
 
Let me guess, when you were 7-8 years old and adults asked you about wanting a gf you would say shit like "Eww, I don't want a girlfriend!". But I bet you really want one now right?

Same thing is gonna happen in a decade. When you see everyone in their nice homes, driving nice cars, living a good life you are gonna wish you got your money right when you were younger

By then they all will have been deformed by aging and they would rope the moment they could see through those materialistic copes, you need those things when you are young not when you are +30yo, you need a +5000sqft house to yourself when you turn 13 years old not when you are fucking 40 and your face is starting to collapse from old age.
 
theyre there to guide you
 
Capitalism

That's why communism mogs.




working for private entity vs working for the state. a pointless difference you commie retard. and its far worse since centralized power is less efficient and more prone to abuse. imagine being low iq enough to think communism is viable when it has tumbled and burned every single time its been tried without fail.
 
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The boss is not the only one who takes risks: the working class is also taking risks by investing their labor into a company that they do not own. Workers risk their time, energy, and even their health in the workplace, and they are not compensated fairly for this risk.

The boss does not create value alone: value is created by the labor of workers. The boss may provide capital, but the workers are the ones who actually create the products or services that generate profits. Therefore, the workers deserve a fair share of the value they create.

The boss's power is based on exploitation: the power of the boss is based on the exploitation of the working class. The boss uses their position of power to extract surplus value from the workers, paying them less than the value they produce. This is the basis of capitalist profit.

Workers could manage the company democratically: the workers could manage the company democratically, without the need for a boss. In a socialist or communist system, workers would collectively own the means of production and make decisions democratically, without the need for a hierarchical structure that concentrates power in the hands of a few individuals.
every single person who write garage like this has a toddler's understanding of human nature, economics, and sociology. communism has never once worked and never will work until things like competition and scarcity of resources no longer exists. it is a theory that sounds good on paper because it is a n337 loser fantasy by a basement dweller with no real world experience butthurt about people having more than him.
 
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But what would you replace them with?
Do you know how cooperatives work?

it is a theory that sounds good on paper because it is a n337 loser fantasy by a basement dweller with no real world experience butthurt about people having more than him.
And rightly so, since the capitalists earned in a dishonest way as I proved in the previous post

every single person who write garage like this has a toddler's understanding of human nature, economics, and sociology.
If you're so smart, explain why. Any arguments?

communism has never once worked and never will work until things like competition and scarcity of resources no longer exists.
The scarcity of resources is a product of capitalism and not an inherent aspect of human society. Capitalism creates scarcity by allocating resources based on profitability rather than need, resulting in waste and inequality. In a communist system, resources would be allocated based on need rather than profitability, which could lead to a more efficient use of resources and the elimination of scarcity.

If we surrender to instincts, aren't we just animals? Don't we humans have the power of reason? Wouldn't it be desirable to suppress certain 'human instincts' just as we do in a daily basis to improve life quality?

working for private entity vs working for the state. a pointless difference you commie retard. and its far worse since centralized power is less efficient and more prone to abuse. imagine being low iq enough to think communism is viable when it has tumbled and burned every single time its been tried without fail.
Let me just remind you that Russia under the Bolsheviks from a backward agricultural state became a nuclear superpower capable of flying into space.
 
Because someone else owns the capital that multiplies the productivity of your labour.
 
You didn’t build it that’s why
 
Capitalism

That's why communism mogs.




"i can't accept skill hierarchy and I also don't know what trade mastery is, im a manchild who likes to play pretend and if someone knows better than me I don't want to respect their higher position as leader or manager"
 
someone knows better than me
How do you know someone knows better?

I don't want to respect their higher position as leader or manager"
Maybe it's because they're thieves? That they exploit workers?

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@irrumator praetor we are discussing economics, not psychology - was it too difficult for you to relate to the arguments of socialists?
 
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How do you know someone knows better?
They get vetted and qualified, its called human resources

Maybe it's because they're thieves? That they exploit workers?
If any stealing was actually going on, the CEO couldn't actually profit as much as he did, therefore the company wouldn't efficiently run and eventually it would fail. You cannot possibly not give out value and get value in return, if you can understand this concept. If 30% of the seeds are stolen, you reap 30% less

As for celebrities, blame society 🤷🏻‍♂️ the more retarded a society the more retarded their idols as society shapes their idols and vice versa
 
I'm still in high school, but i can't even imagine the idea of working for a boss. Having some guy profit off of the value of your own labor, day in and day out is the most cucked thing I have ever heard.

How do you not go ER working for someone else for years and years?
Become neurosurgeon or cardiologist and run your own clinic, its legit the most interesting job on the planet and pays insane money, currently studying my fucking ass off to get into medical school (here college is free)
 
They get vetted and qualified, its called human resources
Then why are you crying about the Jews and Klaus Schwab?

If any stealing was actually going on, the CEO couldn't actually profit as much as he did, therefore the company wouldn't efficiently run and eventually it would fail. You cannot possibly not give out value and get value in return, if you can understand this concept. If 30% of the seeds are stolen, you reap 30% less
Private owners are robbing employees of surplus value. Even though the working class invests their time, health and skills, they don't receive a fair wage.

As for celebrities, blame society 🤷🏻‍♂️ the more retarded a society the more retarded their idols as society shapes their idols and vice versa
Ordinary people are victims of the brainwashing of the capitalist system
 
I'm still in high school, but i can't even imagine the idea of working for a boss. Having some guy profit off of the value of your own labor, day in and day out is the most cucked thing I have ever heard.

How do you not go ER working for someone else for years and years?
 
I'm still in high school, but i can't even imagine the idea of working for a boss. Having some guy profit off of the value of your own labor, day in and day out is the most cucked thing I have ever heard.

How do you not go ER working for someone else for years and years?
rack up the racks and kickstart yourself sumn that you can earn money from. or idk
 
Then why are you crying about the Jews and Klaus Schwab?
Obviously you aren't acquainted with what you're talking about
Private owners are robbing employees of surplus value. Even though the working class invests their time, health and skills, they don't receive a fair wage.
Put a price on yourself, unless you're useless
Ordinary people are victims of the brainwashing of the capitalist system
The capitalist system itself is ok besides money printing and banking, it's jewish secret societies you would wanna blame, and tbf i don't see how its so hard to manipulate Europeans, most believe in retarded pagay Christianity
 
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Obviously you aren't acquainted with what you're talking about
I am familiar because years ago I was a fan of conspiracy theories

Put a price on yourself, unless you're useless
Your answers are useless, you have neither proved nor disproved anything

The capitalist system itself is ok
It depends for whom, for the ruling class for sure

besides money printing and banking
And you don't understand that this is due to the development of capitalism?

it's jewish secret societies you would wanna blame, and tbf i don't see how its so hard to manipulate Europeans, most believe in retarded pagay Christianity
Do you think other nationalities are less greedy? That there is no American, Japanese, German and Russian imperialism? Nazi propaganda blaming one nation won't change the fact that capitalists of all countries are equally greedy
 
Your answers are useless, you have neither proved nor disproved anything
Ad hominem
It depends for whom, for the ruling class for sure
Communism never worked

And you don't understand that this is due to the development of capitalism?
Nothing to do with it at all

Do you think other nationalities are less greedy? That there is no American, Japanese, German and Russian imperialism? Nazi propaganda blaming one nation won't change the fact that capitalists of all countries are equally greedy
No nation is as hostile as the long nose tribe. They have certain talmudic tribal views
 
Your answers are useless, you have neither proved nor disproved anything
Ironic as a communist come back to us when your theory is successfully practiced
 
Communism never worked
This has already been achieved. In prehistory. The example is hunter-gatherer societies.

In the communist primitive society, work was done by everyone who was capable of it, and its fruits - food obtained through hunting and gathering - were available to the entire community.

There was no private property and the means of production (tools, buildings, etc.) were publicly owned. Now humanity is heading back to communism, but with the difference that it is technologically advanced.

While it is true that no modern society has achieved a stateless, classless society on the scale of prehistoric communism, it serves as evidence that human societies have been able to organize themselves around principles of cooperation and mutual aid.

Ironic as a communist come back to us when your theory is successfully practiced
Yes, the USSR was a success - from a backward agricultural state, Russia became a nuclear superpower capable of conquering space.

Many other countries have developed much better than when they were capitalist. It is enough to compare, for example, Cuba to Haiti - which of these countries is better to live in? Countries with a similar history, but a different system

Nothing to do with it at all
Explain why, the burden of proof is on you

No nation is as hostile as the long nose tribe. They have certain talmudic tribal views
Anti-Semitism is a natural product of capitalism. Because when capitalism turns out to be systemically inefficient, and liberalism is no longer able to normalize or defend it, a scapegoat is needed by referring to property rights. The ideal way is to blame a certain poorly assimilated minority for all the misfortunes that befall the poorer class. This creates the perfect narrative that it is not the capitalists that are the problem, but only some of them who are of Jewish descent. Even better when you manage to link this minority to the critics of capitalism, suggesting a Jewish conspiracy standing with left-wing movements. Thanks to this, it is possible not only to avoid polemics with the opponents of the current system, but also to put the whole blame indirectly on them.

No wonder a capitalist like Henry Ford wrote The International Jew while supporting Hitler, and had no problem collaborating with the Jewish bourgeoisie when it paid off. The class of the Russian aristocracy behaved in a similar way, where a close collaborator of Tsar Nicholas, Matwiej Gołowiński, invented The Protocols of the Elders of Zion at the request of the secret political police of the Russian Empire. It was aimed at blaming the Jewish community for the social problems of Russia at that time.
 
Yes, the USSR was a success - from a backward agricultural state, Russia became a nuclear superpower capable of conquering space.

Many other countries have developed much better than when they were capitalist. It is enough to compare, for example, Cuba to Haiti - which of these countries is better to live in? Countries with a similar history, but a different system
The leading superpower today is capitalist
the leading superpower 200 years ago was SUPER capitalist (Britain)
The leading ssuperpower2000 years ago was capitalist (Rome)

Capitalism allows for individuals to shine as long as this trait of it lasts I do not care about its negatives
 
The leading superpower today is capitalist
You masturbate to Americans who are introducing "democracy" by dropping bombs on schools and hospitals in countries that refuse to submit to them?

the leading superpower 200 years ago was SUPER capitalist (Britain)
Marxist theory says that capitalism was a certain stage in the history of mankind, but that does not mean that it is the end of history.

and-historical-materialism-something-can-be-right-while-and-then-become-wrong-as-move-forward


The leading ssuperpower2000 years ago was capitalist (Rome)
No, you're confusing concepts. The Roman Empire was a slave society that later evolved into feudalism. Capitalism is the successor of feudalism, just as socialism is the next stage in the history of mankind after capitalism.

Capitalism allows for individuals to shine as long as this trait of it lasts I do not care about its negatives
It allows you to live really well for those who come in wealthy families.

Socialism is not about equality of outcomes, but about equality of opportunity. The goal is that everyone can start life on the same level.

Choose wisely
 
You masturbate to Americans who are introducing "democracy" by dropping bombs on schools and hospitals in countries that refuse to submit to them?
Well that's what a world-leading power does you bozo do you think Russia would not do the same if it were the global superpower?

I don't agree with what the American government does around the Globe but I definitely won't cope or pretend that other countries wouldn't do the same
Marxist theory says that capitalism was a certain stage in the history of mankind, but that does not mean that it is the end of history.

and-historical-materialism-something-can-be-right-while-and-then-become-wrong-as-move-forward
Water but Capitalism progressed during Britain's Superpower age Capitalism was about having children work in factories for cheap labor. That was the capitalism Marx endured and witnessed I don't think that faggot would have written his book if he experienced this modern-day capitalism.

In truth modern-day communists are bitching about issues that someone from the late 1800s and early 1900s experiences as if they experience those same issues too. Capitalism has evolved and is unironically slowly turning into socialism.

No, you're confusing concepts. The Roman Empire was a slave society that later evolved into feudalism. Capitalism is the successor of feudalism, just as socialism is the next stage in the history of mankind after capitalism.


It allows you to live really well for those who come in wealthy families.

Socialism is not about equality of outcomes, but about equality of opportunity. The goal is that everyone can start life on the same level.

Choose wisely
Bullshit there equality in opportunity in America than there is in China or Russia
 
This has already been achieved.
Communism failed in every country it attempted to properly establish itself, ie, its an unrealistic manchild system. Accept that u have to contribute to society in order to make money. It is how you pay your due for safety, sustenance, acquisition of food, water, essential goods and an active city and police force that protect you against earthquakes and fires and criminal mobs and thiefs.
 
property rights
They're solely responsible for the fall of the west you are entirely and extremely uneducated to the point where a 13 year old american nazi kid is more educated on why you see lesbian racemixed transsexuals in advertisements than a full - grown man who has never asked himself the simple question of "hey who's responsible for these perversions of morality?"
 
Jewish community
What a random pick! They could've blamed a hundred other minorities but they accidentally chose the politically and financially overrepresented one... Whys that
 
Explain why, the burden of proof is on you
What does artificially inflating the market have to do with a free market economy to be exact. Because you can do that anywhere where there is currency which holds value. And what does having high interest rates and making huge sums of money out of thin air while debt trapping nations of people (guess who holds the national reserve and major world banks ✡️ but accidents right?) (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, council of 13, 33, davos WEF, News & Porn media ✡️ same case in 1930s germany, jewish bolshevik leaders killing russian intellectuals and lowering the population iq, majority of bolshevik government was ✡️, holodomor ✡️) have to do with a free market economy that allows for innovation? It's simple, help and make money. If you can't help, sorry you are indeed only valued by your skill, time, or the amount of assets you possess. Btw banks get bailed out by government with jewish senators (USA🇺🇸)
 
Well that's what a world-leading power does you bozo do you think Russia would not do the same if it were the global superpower?
Russia, unlike America, did indeed bring liberation. Just look at Afghanistan, for example. This country had a much better standard of living under Soviet rule than under American occupation or the Taliban.

I don't agree with what the American government does around the Globe but I definitely won't cope or pretend that other countries wouldn't do the same
Me too. Therefore, I don't blame Jews only, but capitalists of all nationalities

Water but Capitalism progressed during Britain's Superpower age Capitalism was about having children work in factories for cheap labor. That was the capitalism Marx endured and witnessed I don't think that faggot would have written his book if he experienced this modern-day capitalism.
You look at it from the perspective of your own country and forget about the third world. There are still inhumane conditions there, and the West is responsible for that

In truth modern-day communists are bitching about issues that someone from the late 1800s and early 1900s experiences as if they experience those same issues too. Capitalism has evolved and is unironically slowly turning into socialism.
I'm glad you noticed that the next stage after capitalism is socialism.

Bullshit there equality in opportunity in America than there is in China or Russia
Modern Russia is a capitalist country of oligarchs, the USSR collapsed years ago. And by the way, explain how there can be equality of opportunity in America if one is born into a poor family that cannot afford health care and education while the other (e.g. Donald Trump's son) has everything provided.

Accept that u have to contribute to society in order to make money. It is how you pay your due for safety, sustenance, acquisition of food, water, essential goods and an active city and police force that protect you against earthquakes and fires and criminal mobs and thiefs.
I am curious how the owners of concerns are useful to society xD

They're solely responsible for the fall of the west you are entirely and extremely uneducated to the point where a 13 year old american nazi kid is more educated on why you see lesbian racemixed transsexuals in advertisements than a full - grown man who has never asked himself the simple question of "hey who's responsible for these perversions of morality?"
People like me, agents of the world government :feelsez:
 
I am curious how the owners of concerns are useful to society xD
Its why you're on your phone instead of being on guard duty outside the walls of your tribe village who goes around picking apples as if its the garden of eden and not earth and then shares it as if its gonna sustain them for more than a mere half an hour. You will see yourself reverting back to capitalism mainly because corruption and abuse is more prominent in communism because its a manchild ideology
 
Its why you're on your phone instead of being on guard duty outside the walls of your tribe village who goes around picking apples as if its the garden of eden and not earth and then shares it as if its gonna sustain them for more than a mere half an hour.
I can't criticize the society I live in? Companies cannot exist without employees, but they can exist without bosses.

You will see yourself reverting back to capitalism mainly because corruption and abuse is more prominent in communism because its a manchild ideology
Give me a definition of communism.
 
I'm still in high school, but i can't even imagine the idea of working for a boss. Having some guy profit off of the value of your own labor, day in and day out is the most cucked thing I have ever heard.

How do you not go ER working for someone else for years and years?
because he he is the only one with risk on he line, not to mention he has to train workers, maintain the morale, put in the capital, lease the whole place, pay your ugly ass, register the company, keep everything in line with the law, and many many many stressful and complicated things, so you can do your basic shitty task and get your wage which you spend in looksmax VIP membership and reddit gold. If it was so easy, then start a company yourself.
 
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But you don't get to spend your time how you want to spend it. We get about 50 years of good life in this world, after that it's just battling health issues and shit.
Anything that isn't traveling to different locations to fuck different women is time I don't want to spend. By that logic I shouldn't work any job that isn't that
 
Become neurosurgeon or cardiologist and run your own clinic, its legit the most interesting job on the planet and pays insane money, currently studying my fucking ass off to get into medical school (here college is free)
Girl in your avi???
 
think you're using words you don't understand, or you're intentionally manipulating the meanings of words
All i said is that communism is more prone to corruption because of the distribution of assets which is true

Have you heard of cooperatives? About worker self-management?
A retard that only knows how to put a graphite dildo in an empty wooden pencil shelling should get an equal say on how to run the company? To be frank hes on the intellectual level of a monkey and thus his role in the company is to stick graphite sticks into the wood of the pencil (just an example)
 
All i said is that communism is more prone to corruption because of the distribution of assets which is true
No, capitalism is prone to corruption. The rich bribe politicians and influence politics in such a way as to secure their privileges. They also control the media and want you to think that capitalism is in your interest.

A retard that only knows how to put a graphite dildo in an empty wooden pencil shelling should get an equal say on how to run the company? To be frank hes on the intellectual level of a monkey and thus his role in the company is to stick graphite sticks into the wood of the pencil (just an example)
Here are some examples of what it would look like in real life based on history:

1. The Free Territory of Ukraine
2. Revolutionary Catalonia
3. The Paris Commune
4. Rojava
5. Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities
 
No, capitalism is prone to corruption. The rich bribe politicians and influence politics in such a way as to secure their privileges. They also control the media and want you to think that capitalism is in your interest.


Here are some examples of what it would look like in real life based on history:

1. The Free Territory of Ukraine
2. Revolutionary Catalonia
3. The Paris Commune
4. Rojava
5. Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities
Why did they all fail
 

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