Why the Nordic model can't work in US/UK?

[Jason Voorhees]

The Nordic model of high taxes, generous welfare state, strong unions, universal public services, low inequality is often praised by eveyrone but the question is why can't the US or UK just copy Denmark/ Sweden/Norway?

The main counter argument I've seen for his is Anglo societies and mindset being fundamentally different.

Nordic countries are homogenous high trust countries Nordic countries until very recently were extremely ethnically and culturally homogeneous. Levels of generalized social trust are sky-high and they much more willing to pay 45-55 % effective tax rates because they believe that everyone else is also paying and the money goes to "people like us" rather than "some out-group"

Another argument I have read about is the anglo mindset. Anglos are cunning, opportunistic, capitalists who are driven by greed for money, power and individual benefits above the greater good of the group or anything else.

Nordics score extremely high on "egalitarian" values and low on "hierarchy acceptance". Americans and Brits (especially England) have a much stronger cultural belief in meritocracy, upward mobility through individual effort, suspicion of the state.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@imontheloose @rapelover3 @Saint Casanova @Magnus Ironblood @optimisticzoomer

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How is the UK different?

 

[rapelover3]

Anglo societies are pro-elitist and pro social classes

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

Water. Homozygous Ethnostates are the only High-trust States ( - Tribalism )
The Reason relative Ethnostates in Africa cannot be as High-trust as Denmark/Sweden/Norway/Adjacent is cause of Competing Tribal Identities. Without any Competing Identities - Tribes & Other Races; Only then a State can begin build Trust in its Identity.
U.S and U.K are the largest Melting Pots - Every Member from Any single Tribal Identity you could think of is an Inhabitant. There isnt an Identity

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How is the UK different?

In the words of a redditor.

England is lowtrust, class obsessed, property worshipping, immigration skeptical country that already thinks its taxes are too high and its public services are rubbish. Trying to push it to full Danish tax rates (50-55 % effective on ordinary workers) would trigger a tax revolt, brain drain, and probably another decade of Tory rule.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Buko

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@CorinthianLOX @Eärendil

 

[CorinthianLOX]

@CorinthianLOX @Eärendil

The judaized additude of modern USA.

 

[Deleted member 153838]

The judaized additude of modern USA.

Finland will fall apart in 10 years max

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Finland will fall apart in 10 years max

I know. Finland is entirely judaized and ran by the wallenbergs

 

[GoblinMaxxer]

The Nordic model of high taxes, generous welfare state, strong unions, universal public services, low inequality is often praised by eveyrone but the question is why can't the US or UK just copy Denmark/ Sweden/Norway?

The main counter argument I've seen for his is Anglo societies and mindset being fundamentally different.

Nordic countries are homogenous high trust countries Nordic countries until very recently were extremely ethnically and culturally homogeneous. Levels of generalized social trust are sky-high and they much more willing to pay 45-55 % effective tax rates because they believe that everyone else is also paying and the money goes to "people like us" rather than "some out-group"

Another argument I have read about is the anglo mindset. Anglos are cunning, opportunistic, capitalists who are driven by greed for money, power and individual benefits above the greater good of the group or anything else.

Nordics score extremely high on "egalitarian" values and low on "hierarchy acceptance". Americans and Brits (especially England) have a much stronger cultural belief in meritocracy, upward mobility through individual effort, suspicion of the state.

Blacks

 

[buddhistking]

Blacks

This is unironically true, but it's not black people's fault

The reason why healthcare isn't free in USA is because the government didn't want to make it free for black people in the 30s and 40s, that's the same reason why public transport is bad

The USA government actually had all the money for these social programs, but they didn't want to introduce them because that would mean every citizen (including blacks) can access it

The USA is literally so racist against blacks that it affects whites

 

[GoblinMaxxer]

This is unironically true, but not black people's fault

The reason why healthcare isn't free in USA is because the government didn't want to make it free for black people in the 30s and 40s, that's the same reason why public transport is bad

The USA government actually had all the money for these social programs, but they didn't want to introduce them because that would mean every citizen (including blacks) can access it

The USA is literally so racist against blacks that it affects whites

Cope nigger

 

[buddhistking]

Cope nigger

It's documented and true wut?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/universal-health-care-racism.html

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Because the Nordic model will cease to exist the Billionaires, along with the incentives that come toward becoming one

Potentially that could be a loss of innovation but more than that, it would end the parasitic system that the US is based on. Which even the average citizen is very willing to be a part of even though most dont believe in trickle down economics.