Marsik
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I actually had a great childhood. I was considered among the smartest kids, was in the "leaders" group and had girls chasing me. I was one of the only kids to have girlfriends extremely early. I had also friends and people were gneerally nice to me. The only who were mean to me were some older kids but they weren't mean in the "bullying" way but just the typical archetype of kids who aact tough because they are older. I was pretty nice looking as a kid. I had a great childhood and had a very high self esteem and attitude.
Everything changed in high school, or we can say, when puberty hit and my looks changed (I was not aware of this) for the worse, with my features becoming big for my facial "frame", getting acne, bad skin quality and shit. Like I went from 6.5/10 for a kid to 3/10 for a teenager. I changed schools and city with a friend and had all the "I will own this world" attitude, even jokin with my friend about how many girls we would get our first year, so i wasnt scared at all. I got absolutely obliterated and shut down, my life did a complete 180º to how it was as a kid. I was bullied both physically and psychologically on a daily basis. I blamed it on being "new" to the school and not having the right attitude. Everything about me that was viewed in a positive light as a kid changed now. I was thought to be almost gifted intelectually as a kid, while as a teen I was seen as someone with very low iq, even by teachers. I was praised for playing the accordion as it was thought to be a difficult musical instrument as a kid while I was mocked for playing a circus clown instrument as a teen. I was seen as interesting due to my interests in biology, computers and shit as a kid while I was viewed as a creep weirdo for the same thing as a teen. All of this includes adultsand kids too, so its not a "teens are just stupid" case. Every time I joined any social circle (hobbies, classes, music...), I became always the least respected member extremely quickly, no matter which attitude I had at first. Not even gonna talk about dating life, which was nonexistant. This lasted until almost mid 20's(i am 25 rn) to varying degrees. My friend (the one I changed cities with) had a completely opposite teen experience, because he didnt had a fucking trash puberty.
Then, my looks matured and I became 5/10 because now my facial features fit my facial frame much better, skin cleared etc, and surprise, life did another 180 turn. Playing instruments was viewed as fascinating again, I am thought to be intelligent, my hobbies and interests make people think im deep and interesting again, im automatically respected when meeting new people/social circles and I no longer have to constantly defend myself or be wary. Funnily, my face structure now resembles more my "kid" me (just resized) than my "teen" me. I think that a lot of now ugly guys probably had harmonious and good face structures, with wide jaws, high FWHR ratios and hooded eyes, but their bones failed to grew proportionally to what they were like as a kid.
My attitude was always the SAME because, since I was never aware of changes in looks, this never influenced how I acted. I was pretty surprised about the changes in life and blamed it on age, location or people changing with time.
Keep in mind that I wasnt aware of my looks variations until much much later than this. I thought that it was just life changing and didnt mind much the reason of the sudden changes. Later, while I was viewing some old pics of me, I saw how different I was as a kid than as a teeen and then saw how I changed from year 18 to year 25. Then I realized that my major changes in quality of life coincided with my major changes in physical looks. It all suddenly clicked. I started researching info about male looks, and after learning about what features are good for males I realized how my teens "me" looked the worst. This make me very aware of some other guys I knew whose looks changed trough life and how their lives changed accordingly. The looks = quality of life rule was true without exception for everyone (including me) who underwent significant changes in this department. One of the most extreme cases was some pretty short and babyfaced friend who in the span of 2 months got taller and his face matured, and his life changes were so extreme it was ridiculous. In 2,5 months he had whole new social circles, friends and girlfriends, things which he wasnt able to get in 10 years. I myself tried EVERYTHING, from changes in dressing style, attitude and went to therapy aswell. NOTHING worked, ONLY when my looks changed my life got better (with me wondering wtf happened since, I repeat, I wasnt aware of the change in looks). Also in EVERY case of brothers that I know in which one is noticeably better looking, the better looking brother ALWAYS has a much better life in general than the ugly one, and I don't mean only dating wise.
This is why I sympathize with "incel" communities and bullied people. Its because I saw the reality of how everything works and saw the world from the 2 sides of the coin (being treated like shit by life vs being treated like a human being). I saw how two people who can come from the same socioeconomic background, same family, same education, same upbringing and even same school and class can have ridiculously different quality of life, comparable to a king vs a peasant, based only on their looks factor
@Gonthar @MoggerGaston
Everything changed in high school, or we can say, when puberty hit and my looks changed (I was not aware of this) for the worse, with my features becoming big for my facial "frame", getting acne, bad skin quality and shit. Like I went from 6.5/10 for a kid to 3/10 for a teenager. I changed schools and city with a friend and had all the "I will own this world" attitude, even jokin with my friend about how many girls we would get our first year, so i wasnt scared at all. I got absolutely obliterated and shut down, my life did a complete 180º to how it was as a kid. I was bullied both physically and psychologically on a daily basis. I blamed it on being "new" to the school and not having the right attitude. Everything about me that was viewed in a positive light as a kid changed now. I was thought to be almost gifted intelectually as a kid, while as a teen I was seen as someone with very low iq, even by teachers. I was praised for playing the accordion as it was thought to be a difficult musical instrument as a kid while I was mocked for playing a circus clown instrument as a teen. I was seen as interesting due to my interests in biology, computers and shit as a kid while I was viewed as a creep weirdo for the same thing as a teen. All of this includes adultsand kids too, so its not a "teens are just stupid" case. Every time I joined any social circle (hobbies, classes, music...), I became always the least respected member extremely quickly, no matter which attitude I had at first. Not even gonna talk about dating life, which was nonexistant. This lasted until almost mid 20's(i am 25 rn) to varying degrees. My friend (the one I changed cities with) had a completely opposite teen experience, because he didnt had a fucking trash puberty.
Then, my looks matured and I became 5/10 because now my facial features fit my facial frame much better, skin cleared etc, and surprise, life did another 180 turn. Playing instruments was viewed as fascinating again, I am thought to be intelligent, my hobbies and interests make people think im deep and interesting again, im automatically respected when meeting new people/social circles and I no longer have to constantly defend myself or be wary. Funnily, my face structure now resembles more my "kid" me (just resized) than my "teen" me. I think that a lot of now ugly guys probably had harmonious and good face structures, with wide jaws, high FWHR ratios and hooded eyes, but their bones failed to grew proportionally to what they were like as a kid.
My attitude was always the SAME because, since I was never aware of changes in looks, this never influenced how I acted. I was pretty surprised about the changes in life and blamed it on age, location or people changing with time.
Keep in mind that I wasnt aware of my looks variations until much much later than this. I thought that it was just life changing and didnt mind much the reason of the sudden changes. Later, while I was viewing some old pics of me, I saw how different I was as a kid than as a teeen and then saw how I changed from year 18 to year 25. Then I realized that my major changes in quality of life coincided with my major changes in physical looks. It all suddenly clicked. I started researching info about male looks, and after learning about what features are good for males I realized how my teens "me" looked the worst. This make me very aware of some other guys I knew whose looks changed trough life and how their lives changed accordingly. The looks = quality of life rule was true without exception for everyone (including me) who underwent significant changes in this department. One of the most extreme cases was some pretty short and babyfaced friend who in the span of 2 months got taller and his face matured, and his life changes were so extreme it was ridiculous. In 2,5 months he had whole new social circles, friends and girlfriends, things which he wasnt able to get in 10 years. I myself tried EVERYTHING, from changes in dressing style, attitude and went to therapy aswell. NOTHING worked, ONLY when my looks changed my life got better (with me wondering wtf happened since, I repeat, I wasnt aware of the change in looks). Also in EVERY case of brothers that I know in which one is noticeably better looking, the better looking brother ALWAYS has a much better life in general than the ugly one, and I don't mean only dating wise.
This is why I sympathize with "incel" communities and bullied people. Its because I saw the reality of how everything works and saw the world from the 2 sides of the coin (being treated like shit by life vs being treated like a human being). I saw how two people who can come from the same socioeconomic background, same family, same education, same upbringing and even same school and class can have ridiculously different quality of life, comparable to a king vs a peasant, based only on their looks factor
@Gonthar @MoggerGaston
