Why were Europeans obsessed with BBC in the 1700s?

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Preventing necroing so bringing up a good discussion started by @Mogwarts_Dropout


While Europeans had been in contact with (black) Africans for a long time, and had discussed for a while their physical appearance, character, and customs, the notion that black men had large penises only appeared, in writing at least, in the early 17th century.
One of the first mention of this can be found in the Description and Historical Account of the Gold Kingdom of Guinea (1602), by Dutch explorer and trader Pieter de Marees. In a chapter titled "About the physical proportions of the Men in this Country and to what they may be compared in quality", Marees describes the various groups of people he met and includes two remarks about the Guineans' penis size.

Meers later add that "they are blessed with a large male member" (een groote Mannelickheydt). The illustration that accompanies the text shows on the left a naked man whose back is turned from the reader, who is thus spared the view of an organ rivalling those of Dutchmen. The text lists some positive qualities of the Guineans (good workers, strong, tough, good eyesight, quick learners) but also negative ones: they're avaricious, drunkards, gluttonous, and sexually rapacious (Sutton, 2012):

This basically encapsulates a discourse on the "hypersexuality" of Africans that will be repeated ad nauseam for the centuries to come, the penis size being just one element of this discourse.
But what did science say? The Anatomy (1611) of Dutch physician Caspar Bartholin the Elder is a large, exhaustive, and influential medical treaty. It includes a chapter on the penis, with a discussion on its magnitudo:

But what nations exactly? Caspar Bartholin doesn't say, but the century is still young.
Another notable text on the topic is The golden trade; or, A discovery of the river Gambra, and the golden trade of the Aethiopians, written by English explorer Richard Jobson and published in 1623. Here, Jobson repeats the "curse of Ham" trope popularized by other authors before him, notably the Italian scholar (and fraudster) Annius of Viterbo:

Is Jobson saying that the curse of black people is to have penises so large that they're "burdensome"? It's a little bit unclear. To his credit, Jobson refused to buy enslaved women, telling the slave merchant:

And now we can cite the Anthropometamorphosis (1650) of English physician John Bulwer. It's a popular medical book written in English, more accessible to lay readers than Bartholin's Anatomy. It also has a few lines on the penis and its magnitudo, which is basically a rewriting of Bartholin with some additional comments.

So Bulwer credits the Guineans (from Marees?) for having long penises, but that's because their cunning midwives have designed a penis enlargement procedure that is performed at birth. Is African post-natal surgery the future for English penises (or Dutch ones if we believe Marees)? Not so fast!

Then follows a text in Latin explaining how large penises are dangerous for women and likely to wound the uterus, and to cause incontinence and "perpetual diarrhoea". Also, the painfulness of the act prevents the woman from orgasming, so that she cannot emit her own semen (then believed to be required for conception). So: no babies. No need to emulate the Guineans then.
Let's go back to travel books and their hypersexual, hyperendowed black men. Winthrop Jordan, in White over Black (1968), cites The Golden Coast: Or, A Description of Guinney. (1665), by an anonymous English writer:

Another popular book of the second half of the 17th century is the Description of Africa (1668) by Dutch physician and writer Olfert Dapper, a long and detailed work based on reports of jesuist priests and Dutch explorers. Describing Guinean natives:

The grote mannelijkheit strikes again and one wonders whether it was just borrowed from Pieter de Marees. The book was translated in several languages. The English version, published in 1670 by Scottish editor John Ogilby, translates "large manhood" into "large Propagators" and forgets the Guineans' pride. The French version of 1686, though published in Amsterdam and thus not subject to royal censorship, does not mention penis size at all. Instead, the corresponding text is replaced with one saying Guineans are "light for running": they're good sprinters, another stereotype in making.
In 1686 was published a posthumous edition of the Anatomy of Dutch physician Thomas Bartholin, son of Caspar the Elder and brother of Caspar the Young, who identified the glands that provide vaginal lubrication. This is basically a revision of their father's book of 1611 cited previously. There are now nice anatomical drawings of penises, and a couple of additions.

Science had spoken! One of the greatest anatomists of his time had established that 1) Big nose means big penis, 2) People with big penises are stupid and 3) That "Ethiopians" (from Jobson?) ie black people are the winners of the Penis Size World Cup.


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After that, mentioning the penis size of black people became a staple of travel, science, and popular literature.

Here's a few lines about the pros and cons of penis enlargement pills, from the best selling A General History of the Pyrates (1724) by "Captain Charles Johnson", the book that kickstarted the whole "Pirates of the Caribbean" mythology.


Large-endowed black men and the women who covet them...

By the 18th century, the idea that black men and women were sexually aggressive and natural "fornicators", and that the men were endowed with large and powerful "propagators", was solidly entrenched in Western cultures, and not just in slaveowning circles. Winthrop Jordan cites German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, who wrote in 1795:


Edward Long, a plantation owner in Jamaica could write in 1772 (cited by Whitford):


So: the idea that African men are particularly well endowed was first created by European explorers visiting sub-saharan Africa in the late 16th-early 17th century, when the Atlantic slave trade was developing. These texts were not concerned by slavery itself (we even saw that Jobson was against slavery) but their increasingly racial considerations about the physical and moral aspects of Africans became part of the corpus of geographical and scientific knowledge that allowed the slave trade to develop. By presenting Africans as animalistic, notably from a sexual perspective, and ready to "conquer" white women willing to be conquered, these authors provided ammunition for the moral justification of slavery. Penis size was a minor point, but always a particularly graphic and popular one, which certainly explains its longevity to this day.



Sources

• Bartholin, Casparus senior. Anatomicae institutiones corporis humani utriusque sexus (etc.). Berhtoldus Raab, 1611. https://books.google.fr/books?id=PnpVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA135.
• Bartholin, Thomas. Thomae Bartholini Anatome ex omnium veterum recentiorumque observationibus inprimis institutionibus b.m. parentis Caspari Bartholini. apud Jacobum Hackium, 1686. https://books.google.fr/books?id=bMJkAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA235.
• Bulwer, John. A View of the People of the Whole World: Or, a Short Survey of Their Policies, Dispositions, Naturall Deportments, Complexions, Ancient and Moderne Customes, Etc. London: William Hunt, 1654. https://books.google.fr/books?id=35ZmAAAAcAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&pg=PA400#v=onepage&f=false.
• Dapper, Olfert. Naukeurige beschrijvinge der Afrikaensche gewesten van Egypten, Barbaryen, Libyen, Biledulgerid, Negroslant, Guinea, Ethiopiën, Abyssinie. t’Amsterdam : By Jacob van Meurs, 1668. http://archive.org/details/gri_33125009359999.
• Dapper, Olfert. Description de l’Afrique : contenant les noms, la situation et les confins de toutes ses parties. Amsterdam: Wolfgang, Waesberge, Boom & van Someren, 1686. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k104385v.
• Jobson, Richard. The Golden Trade; or, A Discovery of the River Gambra, and the Golden Trade of the Aethiopians. London, Penguin Press, 1968 (1623). http://archive.org/details/goldentradeordis0000jobs.
• Johnson, Charles. A General History of the Pyrates. Printed for, and sold by T. Woodward, 1726. https://books.google.fr/books?id=oipEAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA200.
• Jordan, Winthrop D. White Over Black: American Attitudes toward the Negro, 1550-1812. UNC Press Books, 2013 (1968). https://books.google.fr/books?id=fi7qCQAAQBAJ.
• Marees, Pieter de. Beschryvinghe ende historische verhael, vant gout koninckrijck van Gunea, anders de Gout-custe de Mina genaemt, liggende in het deel van Africa. by Cornelis Claesz, vvoonende opt Water int Schrijfboeck, 1602. https://books.google.fr/books?id=nS5lAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false.
• Ogilby, John. Africa: Being Accurate Description of the Regions of Aegypt, Barbary, Lybia, and Billendulgerid, the Land of Negroes, Guinee, AEthiopia, and the Abyssines; with All the Adjacent Island. T. Johnson, 1670. https://books.google.fr/books?id=P_3qs0yW6CQC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&pg=PA451#v=onepage&f=false.
• Sutton, Elizabeth A. Early Modern Dutch Prints of Africa. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd., 2012. https://books.google.fr/books/about/Early_Modern_Dutch_Prints_of_Africa.html?id=TflJSaElxdkC.
• The Golden Coast: Or, A Description of Guinney. S. Speed, 1665.
• Whitford, David Mark. The Curse of Ham in the Early Modern Era: The Bible and the Justifications for Slavery. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd., 2009. https://books.google.fr/books/about/The_Curse_of_Ham_in_the_Early_Modern_Era.html?id=hMb7_SL-OJYC.

*TLDR: Yes. It's true, it wasn't the Jews, it was European whites that first found BBC fascinating and YES it is real according to all European literature and eye witness accounts form as far back as European physical descriptions of blacks go.*

The highest consumers of BBC porn is white men. This is a fact. BBC fascination and obsession with black male bodies has been rooted in white anglo Saxon Germanic culture for as long as they've known about blacks.

*Fun fact*: When whites used to lynch blacks, they would always cut off their penis because they were so enamored with it (fact)

In short? Das right whyt boi.

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[MixedBoyo12]

That Dutch explorer gotta be gay asf to writes that shit, if I was one of those Guinea people i genuinely would have just started stroking my shi and try to fuc the slave owners wife if he’s so obsessed with dicks

 

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That Dutch explorer gotta be gay asf to writes that shit, if I was one of those Guinea people i genuinely would have just started stroking my shi and try to fuc the slave owners wife if he’s so obsessed with dicks

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By the 18th century, the idea that black men and women were sexually aggressive and natural fornicators, and that the men were endowed with large and powerful "propagators", was solidly entrenched in Western cultures,

Big black propagator can't be stopped, women hate tiny propagators

 

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