Why will the US win WW3 and China will lose? Superior American technology (Detailed analysis)

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As seen in the image, in 1936, 25 percent of nazi germany's imported oil came from the usa, 29 percent from the caribbean, and 9 percent from mexico. in other words, if an embargo was imposed when a global conflict started, it would lose 63 percent of all imported oil because the resources were located in geographies that it could not seize and use. while the ussr's share in this ratio was 12 percent, this ratio would increase after the soviet-german treaty in 1940.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)#:~:text=The agreements continued Nazi–Soviet,grain and 130,000 metric tons (

When people say “the US invaded Iraq for oil!” I think what most of them have in mind is an invasion like the Portuguese and Spanish exploitation of the gold in South America.
No, the ultimate goal of the US in the Middle East is not to use that oil for its own needs, but to make sure that it is not controlled by the Russians, the Europeans or the Chinese.
The US controls the world's fuel so that it can control the whole world.
China consumes more than three times as much oil as it produces.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/crude-oil-production
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/oil-consumption

Here is the list of countries that China supplies its oil to:
1. Saudi Arabia,
2. Russia
3. Iraq
4. Oman
5. angola
6. Kuwait
7. united arab emirates
8. brazil.
9. malaysia
10. Norway

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1310953/oil-imports-by-country-china/

Now, in this list, Saudi Arabia, which supplies 17.4% of China's oil imports, Iraq, which supplies 10.2%, Kuwait, which supplies 6.2%, and the United Arab Emirates, which supplies 6.1% of China's oil imports, the US has thousands of troops, battleships, jets, surface-to-air missile batteries, while the Chinese do not have any military presence.
above, I excluded Russia, which is already an ally of China, from “resources in geographies that it cannot seize and use”, and I also excluded Malaysia because China could seize it in a global conflict that flares up in the middle of this century.
Excluding these countries, China's oil importers account for 73.7 percent of the rest of China's oil imports, which is more than the oil imports lost by Nazi Germany.
Prior to pearl harbor, when the japanese empire invaded Indochina, the us imposed an embargo on japan. until then, japan was getting eighty percent of its oil from the us. but we all know that it was able to sustain a global conflict without all this.
However, when even the wehrmacht was far from completing its mechanization, when eighty percent of the entire German army was using horses as the primary means of transportation, when only 52 divisions of the wehrmacht, which had 322 divisions in 1943, were armored and motorized, when the overwhelming majority of the Germans were using horses, buffaloes, camels and other animals, especially horses, for their logistics while advancing on foot in battles and operations, the Japanese army was far behind even the Germans in terms of mechanization and was in no way comparable to the United States.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071013230714/http://american.edu/TED/ice/japan-oil.htm
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-wwii-german-army-was-80-horse-drawn-business-lessons-from-history/

but today China has a fully mechanized armed forces and is therefore much more dependent on oil than the Axis armies of the second world war.
While the 1,560,000 tons of oil that Romania supplied to Germany in the second world war was insufficient but still vital for Germany, the amount of oil imported by the People's Republic of China in 2022 is 563,990,000 tons.
And when it enters a world war, it will need much more than it consumes now.

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...s-hit-record-fuel-demand-recovers-2024-01-12/

If the US and China go to all-out war, one of the key words in the history books about why the People's Republic of China lost this war will undoubtedly be “shortage”.
Today, the ratio of US defense spending to its gross domestic product is 3.3 percent.
US defense spending is 916,000,000,000,000 US dollars, more than the next 9 countries on the list of the world's top defense spenders combined.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/
The United States alone accounts for 40 percent of the planet's total defense spending

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2024/04/t...on-defense-than-the-next-9-countries-combined

but economics is only one of the drivers of war.
Let's go back to 1982, to the Falklands War between Britain and Argentina.
in an alternate time period;
First of all, in this war, Argentina used chemical weapons against British troops, the British hit Argentina with nuclear weapons, the war escalated horribly, and both countries declared a state of mobilization,
Secondly, that the territory of South America is completely devoid of tungsten reserves,
Thirdly, let's assume that Argentina suddenly found abnormally large quantities of gold and diamonds in its territory.
tungsten is a vital material for armor-piercing ammunition, and in a situation like the Falklands war, where the war evolves into an all-out war, it will be decisive in the effectiveness against enemy vehicles and missiles, especially in the ammunition of ship or land-based ciws systems.
But in this hypothetical situation where Argentina and the UK use chemical and nuclear weapons and declare a state of mobilization, where Argentina is under a total blockade and South America is short of tungsten, would the hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars of gold and diamond reserves that Argentina would find solve this need?
No.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/art...ukes-to-falkland-islands-during-1982-conflict

because there is a physical limit to what you can do with money and funds.
When Nazi Germany took over mainland Europe, oil was scarce, nickel and cobalt, which were critical for the Luftwaffe, were almost non-existent, and it was never able to obtain even a quarter of a quarter of what was sufficient because the resources were located in the territory of enemies with whom it was at all-out war. the fact that Nazi Germany was richer or much richer would not have changed this situation in any way, it would not have enabled it to exceed its physical limits.

https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/13/1/33/1543478

So one of the first factors to consider in a US-China total war scenario is that while China's energy is limited, the US is not.
The second factor to look at is not only the budget of the US armed forces on paper, but also the territory it occupies on the planet and how it envelops this planet.
When planning a war scenario against iran, the routes and possibilities of iran attacking your territory are known. there is no guide, no anomaly in a war against america. a b-1 lancer taking off from diego garcia in the indian ocean can be a threat to pekin or moscow. an sm-3 waiting to be fired from the deck of an arleigh burke class destroyer off the coast of iceland can be a threat to a civilian satellite or a military satellite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3

What is the largest air force in the world?
The US Air Force, of course, with 5,369 aircraft.
What is the second largest air force in the world? Chinese air force? Russian air force?
The second largest air force in the world is the US Navy with 4,012 aircraft.
Today, the term “supercarrier” is not used by any navy as an official classification name and is used by the media to describe the largest and most advanced aircraft carriers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy#:~:text=It has 299 deployable combat,as of Jul 18, 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier#Supercarrier

The ultimate example of these supercarriers are the American-built ones.
the uss enterprise, launched in november 1961, was a kitty hawk class aircraft carrier, but unlike other kitty hawk class ships before it, it was nuclear powered. the 95,000-ton enterprise was the first supercarrier with a nuclear reactor, but the uss nimitz, launched in 1967, brought the capability gap between the us navy, already the most powerful in the world, and the rest of the world to an absurd level. nimitz-class nuclear aircraft carriers have been in service for 55 years. the nimitz class replaced the kitty hawk class, the first example being the uss gerald r. ford, which entered service on june 22, 2017. the ford gerald r. ford-class ships will also replace the nimitz class.
The Americans have 10 nimitz-class and 1 gerald r. ford class and 11 nuclear-powered supercarriers.
These ships are more than 330 meters long and weigh more than 100,000 tons.
an American supercarrier carries a fleet of 44 fighters (f/a-18e/f super hornet and f-35c), 8 mh-60s helicopters, 5 e-2 hawkeye command, control and early warning aircraft, 2 cmv-22b tiltrotors, 5 ea-18g growler electronic warfare aircraft and 11 mh-60r helicopters.

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an average of 6,000 people are on board an American supercarrier at sea. 3,200 of them are the personnel responsible for running the ship itself, from deck maintenance and repair to cooking. the rest are the personnel of the air fleet that the ship hosts, from air traffic controllers to pilots.
These ships were equipped with two rim-162 essm launcher platforms. rim-162 missiles can reach speeds of over 4900 kilometers per hour, have a maximum range of more than 50 kilometers, were developed to intercept supersonic anti-ship missiles and aircraft, but with the necessary engagement mode, they can also be used against surface targets, i.e. other ships.
2 mk-144 launchers each carrying 21 rim-116 rolling airframe missiles, 3 phalanx ciws, 4 25mm mark 38 weapon systems and 4 m2 browning; While destroying kamikaze drones and unguided rockets advancing on it in the Arabian Sea, as the USS Carney destroyed, while destroying supersonic anti-ship missiles coming at it on the one hand, while destroying an Iranian navy, the F-18 squadron that has taken off from its deck can end a naval battle with the Chinese navy 900 km away in the middle of the Indian Ocean before it even starts thanks to the agm-158 LRM stealth anti-ship missiles.

https://www.twz.com/uss-carney-shoots-down-missiles-drones-fired-from-yemen
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/cont...ts/business-area-landing/Fast-Facts-LRASM.pdf

a US aircraft carrier has a maximum speed of 56 kilometers per hour and can travel from Norfolk, Virginia, to the Middle East in just one week. they have unlimited range, can travel more than 1,000 kilometers per day, do not need access to land bases that could become unusable in a crisis, and can strike hundreds of targets on land and at sea every day for months.
supercarriers sail with carrier strike groups. while the flagships of carrier strike groups are supercarriers, these formations consist of a ticonderoga-class missile cruiser, two arleigh burke-class destroyers, a los angeles-class submarine and a supply ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga-class_cruiser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles-class_submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-class_fast_combat_support_ship

7 years ago, in october 2016, the houthis shot down a ship belonging to the united arab emirates. this ship, built by an australian company for the us, was later donated to the uae. the explosion in the video, which could have had catastrophic consequences, is only a partial and old demonstration of the capability of the iran-backed houthis. and more importantly, it shows that the uss carney, an arleigh burke class destroyer, did a very successful job.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/2/yemen-houthis-claim-attack-on-uae-military-vessel

carney destroyed 4 cruise missiles and 15 drones on October 19, 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Carney

arleigh burke class destroyers and ticonderoga class cruisers, unlike aircraft carriers, have artillery systems, cruise missiles such as bgm-109 tomahawk and rum-139 vl-asroc, anti-submarine missiles, missile and air defense systems such as rim-174 and rim-161 standard missile 3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUM-139_VL-ASROC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-174_Standard_ERAM

rim-161s contain an exoatmospheric kill vehicle, or ekv, and can shoot down satellites and intercontinental missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost
https://www.twz.com/37685/the-navy-...ot-down-an-intercontinental-ballistic-missile

cruisers and destroyers, which are part of carrier strike groups, do not only protect aircraft carriers. they also protect the territory of US allies within the aegis combat system, which includes other cruisers and destroyers of the same class but not part of carrier strike groups. they operate as sea-based variants of the early warning radar ecosystem of the gmd missile defense system on the us mainland, which spans the entire planet, from england and california to alaska and poland, where a ticonderoga class cruiser escorting an aircraft carrier fleet a few kilometers off the coast of isral bombing libya could shoot down a russian missile fired from chelyabinsk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Combat_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Phased_Array_Radar_System#/media/File:PAVE_PAWS&BMEWS.svg
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/08...r-ready-to-plug-in-at-northcom-within-months/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...d#/media/File:GBI_from_PL_Cannot_Catch_Ru.gif

While one carrier strike strike group is spewing death all over Iran, from thermal power plants to tankers, others may collide with China in the South Pacific, another may hunt Russian submarines in the Baltic Sea, another may shoot down satellites and missiles in the Atlantic.

America can do all of these - at the same time.
anyone who understands a little geopolitics knows that the United States not only possesses a firepower so massive, uninterrupted and accurate that no other civilization has ever possessed it, but that it can take that firepower across oceans to the doorstep of other civilizations. in the event of a global conflict, nowhere in the world will be able to produce as many jets, ships, air-to-air missiles as on US soil.

But when a military expert is asked about the most important advantage it has over its enemies, the answer is connectivity.


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What does that mean?

'’the mentality that founded the soviets thought that the industrial society mode of production of the early 20th century was the end of history. huge factories, millions of workers with jobs and homes, collective surplus-value squeezing with ideological gas worked up to a point. in this context, an extremely poor and backward country like russia became a superpower in 20-30 years.
but if you study technology, industrial organization, economic geography, etc., I think you will better understand why the soviets didn't work in the long run. because capitalism continued to transform after the fordist model that emerged at the beginning of the 20th century and is still transforming today.

What the continuation of this transformation has brought about is that as the US physical ecosystem of tens of trillions of dollars, millions of patents, billions of tons of material has continued to evolve, it has created a digital ecosystem.
command and control with uninterrupted, real-time data transmission.

31 years ago in the Persian Gulf,

While transferring data to LCD screens in the cockpits of ah-64 apache helicopters from inside mh-53js, awacs planes transfer data to f-15s, f-16s and f-18s, gps guides cruise missiles, the digital ecosystem integrated into all this physical ecosystem put it ahead of the others.

Today, the US can hit every single warhead of a fired intercontinental nuclear missile.
Being able to see at night from the streets of Panama to the streets of Bagdad and mark targets with the infrared laser of your weapon was like a superpower.

But now America's enemies have this equipment.

Americans today have made this connectivity even more versatile.


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When you integrate the android team awareness kit (atak) into the an/pvs-31 night vision device, it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie or videogame. and this is being developed further.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Team_Awareness_Kit
https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/binocular-night-vision-device-bnvd-an-pvs-31


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https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-ivas-fielding-2022/

That is, from the xm-157 fire control system on the xm7 rifle of the US infantry in Taiwan, which can be called a miniature version of the ballistic computer of a main battle tank, to an early warning radar in Poland, this physical ecosystem is interconnected by a digital
ecosystem that never stops and never rests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM7_rifle

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In 2024, the US has ordered 72 fighters, 48 f-35a and 24 f-15ex eagle ii, the largest number since 1991. In 2025, the defense budget will increase by another $55 billion, but the planned goal is to raise defense spending by hundreds of billions of dollars to over $1 trillion, with 5 percent of GDP allocated to defense.

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/05...ic-jump-in-defense-spending-55b-more-in-fy25/

guam will have the most complex air defenses in the entire world by 2030.

https://www.twz.com/guams-airspace-set-to-be-most-defended-on-earth-in-new-plans

The US Navy is by far the largest navy in the world today.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/top-ten-navies-by-aggregate-displacement-1-january-2024-v0-v0rvat475pac1.png?s=c7b455f7ec9ac30be75bcd5d0b3370d697ef5f22&rdt=62540

In terms of tonnage, it is larger than the sum of the next 5 navies. it is not more than twice as large as the sum of the navies of the entire planet as it was at the end of the second world war, but in terms of capability, the difference between the navies of the USA and the rest of the countries is absurd, especially the unrep (underway replenishment) capability of the US Navy is more than the sum of all the navies of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underway_replenishment

Cruise missiles are undoubtedly one of the most frightening anti-ship weapons. nowadays, cruise missiles are not carried by bombers like bombs, but by systems called “rotary launchers”. the system in the image is from the boeing b-52, the b-1 lancer also has this system.
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However, the Russian Tu-160 bomber has a similar system. However, due to the maintenance costs of the Tu-160, Russia uses Tu-95ms aircraft to strike Ukraine.
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The next level in these systems is rapid dragon.

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this system makes it possible to fire cruise missiles such as the agm-158 jassm agm-158c lrasm from cargo pallet modules and turns transport aircraft such as the c-17 globemaster iii into gunships capable of carrying dozens of jassms, making a transport aircraft many times more lethal than the tu-160. a tu-160 can carry 6 cruise missiles, a b-1 lancer can carry 8 cruise missiles, while a c-17 rapid dragon can carry 45 cruise missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_Dragon_(missile_system)

Considering the number of C-17 aircraft in the hands of the US, the ability to maintain/repair and produce C-17s, and the range of the jassm-xr version of the agm-158, it can be better understood what a terrible advantage the rapid dragon and the capability it brings to the US on this planet.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dece...oyment-us-militarys-rapid-dragon-jensen-j2tkc

the US has 50,000 troops in Japan and 28,500 in South Korea. As I said before, we can argue that the US is already by far the largest military and economic power in the world, or how the armed forces from Diego Garcia and England to South Korea and Iraq will evolve if the US switches to a war economy, or that Boeing's 50-ton, unmanned, autonomous Orca submarines are a bigger problem for the Chinese than the US's unmanned aerial vehicles such as the RQ-180, MQ-25 and MQ-20 Sea Avenger,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...h-drone-appears-to-be-operational-near-china/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-20_Avenger#Sea_Avenger
https://asiatimes.com/2023/12/behold-orca-us-navys-robotic-sub-built-for-drone-swarms/

but the most absurd advantage is the logistical capability.
80 years ago, the US landed on an atoll in Ulithi without a single pier and in less than a year turned it into the busiest naval base on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulithi

If the Chinese air navy and air force suffer terrible losses - unlike the US - they will never get back to where they were before they suffered those losses.
Now let's talk about unconventional capabilities.
The first thing that needs to be mentioned in this regard is what I wrote before; in this ecosystem, which extends from Poland and Alaska to land-based radars in Guam and from there to the combat systems of NATO and its allies, the sm-3 system, which shot down an ICBM warhead in 2019, is not the ultimate exoatmospheric kill vehicle platform in US service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost
https://www.army.mil/article/219788...t_significant_test_in_missile_defense_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3

the most effective weapon system against ballistic missiles, ekvs' dominant platform in american service is the gbi ([ground-based interceptor ground-based interceptor]). the us has 44 gbi systems and the plan is to have 64. however, the program aimed at putting a more advanced version of the gbi into service has been liquidated and lockheed martin won the tender for the program to put an even more advanced version into service. From 2026 onwards, the United States will further extend its unrivaled lead in this field and will deploy systems that carry more than one EKV. the People's Republic of China, like Russia, lacks less than a quarter of a quarter of such a defense capability against intercontinental ballistic missiles, both on land and at sea.

https://breakingdefense.com/2019/08/pentagon-cancels-multi-billion-boeing-missile-defense-program/
https://news.lockheedmartin.com/202...in-to-provide-its-Next-Generation-Interceptor

The next generation interceptor, like gbi and aegis, is integrated not only into the early warning systems of nato and its allies that stretch across the planet, across oceans and continents, but also into systems hundreds of kilometers above the earth's surface, and just as the us is now monitoring every Russian icbm garrison 24/7, so too is china's icm silo construction and every element of mass destruction, from nuclear submarines to command and control headquarters, under constant surveillance.
The total number of nuclear weapons possessed by the People's Republic of China is slightly less than one tenth that of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-Based_Infrared_System
https://fas.org/publication/a-closer-look-at-chinas-missile-silo-construction/

China is inferior to the United States in every factor, such as the number of ICBMs, the number of SLBMs, the accuracy of the warheads, etc.

https://fas.org/initiative/status-world-nuclear-forces/

One of China's biggest disadvantages in such a war is that it lacks the geography of a country like the United States, which borders the oceans by thousands of kilometers.
when the cold war turned into a hot war, the USSR needed to be able to hang the gap of gıuk (g)reenland (i)celand (u)united (k)ingdom to get out of the baltic sea so that half of its navy would not be destroyed.

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Today, China is in a more disadvantageous position than the USSR and Russia. no, not because it is not bordered by the Barents Sea and the Pacific Ocean.
only some parts of the South China Sea are deep enough to operate nuclear submarines. because the shallowness of the sea in the rest of the territorial waters makes Chinese submarines extremely detectable. this is a huge geographical disadvantage for China.


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One of the privileges of the US being the greatest economic, military and innovation power, and not being subject to physical limits, is that it can achieve a capability that it lacks in a much, much shorter time than other powers.
when iraq invaded kuwait on august 2, 1990, the us began planning an air campaign against iraq. it was unclear whether the blu-109 would be sufficient to destroy the iraqi bunkers. iraq had established defense industrial ties with east germany and yugoslavia. yugoslavia had built many bunkers in iraq in the late 1970s and early 80s, and the bunkers were both high quality and built in large quantities.
estimates indicated that the gbu-24 could penetrate the earth enough to reach these bunkers, but it would be inadequate against the deepest bunkers (those containing command and control centers), which were 15 meters underground.
Many ideas were discussed, from an unmanned hypersonic vehicle to a super-alloyed version of the blu-109, but these would take months to develop, and the US needed a weapon capable of destroying the Iraqi command centers immediately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-109_bomb
https://www.refworld.org/reference/countryrep/icg/2002/en/33264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-24_Paveway_III

It was then decided to use the barrel of the 203mm M110 howitzer as a bomb body, and the US; It took two (2) weeks for the US to design, prototype, test, deploy and operationalize the bomb that would destroy the command and control bunker, the heart of a series of bunkers at the base, which included a military airport, a facility capable of producing 1,000 barrels a year, a maintenance and repair center for scud missiles and t-54/55/62 tanks, and facilities capable of producing t-72, t-72 armor. Saddam's most complex bunker was destroyed with a single bomb and Iraq signed a ceasefire agreement the next day.
the bomb cut through the floor like butter and exploded inside the bunker, killing everyone. saddam's most complex bunker was destroyed by a single bomb and iraq signed a ceasefire agreement the next day.
the reason I mentioned this US superiority was that just because the US doesn't have a conventional weapon that can penetrate the three strait dams right now doesn't mean that it won't still have one a month after the war starts. it could do it with super bunker busters that are being developed right now and are scheduled to enter service in the early 2030s, it could do it with optimized versions of some of the older “things”.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/05/bunkers-and-bunkerbusting-in-2030-with.html
https://nukecompendium.com/hellbender/

China has energy limits, the US does not. even in this state, not destroyed and not in active conflict, China lags behind the US not only in defense but also in technological innovation in civilian industry

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-64143602

Unlike the United States, China does not have operational systems capable of simultaneously destroying these threats, from ICBM warheads to satellites, both from ships and land, from Alaska and Poland to Diego Garcia and Japan.
China has less than a tenth of the number of nuclear/thermonuclear weapons of the United States, and even fewer deployed strategic warheads.

At no point in its history has China conducted nuclear/chemical/biological weapons programs as large and sophisticated as those of the United States, nor does it have today a quarter of the defensive systems and NBC capabilities against these weapons that the
United States has.

In the event of total war, China will not be able to produce as many fighters, seeker warheads, aircraft carriers, autonomous submarines and, more importantly, as much oil as the United States.
the depth of China's territorial waters - especially its nuclear submarines - makes its navy even more vulnerable and target-prone than the Russian navy

At the beginning I illustrated it with a theoretical scenario based on argentina and tungsten.
Of course, in reality Argentina has tungsten ores.
News from December 1, 1941: Argentina will sell all the tungsten it mines to the USA.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/271473561?browse=ndp:browse/title/D/title/1852/1941/12/01/page/30474572/article/271473561

This is the difference between a superpower and a hyperpower. while nazi germany was experiencing a tungsten shortage, the us was getting even more, even though it was wallowing in tungsten thanks to the resources on its own mainland. while the resources
and production on its own territory were already providing more explosive production than anyone else, the us was still getting even more from chile.

it will be exactly the same in a china us war. the us will be able to go and use the whole planet as its own territory like in the second world war, even though the us is not limited by the physical limits that china is already subjected to.

DNR:

Nuclear, chemical, biological, conventional, limited or total.... china is at a disadvantage in every single factor in this potential war, the outcome of this war is known before it even starts, just like in world war 1, world war 2 and the cold war.

America is the greatest power in human history.
 
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And back on topic, once WW3 starts, there will be a nuclear war that will destroy the entire planet. There is no winner, because China and Russia can never magically disappear, like in a Marvel movie where the enemy just disappears and everyone is happy, so US or any other country can't win. We are far too interdependent on each other, especially in terms of private companies. Politicians instead just bark a narrative to win votes but will never do shit..
 
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And back on topic, once WW3 starts, there will be a nuclear war that will destroy the entire planet. There is no winner, because China and Russia can never magically disappear, like in a Marvel movie where the enemy just disappears and everyone is happy, so US or any other country can't win. We are far too interdependent on each other, especially in terms of private companies. Politicians instead just bark a narrative to win votes but will never do shit..
There will be no World War 3 between the nuclear powers. There will be an economic war between them (already happening).
 
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There will be no World War 3 between the nuclear powers.
Probably due to China and Russia are inferior to US and they are afraid of Uncle Sam. I have written above what will happen if one day they dare to start a war.
 
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Nominal matters
GPD by PPP matters a lot more (still not quite accurate indicator for determining the economy)
 
GPD by PPP matters a lot more (still not quite accurate indicator for determining the economy)
No. PPP is mainly adjusted GDP.

GDP PPP is the value of the gross domestic product of a region that represents the purchasing power of that country.

The PPP is not infallible. The process is quite complicated and comparability of the price index across countries is quite suspect. For example, the 2017 ppp process only collected prices in urban areas, which are then supposed to be adjusted to reflect national prices. These national price levels are compared to the US price level which is then multiplied by the exchange rate to arrive at a US dollar ppp. The information on the adjustment done to urban prices to arrive at the national price level is not readily available and is not public.

Much of the data collection behind the ppp is managed by national statistical agencies and regional institutions, e.g., in the case of Africa the AfDB. The entire process is not fully transparent - replicating a given country’s PPP is not possible and the underlying data is rarely shared. Also, the quality of the data is dependent on the country and the expertise of their national statistics office.

All this to say that the PPP may overinflate incomes of some countries. Some authors have argued that this may be the case for China and India. See Ghosh (2023), for a recent discussion.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...change-rates/6041CF50F8F3F78700EB7FFF9BF07CEF
 
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never gonna happen

nation states don’t exist in 2024
 
No. PPP is mainly adjusted GDP.

GDP PPP is the value of the gross domestic product of a region that represents the purchasing power of that country.

The PPP is not infallible. The process is quite complicated and comparability of the price index across countries is quite suspect. For example, the 2017 ppp process only collected prices in urban areas, which are then supposed to be adjusted to reflect national prices. These national price levels are compared to the US price level which is then multiplied by the exchange rate to arrive at a US dollar ppp. The information on the adjustment done to urban prices to arrive at the national price level is not readily available and is not public.

Much of the data collection behind the ppp is managed by national statistical agencies and regional institutions, e.g., in the case of Africa the AfDB. The entire process is not fully transparent - replicating a given country’s PPP is not possible and the underlying data is rarely shared. Also, the quality of the data is dependent on the country and the expertise of their national statistics office.

All this to say that the PPP may overinflate incomes of some countries. Some authors have argued that this may be the case for China and India. See Ghosh (2023), for a recent discussion.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...change-rates/6041CF50F8F3F78700EB7FFF9BF07CEF
it's still better than fucking nominal GDP. The figure of nominal GDP can be screwed up simply by inventing some idiotic service and putting a price on it.
For example, to pay a tax, you need to contact a special company, then pay this company so that it simply sends your money to the tax service.
That is, you take a service, put a price tag of 1000$ on it, and in another country it will cost 50$, and therefore GDP increases as much as possible. Naturally, this is not an indicator of the economy. Nominal GDP is artificially created nonsense.
And America's economy consists of 80% of these services, the remaining 20% is their real economy
In any case, the European Union was the first to lose the economic war
 
it's still better than fucking nominal GDP. The figure of nominal GDP can be screwed up simply by inventing some idiotic service and putting a price on it.
For example, to pay a tax, you need to contact a special company, then pay this company so that it simply sends your money to the tax service.
That is, you take a service, put a price tag of 1000$ on it, and in another country it will cost 50$, and therefore GDP increases as much as possible. Naturally, this is not an indicator of the economy. Nominal GDP is artificially created nonsense.
And America's economy consists of 80% of these services, the remaining 20% is their real economy
In any case, the European Union was the first to lose the economic war

No economist or organization finds PPP a more reliable measure of an economy than real GDP or nominal GDP. People who are jealous of the US and western countries think PPP is better because they like what they see better even though no one officially uses PPP as a measure of a country’s economy or economic strength
PPP is completely irrelevant when comparing economies of different countries. There’s a reason no economist considers China to have the largest economy or India to have the third largest economy despite those countries ranking 1st and 3rd in PPP.
No economist or organization is going to say that India has a larger economy than Germany or Japan. Or that China has a larger economy than the US
PPP Per Capita is a valid way to compare per capita income relative to cost of living between different countries. But GDP PPP is more of an individual indicator. It’s not a metric that can be used to compare the economies of different countries amongst one another. Hence, why the US is universally recognized as the largest economy and wealthiest country by far. Even China doesn’t consider itself to have the largest economy in the world
 
No economist or organization finds PPP a more reliable measure of an economy than real GDP or nominal GDP. People who are jealous of the US and western countries think PPP is better because they like what they see better even though no one officially uses PPP as a measure of a country’s economy or economic strength
PPP is completely irrelevant when comparing economies of different countries. There’s a reason no economist considers China to have the largest economy or India to have the third largest economy despite those countries ranking 1st and 3rd in PPP.
No economist or organization is going to say that India has a larger economy than Germany or Japan. Or that China has a larger economy than the US
PPP Per Capita is a valid way to compare per capita income relative to cost of living between different countries. But GDP PPP is more of an individual indicator. It’s not a metric that can be used to compare the economies of different countries amongst one another. Hence, why the US is universally recognized as the largest economy and wealthiest country by far. Even China doesn’t consider itself to have the largest economy in the world
you didn't make a single argument. All your words "no economist would say *this or that*".
And the German economy is shit. The Germans fucked up their economy.
And I don't think China's economy is the strongest in the world, just as I don't think the U.S. economy is the strongest in the world.
 
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i also wrote why nominal matters more. Are you unable to understand?
The only thing you explained was why PPP Per Capita doesn't mean anything, but we are talking about GDP by PPP, not fucking per capita
 
The only thing you explained was why PPP Per Capita doesn't mean anything, but we are talking about GDP by PPP, not fucking per capita
Capita or not, both way it is shit parameter. PPP itself is problematic.
 
Capita or not, both way it is shit parameter. PPP itself is problematic.
nominal GDP is even shitter parameter
 
America will lose and be destroyed.
But China will be defeated int he end, albeith with heavy casualties on the western sides.
 
No war will happen be serious
 
chinese iq is 110, white brah iq is 100

only way murica wins is if it keeps under the tutelage of Jews who have average iq of 120 - a mediocre, normie jew is a genius compared to everybody else
Jews are the Real Life Uchihas

"from where I stand, everybody else is Mediocre"

"compared to a Uchiha, even a prodigy is ordinary"

- Uchiha Sauke
 
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I also added it as a Word file. You can read it from there.


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As seen in the image, in 1936, 25 percent of nazi germany's imported oil came from the usa, 29 percent from the caribbean, and 9 percent from mexico. in other words, if an embargo was imposed when a global conflict started, it would lose 63 percent of all imported oil because the resources were located in geographies that it could not seize and use. while the ussr's share in this ratio was 12 percent, this ratio would increase after the soviet-german treaty in 1940.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)#:~:text=The agreements continued Nazi–Soviet,grain and 130,000 metric tons (

When people say “the US invaded Iraq for oil!” I think what most of them have in mind is an invasion like the Portuguese and Spanish exploitation of the gold in South America.
No, the ultimate goal of the US in the Middle East is not to use that oil for its own needs, but to make sure that it is not controlled by the Russians, the Europeans or the Chinese.
The US controls the world's fuel so that it can control the whole world.
China consumes more than three times as much oil as it produces.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/crude-oil-production
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/oil-consumption

Here is the list of countries that China supplies its oil to:
1. Saudi Arabia,
2. Russia
3. Iraq
4. Oman
5. angola
6. Kuwait
7. united arab emirates
8. brazil.
9. malaysia
10. Norway

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1310953/oil-imports-by-country-china/

Now, in this list, Saudi Arabia, which supplies 17.4% of China's oil imports, Iraq, which supplies 10.2%, Kuwait, which supplies 6.2%, and the United Arab Emirates, which supplies 6.1% of China's oil imports, the US has thousands of troops, battleships, jets, surface-to-air missile batteries, while the Chinese do not have any military presence.
above, I excluded Russia, which is already an ally of China, from “resources in geographies that it cannot seize and use”, and I also excluded Malaysia because China could seize it in a global conflict that flares up in the middle of this century.
Excluding these countries, China's oil importers account for 73.7 percent of the rest of China's oil imports, which is more than the oil imports lost by Nazi Germany.
Prior to pearl harbor, when the japanese empire invaded Indochina, the us imposed an embargo on japan. until then, japan was getting eighty percent of its oil from the us. but we all know that it was able to sustain a global conflict without all this.
However, when even the wehrmacht was far from completing its mechanization, when eighty percent of the entire German army was using horses as the primary means of transportation, when only 52 divisions of the wehrmacht, which had 322 divisions in 1943, were armored and motorized, when the overwhelming majority of the Germans were using horses, buffaloes, camels and other animals, especially horses, for their logistics while advancing on foot in battles and operations, the Japanese army was far behind even the Germans in terms of mechanization and was in no way comparable to the United States.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071013230714/http://american.edu/TED/ice/japan-oil.htm
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-wwii-german-army-was-80-horse-drawn-business-lessons-from-history/

but today China has a fully mechanized armed forces and is therefore much more dependent on oil than the Axis armies of the second world war.
While the 1,560,000 tons of oil that Romania supplied to Germany in the second world war was insufficient but still vital for Germany, the amount of oil imported by the People's Republic of China in 2022 is 563,990,000 tons.
And when it enters a world war, it will need much more than it consumes now.

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...s-hit-record-fuel-demand-recovers-2024-01-12/

If the US and China go to all-out war, one of the key words in the history books about why the People's Republic of China lost this war will undoubtedly be “shortage”.
Today, the ratio of US defense spending to its gross domestic product is 3.3 percent.
US defense spending is 916,000,000,000,000 US dollars, more than the next 9 countries on the list of the world's top defense spenders combined.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/
The United States alone accounts for 40 percent of the planet's total defense spending

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2024/04/t...on-defense-than-the-next-9-countries-combined

but economics is only one of the drivers of war.
Let's go back to 1982, to the Falklands War between Britain and Argentina.
in an alternate time period;
First of all, in this war, Argentina used chemical weapons against British troops, the British hit Argentina with nuclear weapons, the war escalated horribly, and both countries declared a state of mobilization,
Secondly, that the territory of South America is completely devoid of tungsten reserves,
Thirdly, let's assume that Argentina suddenly found abnormally large quantities of gold and diamonds in its territory.
tungsten is a vital material for armor-piercing ammunition, and in a situation like the Falklands war, where the war evolves into an all-out war, it will be decisive in the effectiveness against enemy vehicles and missiles, especially in the ammunition of ship or land-based ciws systems.
But in this hypothetical situation where Argentina and the UK use chemical and nuclear weapons and declare a state of mobilization, where Argentina is under a total blockade and South America is short of tungsten, would the hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars of gold and diamond reserves that Argentina would find solve this need?
No.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/art...ukes-to-falkland-islands-during-1982-conflict

because there is a physical limit to what you can do with money and funds.
When Nazi Germany took over mainland Europe, oil was scarce, nickel and cobalt, which were critical for the Luftwaffe, were almost non-existent, and it was never able to obtain even a quarter of a quarter of what was sufficient because the resources were located in the territory of enemies with whom it was at all-out war. the fact that Nazi Germany was richer or much richer would not have changed this situation in any way, it would not have enabled it to exceed its physical limits.

https://academic.oup.com/restud/article-abstract/13/1/33/1543478

So one of the first factors to consider in a US-China total war scenario is that while China's energy is limited, the US is not.
The second factor to look at is not only the budget of the US armed forces on paper, but also the territory it occupies on the planet and how it envelops this planet.
When planning a war scenario against iran, the routes and possibilities of iran attacking your territory are known. there is no guide, no anomaly in a war against america. a b-1 lancer taking off from diego garcia in the indian ocean can be a threat to pekin or moscow. an sm-3 waiting to be fired from the deck of an arleigh burke class destroyer off the coast of iceland can be a threat to a civilian satellite or a military satellite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3

What is the largest air force in the world?
The US Air Force, of course, with 5,369 aircraft.
What is the second largest air force in the world? Chinese air force? Russian air force?
The second largest air force in the world is the US Navy with 4,012 aircraft.
Today, the term “supercarrier” is not used by any navy as an official classification name and is used by the media to describe the largest and most advanced aircraft carriers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy#:~:text=It has 299 deployable combat,as of Jul 18, 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier#Supercarrier

The ultimate example of these supercarriers are the American-built ones.
the uss enterprise, launched in november 1961, was a kitty hawk class aircraft carrier, but unlike other kitty hawk class ships before it, it was nuclear powered. the 95,000-ton enterprise was the first supercarrier with a nuclear reactor, but the uss nimitz, launched in 1967, brought the capability gap between the us navy, already the most powerful in the world, and the rest of the world to an absurd level. nimitz-class nuclear aircraft carriers have been in service for 55 years. the nimitz class replaced the kitty hawk class, the first example being the uss gerald r. ford, which entered service on june 22, 2017. the ford gerald r. ford-class ships will also replace the nimitz class.
The Americans have 10 nimitz-class and 1 gerald r. ford class and 11 nuclear-powered supercarriers.
These ships are more than 330 meters long and weigh more than 100,000 tons.
an American supercarrier carries a fleet of 44 fighters (f/a-18e/f super hornet and f-35c), 8 mh-60s helicopters, 5 e-2 hawkeye command, control and early warning aircraft, 2 cmv-22b tiltrotors, 5 ea-18g growler electronic warfare aircraft and 11 mh-60r helicopters.

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an average of 6,000 people are on board an American supercarrier at sea. 3,200 of them are the personnel responsible for running the ship itself, from deck maintenance and repair to cooking. the rest are the personnel of the air fleet that the ship hosts, from air traffic controllers to pilots.
These ships were equipped with two rim-162 essm launcher platforms. rim-162 missiles can reach speeds of over 4900 kilometers per hour, have a maximum range of more than 50 kilometers, were developed to intercept supersonic anti-ship missiles and aircraft, but with the necessary engagement mode, they can also be used against surface targets, i.e. other ships.
2 mk-144 launchers each carrying 21 rim-116 rolling airframe missiles, 3 phalanx ciws, 4 25mm mark 38 weapon systems and 4 m2 browning; While destroying kamikaze drones and unguided rockets advancing on it in the Arabian Sea, as the USS Carney destroyed, while destroying supersonic anti-ship missiles coming at it on the one hand, while destroying an Iranian navy, the F-18 squadron that has taken off from its deck can end a naval battle with the Chinese navy 900 km away in the middle of the Indian Ocean before it even starts thanks to the agm-158 LRM stealth anti-ship missiles.

https://www.twz.com/uss-carney-shoots-down-missiles-drones-fired-from-yemen
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/cont...ts/business-area-landing/Fast-Facts-LRASM.pdf

a US aircraft carrier has a maximum speed of 56 kilometers per hour and can travel from Norfolk, Virginia, to the Middle East in just one week. they have unlimited range, can travel more than 1,000 kilometers per day, do not need access to land bases that could become unusable in a crisis, and can strike hundreds of targets on land and at sea every day for months.
supercarriers sail with carrier strike groups. while the flagships of carrier strike groups are supercarriers, these formations consist of a ticonderoga-class missile cruiser, two arleigh burke-class destroyers, a los angeles-class submarine and a supply ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga-class_cruiser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles-class_submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-class_fast_combat_support_ship

7 years ago, in october 2016, the houthis shot down a ship belonging to the united arab emirates. this ship, built by an australian company for the us, was later donated to the uae. the explosion in the video, which could have had catastrophic consequences, is only a partial and old demonstration of the capability of the iran-backed houthis. and more importantly, it shows that the uss carney, an arleigh burke class destroyer, did a very successful job.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/2/yemen-houthis-claim-attack-on-uae-military-vessel

carney destroyed 4 cruise missiles and 15 drones on October 19, 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Carney

arleigh burke class destroyers and ticonderoga class cruisers, unlike aircraft carriers, have artillery systems, cruise missiles such as bgm-109 tomahawk and rum-139 vl-asroc, anti-submarine missiles, missile and air defense systems such as rim-174 and rim-161 standard missile 3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUM-139_VL-ASROC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-174_Standard_ERAM

rim-161s contain an exoatmospheric kill vehicle, or ekv, and can shoot down satellites and intercontinental missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost
https://www.twz.com/37685/the-navy-...ot-down-an-intercontinental-ballistic-missile

cruisers and destroyers, which are part of carrier strike groups, do not only protect aircraft carriers. they also protect the territory of US allies within the aegis combat system, which includes other cruisers and destroyers of the same class but not part of carrier strike groups. they operate as sea-based variants of the early warning radar ecosystem of the gmd missile defense system on the us mainland, which spans the entire planet, from england and california to alaska and poland, where a ticonderoga class cruiser escorting an aircraft carrier fleet a few kilometers off the coast of isral bombing libya could shoot down a russian missile fired from chelyabinsk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Combat_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Phased_Array_Radar_System#/media/File:PAVE_PAWS&BMEWS.svg
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/08...r-ready-to-plug-in-at-northcom-within-months/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...d#/media/File:GBI_from_PL_Cannot_Catch_Ru.gif

While one carrier strike strike group is spewing death all over Iran, from thermal power plants to tankers, others may collide with China in the South Pacific, another may hunt Russian submarines in the Baltic Sea, another may shoot down satellites and missiles in the Atlantic.

America can do all of these - at the same time.
anyone who understands a little geopolitics knows that the United States not only possesses a firepower so massive, uninterrupted and accurate that no other civilization has ever possessed it, but that it can take that firepower across oceans to the doorstep of other civilizations. in the event of a global conflict, nowhere in the world will be able to produce as many jets, ships, air-to-air missiles as on US soil.

But when a military expert is asked about the most important advantage it has over its enemies, the answer is connectivity.


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What does that mean?

'’the mentality that founded the soviets thought that the industrial society mode of production of the early 20th century was the end of history. huge factories, millions of workers with jobs and homes, collective surplus-value squeezing with ideological gas worked up to a point. in this context, an extremely poor and backward country like russia became a superpower in 20-30 years.
but if you study technology, industrial organization, economic geography, etc., I think you will better understand why the soviets didn't work in the long run. because capitalism continued to transform after the fordist model that emerged at the beginning of the 20th century and is still transforming today.

What the continuation of this transformation has brought about is that as the US physical ecosystem of tens of trillions of dollars, millions of patents, billions of tons of material has continued to evolve, it has created a digital ecosystem.
command and control with uninterrupted, real-time data transmission.

31 years ago in the Persian Gulf,

While transferring data to LCD screens in the cockpits of ah-64 apache helicopters from inside mh-53js, awacs planes transfer data to f-15s, f-16s and f-18s, gps guides cruise missiles, the digital ecosystem integrated into all this physical ecosystem put it ahead of the others.

Today, the US can hit every single warhead of a fired intercontinental nuclear missile.
Being able to see at night from the streets of Panama to the streets of Bagdad and mark targets with the infrared laser of your weapon was like a superpower.

But now America's enemies have this equipment.

Americans today have made this connectivity even more versatile.


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When you integrate the android team awareness kit (atak) into the an/pvs-31 night vision device, it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie or videogame. and this is being developed further.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Team_Awareness_Kit
https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/binocular-night-vision-device-bnvd-an-pvs-31


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https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-ivas-fielding-2022/

That is, from the xm-157 fire control system on the xm7 rifle of the US infantry in Taiwan, which can be called a miniature version of the ballistic computer of a main battle tank, to an early warning radar in Poland, this physical ecosystem is interconnected by a digital
ecosystem that never stops and never rests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM7_rifle

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In 2024, the US has ordered 72 fighters, 48 f-35a and 24 f-15ex eagle ii, the largest number since 1991. In 2025, the defense budget will increase by another $55 billion, but the planned goal is to raise defense spending by hundreds of billions of dollars to over $1 trillion, with 5 percent of GDP allocated to defense.

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/05...ic-jump-in-defense-spending-55b-more-in-fy25/

guam will have the most complex air defenses in the entire world by 2030.

https://www.twz.com/guams-airspace-set-to-be-most-defended-on-earth-in-new-plans

The US Navy is by far the largest navy in the world today.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/top-ten-navies-by-aggregate-displacement-1-january-2024-v0-v0rvat475pac1.png?s=c7b455f7ec9ac30be75bcd5d0b3370d697ef5f22&rdt=62540

In terms of tonnage, it is larger than the sum of the next 5 navies. it is not more than twice as large as the sum of the navies of the entire planet as it was at the end of the second world war, but in terms of capability, the difference between the navies of the USA and the rest of the countries is absurd, especially the unrep (underway replenishment) capability of the US Navy is more than the sum of all the navies of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underway_replenishment

Cruise missiles are undoubtedly one of the most frightening anti-ship weapons. nowadays, cruise missiles are not carried by bombers like bombs, but by systems called “rotary launchers”. the system in the image is from the boeing b-52, the b-1 lancer also has this system.
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However, the Russian Tu-160 bomber has a similar system. However, due to the maintenance costs of the Tu-160, Russia uses Tu-95ms aircraft to strike Ukraine.
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The next level in these systems is rapid dragon.

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this system makes it possible to fire cruise missiles such as the agm-158 jassm agm-158c lrasm from cargo pallet modules and turns transport aircraft such as the c-17 globemaster iii into gunships capable of carrying dozens of jassms, making a transport aircraft many times more lethal than the tu-160. a tu-160 can carry 6 cruise missiles, a b-1 lancer can carry 8 cruise missiles, while a c-17 rapid dragon can carry 45 cruise missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_Dragon_(missile_system)

Considering the number of C-17 aircraft in the hands of the US, the ability to maintain/repair and produce C-17s, and the range of the jassm-xr version of the agm-158, it can be better understood what a terrible advantage the rapid dragon and the capability it brings to the US on this planet.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dece...oyment-us-militarys-rapid-dragon-jensen-j2tkc

the US has 50,000 troops in Japan and 28,500 in South Korea. As I said before, we can argue that the US is already by far the largest military and economic power in the world, or how the armed forces from Diego Garcia and England to South Korea and Iraq will evolve if the US switches to a war economy, or that Boeing's 50-ton, unmanned, autonomous Orca submarines are a bigger problem for the Chinese than the US's unmanned aerial vehicles such as the RQ-180, MQ-25 and MQ-20 Sea Avenger,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...h-drone-appears-to-be-operational-near-china/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-20_Avenger#Sea_Avenger
https://asiatimes.com/2023/12/behold-orca-us-navys-robotic-sub-built-for-drone-swarms/

but the most absurd advantage is the logistical capability.
80 years ago, the US landed on an atoll in Ulithi without a single pier and in less than a year turned it into the busiest naval base on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulithi

If the Chinese air navy and air force suffer terrible losses - unlike the US - they will never get back to where they were before they suffered those losses.
Now let's talk about unconventional capabilities.
The first thing that needs to be mentioned in this regard is what I wrote before; in this ecosystem, which extends from Poland and Alaska to land-based radars in Guam and from there to the combat systems of NATO and its allies, the sm-3 system, which shot down an ICBM warhead in 2019, is not the ultimate exoatmospheric kill vehicle platform in US service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost
https://www.army.mil/article/219788...t_significant_test_in_missile_defense_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3

the most effective weapon system against ballistic missiles, ekvs' dominant platform in american service is the gbi ([ground-based interceptor ground-based interceptor]). the us has 44 gbi systems and the plan is to have 64. however, the program aimed at putting a more advanced version of the gbi into service has been liquidated and lockheed martin won the tender for the program to put an even more advanced version into service. From 2026 onwards, the United States will further extend its unrivaled lead in this field and will deploy systems that carry more than one EKV. the People's Republic of China, like Russia, lacks less than a quarter of a quarter of such a defense capability against intercontinental ballistic missiles, both on land and at sea.

https://breakingdefense.com/2019/08/pentagon-cancels-multi-billion-boeing-missile-defense-program/
https://news.lockheedmartin.com/202...in-to-provide-its-Next-Generation-Interceptor

The next generation interceptor, like gbi and aegis, is integrated not only into the early warning systems of nato and its allies that stretch across the planet, across oceans and continents, but also into systems hundreds of kilometers above the earth's surface, and just as the us is now monitoring every Russian icbm garrison 24/7, so too is china's icm silo construction and every element of mass destruction, from nuclear submarines to command and control headquarters, under constant surveillance.
The total number of nuclear weapons possessed by the People's Republic of China is slightly less than one tenth that of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-Based_Infrared_System
https://fas.org/publication/a-closer-look-at-chinas-missile-silo-construction/

China is inferior to the United States in every factor, such as the number of ICBMs, the number of SLBMs, the accuracy of the warheads, etc.

https://fas.org/initiative/status-world-nuclear-forces/

One of China's biggest disadvantages in such a war is that it lacks the geography of a country like the United States, which borders the oceans by thousands of kilometers.
when the cold war turned into a hot war, the USSR needed to be able to hang the gap of gıuk (g)reenland (i)celand (u)united (k)ingdom to get out of the baltic sea so that half of its navy would not be destroyed.

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Today, China is in a more disadvantageous position than the USSR and Russia. no, not because it is not bordered by the Barents Sea and the Pacific Ocean.
only some parts of the South China Sea are deep enough to operate nuclear submarines. because the shallowness of the sea in the rest of the territorial waters makes Chinese submarines extremely detectable. this is a huge geographical disadvantage for China.


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One of the privileges of the US being the greatest economic, military and innovation power, and not being subject to physical limits, is that it can achieve a capability that it lacks in a much, much shorter time than other powers.
when iraq invaded kuwait on august 2, 1990, the us began planning an air campaign against iraq. it was unclear whether the blu-109 would be sufficient to destroy the iraqi bunkers. iraq had established defense industrial ties with east germany and yugoslavia. yugoslavia had built many bunkers in iraq in the late 1970s and early 80s, and the bunkers were both high quality and built in large quantities.
estimates indicated that the gbu-24 could penetrate the earth enough to reach these bunkers, but it would be inadequate against the deepest bunkers (those containing command and control centers), which were 15 meters underground.
Many ideas were discussed, from an unmanned hypersonic vehicle to a super-alloyed version of the blu-109, but these would take months to develop, and the US needed a weapon capable of destroying the Iraqi command centers immediately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-109_bomb
https://www.refworld.org/reference/countryrep/icg/2002/en/33264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-24_Paveway_III

It was then decided to use the barrel of the 203mm M110 howitzer as a bomb body, and the US; It took two (2) weeks for the US to design, prototype, test, deploy and operationalize the bomb that would destroy the command and control bunker, the heart of a series of bunkers at the base, which included a military airport, a facility capable of producing 1,000 barrels a year, a maintenance and repair center for scud missiles and t-54/55/62 tanks, and facilities capable of producing t-72, t-72 armor. Saddam's most complex bunker was destroyed with a single bomb and Iraq signed a ceasefire agreement the next day.
the bomb cut through the floor like butter and exploded inside the bunker, killing everyone. saddam's most complex bunker was destroyed by a single bomb and iraq signed a ceasefire agreement the next day.
the reason I mentioned this US superiority was that just because the US doesn't have a conventional weapon that can penetrate the three strait dams right now doesn't mean that it won't still have one a month after the war starts. it could do it with super bunker busters that are being developed right now and are scheduled to enter service in the early 2030s, it could do it with optimized versions of some of the older “things”.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/05/bunkers-and-bunkerbusting-in-2030-with.html
https://nukecompendium.com/hellbender/

China has energy limits, the US does not. even in this state, not destroyed and not in active conflict, China lags behind the US not only in defense but also in technological innovation in civilian industry

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-64143602

Unlike the United States, China does not have operational systems capable of simultaneously destroying these threats, from ICBM warheads to satellites, both from ships and land, from Alaska and Poland to Diego Garcia and Japan.
China has less than a tenth of the number of nuclear/thermonuclear weapons of the United States, and even fewer deployed strategic warheads.

At no point in its history has China conducted nuclear/chemical/biological weapons programs as large and sophisticated as those of the United States, nor does it have today a quarter of the defensive systems and NBC capabilities against these weapons that the
United States has.

In the event of total war, China will not be able to produce as many fighters, seeker warheads, aircraft carriers, autonomous submarines and, more importantly, as much oil as the United States.
the depth of China's territorial waters - especially its nuclear submarines - makes its navy even more vulnerable and target-prone than the Russian navy

At the beginning I illustrated it with a theoretical scenario based on argentina and tungsten.
Of course, in reality Argentina has tungsten ores.
News from December 1, 1941: Argentina will sell all the tungsten it mines to the USA.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/271473561?browse=ndp:browse/title/D/title/1852/1941/12/01/page/30474572/article/271473561

This is the difference between a superpower and a hyperpower. while nazi germany was experiencing a tungsten shortage, the us was getting even more, even though it was wallowing in tungsten thanks to the resources on its own mainland. while the resources
and production on its own territory were already providing more explosive production than anyone else, the us was still getting even more from chile.

it will be exactly the same in a china us war. the us will be able to go and use the whole planet as its own territory like in the second world war, even though the us is not limited by the physical limits that china is already subjected to.

DNR:

Nuclear, chemical, biological, conventional, limited or total.... china is at a disadvantage in every single factor in this potential war, the outcome of this war is known before it even starts, just like in world war 1, world war 2 and the cold war.

America is the greatest power in human history.

both get nuked so free rediation
 
both get nuked so free rediation
The world will not collapse in a nuclear holocaust. Yes, I know that such scenarios are much more exciting for uninformed people like you, but this is not the reality.

The US is unrivaled in both the number and accuracy of ICBMs and in anti-ICBM technologies.

The most advanced anti-ICBM systems are EKVs, the first prototypes of which were developed in the 80s, and the Russians and Chinese do not have this system. They use more primitive defense systems.

The most advanced early warning systems globally are in the US and they monitor every Russian, every Chinese base every second. If China fires an ICBM, what will happen is that it will be destroyed by the Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle before it leaves Chinese airspace.

If China and Russia dare to wage war or fire nuclear warheads, what will happen is total annihilation of them.
 
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The world will not collapse in a nuclear holocaust. Yes, I know that such scenarios are much more exciting for uninformed people like you, but this is not the reality.

The US is unrivaled in both the number and accuracy of ICBMs and in anti-ICBM technologies.

The most advanced anti-ICBM systems are EKVs, the first prototypes of which were developed in the 80s, and the Russians and Chinese do not have this system. They use more primitive defense systems.

The most advanced early warning systems globally are in the US and they monitor every Russian, every Chinese base every second. If China fires an ICBM, what will happen is that it will be destroyed by the Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle before it leaves Chinese airspace.

If China and Russia dare to wage war or fire nuclear warheads, what will happen is total annihilation of them.
might be funny
 
I'm here for ''dnr'' comments and videos..

And back on topic, once WW3 starts, there will be a nuclear war that will destroy the entire planet. There is no winner, because China and Russia can never magically disappear, like in a Marvel movie where the enemy just disappears and everyone is happy, so US or any other country can't win. We are far too interdependent on each other, especially in terms of private companies. Politicians instead just bark a narrative to win votes but will never do shit..
what exactly is the reason to go to war to china, view it as a 'big baddie from marvel' or shit like that again?

'nooo my billionaire paedophile elite wont be the richest in the world anymore nooo destroy china before it happens'

bruh its the equivalent of going ER because youre not the richest boy in town
 
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Jews are the Real Life Uchihas

"from where I stand, everybody else is Mediocre"

"compared to a Uchiha, even a prodigy is ordinary"

- Uchiha Sauke
I like this analogy :lul:
 
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The most advanced early warning systems globally are in the US and they monitor every Russian, every Chinese base every second. If China fires an ICBM, what will happen is that it will be destroyed by the Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle before it leaves Chinese airspace.
the US does not have such technologies. They are generally quite far behind in the technological aspect.

Russia has missiles whose speed exceeds the speed of sound by 10 times, they can not be shot down. And they can be loaded with nuclear weapons.
 
the US does not have such technologies. They are generally quite far behind in the technological aspect.
Nice joke. LMAO.

Russia has missiles whose speed exceeds the speed of sound by 10 times, they can not be shot down. And they can be loaded with nuclear weapons.
10x speed of sound equals 12355 km/h while EKVs speed is approx. 40.000 km/h. How uninformed you can be?
 
Nice joke. LMAO.
No, it's not a joke. These savages have a freight train derailing every week, the US is stuck in the 19th century

10x speed of sound equals 12355 km/h while EKVs speed is approx. 40.000 km/h. How uninformed you can be?
what you're saying even sounds absurd.

American missile defenses can barely shoot down conventional missiles, and I don't say anything about those that are 10 times faster than sound.
Among russian and north korean ballistic missiles they only shot down 4.5% in Ukraine. JFL
And they claim that their missile defense is THE BEST IN THE WORLD:lul:

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shit, I lied a bit. The speed of Russian missiles is not 10 times the speed of sound, but 20.
The Russian missile can reach speeds in excess of 20 sound speeds(about 24,000 km / h), making it a very difficult target to intercept.

The missile can also fly along a non-standard trajectory, including maneuvers in interatmospheric space, which complicates forecasting its path and missile defense reaction time.

In addition to its high level of speed and maneuverability, the Russian missiles can be equipped with a missile defense bypass system, which makes it even more difficult to intercept. For example, a missile can use various ways to bypass a missile defense system, such as using hypersonic cruise warheads or attacking trajectories using low orbits.
Modern US missile defense systems, such as GMD (Ground-based Midcourse Defense), THAAD, Aegis, and others, are not yet capable of effectively intercepting intercontinental missiles with such characteristics as those of the Russian. Their abilities are limited to intercepting medium-and short-range missiles or in the initial phase of flight.

Intercepting a missile like the Russian missiles requires not only the system's high speed, but also the ability to accurately calculate and track maneuvering warheads in real time. At the moment, US missile defense technologies may not provide sufficient interception reliability for this type of threat.
The Russian missile is capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads, which can be separated and directed at different targets (multi-head warhead-MGR). This creates an additional burden on missile defense systems, as you need to intercept several objects at the same time.

The missile can also be equipped with maneuvering warheads (MIRVs — Multiple Independently Targetable Reentry Vehicles), which can change their trajectory, making them even harder to intercept.

 
shit, I lied a bit. The speed of Russian missiles is not 10 times the speed of sound, but 20.
The Russian missile can reach speeds in excess of 20 sound speeds(about 24,000 km / h), making it a very difficult target to intercept.

The missile can also fly along a non-standard trajectory, including maneuvers in interatmospheric space, which complicates forecasting its path and missile defense reaction time.

In addition to its high level of speed and maneuverability, the Russian missiles can be equipped with a missile defense bypass system, which makes it even more difficult to intercept. For example, a missile can use various ways to bypass a missile defense system, such as using hypersonic cruise warheads or attacking trajectories using low orbits.
Modern US missile defense systems, such as GMD (Ground-based Midcourse Defense), THAAD, Aegis, and others, are not yet capable of effectively intercepting intercontinental missiles with such characteristics as those of the Russian. Their abilities are limited to intercepting medium-and short-range missiles or in the initial phase of flight.

Intercepting a missile like the Russian missiles requires not only the system's high speed, but also the ability to accurately calculate and track maneuvering warheads in real time. At the moment, US missile defense technologies may not provide sufficient interception reliability for this type of threat.
The Russian missile is capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads, which can be separated and directed at different targets (multi-head warhead-MGR). This creates an additional burden on missile defense systems, as you need to intercept several objects at the same time.

The missile can also be equipped with maneuvering warheads (MIRVs — Multiple Independently Targetable Reentry Vehicles), which can change their trajectory, making them even harder to intercept.

Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles are the most effective anti ICBM systems and they reach approx. 40.000 km/h.
Nigga still says muhh 24.000.

What are you talking about JFL. It's 2024, and the anti-ballistic missile system that protects Moscow and all of Russia uses the same principle that the Americans used in the 1950s


The US has the capability to destroy the MIRVs.

 
Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles are the most effective anti ICBM systems and they reach approx. 40.000 km/h.
Nigga still says muhh 24.000.

What are you talking about JFL. It's 2024, and the anti-ballistic missile system that protects Moscow and all of Russia uses the same principle that the Americans used in the 1950s


The US has the capability to destroy the MIRVs.

I don't even think they had any missile defenses in the 1950s. They were living in caves at the time, starving to death, if you remember the "great American Depression"
And where did you get this fake information that the speed of the US missile defense system is about 40 thousand kilometers per hour? This is nonsense. Their speed is about 12,350 km / h
 
I don't even think they had any missile defenses in the 1950s. They were living in caves at the time, starving to death, if you remember the "great American Depression"
And where did you get this fake information that the speed of the US missile defense system is about 40 thousand kilometers per hour? This is nonsense. Their speed is about 12,350 km / h

Speed of projectile: roughly 10 km/s (35.405 km/h)

While the pentagon did not approve the serial production of the multiple kill vehicle and redesigned kill vehicle in the tenders opened and canceled the programs, it demanded an even more advanced EKV and Boeing launched the next generation interceptor program.

 
US will probably win a raw war due to sheer military power and tech, but if the war becomes largely ideological and rooted in the peoples of both sides then China has a chance of winning.

US people are absolutely retarded compared to Chinese. US kids are brain rotting on tiktok and thinking of what they should come out as, whilst Chinese are reading Art of War from like early elementary school, and taught to be Patriotic man to the motherland :lul:.
 
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crazy insanely detailed good patriotic thread but then i remembered that israel has a plan that if they are about to get destroyed they will nuke the whole entire world so whatever ill just go back to Christ in heaven none of this even matters
 
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USA has reversed engineered alien technology and has secret weapons way ahead of modern capabilities. It's over for China. It didn't even begun for the ricecels.
 
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USA has reversed engineered alien technology and has secret weapons way ahead of modern capabilities. It's over for China. It didn't even begun for the ricecels.
saar can i get an alien irl face morpher pls saar
 
CHAD is undefeated vs CHANG

 
Russia and Iran will supply China the oil, at a premium but China will able to supply itself. Russia and China are the ones in the defensive, they are not the ones who have to find a way to supply their spread out navy with oil.

A lot of the American technologies you mentioned are overrated, don’t exists or China and Russia have them too

Regardless, I don’t even think China will have to enter the war
 
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Russia and Iran will supply China the oil, at a premium but China will able to supply itself. Russia and China are the ones in the defensive, they are not the ones who have to find a way to supply their spread out navy with oil.

A lot of the American technologies you mentioned are overrated, don’t exists or China and Russia have them too

Regardless, I don’t even think China will have to enter the war
Cope harder.
 
china is far ahead of us in techs that will need higher demand in future like ev batteries, solar pannels and etc. and will dominate high tech more in future.

also us has butally lost its relative power in military. even iran and north korea countered it with just missiles, drones and nukes. let alone china and russia.

only thing us has left is the dollar which brics countries are finding ways around it.
 
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china is far ahead of us in techs that will need higher demand in future like ev batteries, solar pannels and etc. and will dominate high tech more in future.
Nice joke. Even Japan and Korea surprasses China in semiconductor market share which is most crucial in 21st century

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also us has butally lost its relative power in military. even iran and north korea countered it with just missiles, drones and nukes. let alone china and russia.
JFL at this part. You are trolling at this point. I wont bother answering this. You dont know shit about military tech. Cope harder next time.
 
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