Why wouldn’t bone pressing work?

[pheenon]

Assuming your facial bones can adapt to cyclical stress put on it, ignoring the logistics and how much you would need to press a day could it possible work?

 

[LukaKhang]

ignoring the logistics

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

Assuming your facial bones can adapt to cyclical stress put on it, ignoring the logistics and how much you would need to press a day could it possible work?

i mean, your bones are hard, like harder than stones or whatever, and theyre fused shut, so if you could mold a rock like playdoh then you can mold your face i guess, take it with a grain of salt though.

 

[LukaKhang]

Doesn't work. mark as solution

 

[pheenon]

I said that as it would be hard to apply in saying if you were able to would it work so why dosent it

 

[pheenon]

i mean, your bones are hard, like harder than stones or whatever, and theyre fused shut, so if you could mold a rock like playdoh then you can mold your face i guess, take it with a grain of salt though.

It’s not about molding them bonesmashing dosent work due to its inability to apply cyclical pressure in a manner which induces bone hypertrophy it fractures the bone instead, but bone pressing if you somehow did it while sleeping or a few hours a day possibly could

 

[LukaKhang]

I said that as it would be hard to apply in saying if you were able to would it work so why dosent it

no
even if you assume bones “respond to stress,” facial bones won’t reshape the way people imagine.

Wolff’s law not equal to “bones can be sculpted anytime.”
It means bones adapt internally, not externally reshape.

 

[pheenon]

no
even if you assume bones “respond to stress,” facial bones won’t reshape the way people imagine.

Wolff’s law not equal to “bones can be sculpted anytime.”
It means bones adapt internally, not externally reshape.

Yeah but through pressure being put on it, basket ball players develop develop thicker shins due to the impact of running and jumping

 

[ase]

Did you see those hydraulic press videos with teeth? I think bones would have a lot of density as well.

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

It’s not about molding them bonesmashing dosent work due to its inability to apply cyclical pressure in a manner which induces bone hypertrophy it fractures the bone instead, but bone pressing if you somehow did it while sleeping or a few hours a day possibly could

i mean, face pulling with headgear and marpe is real to be fair, and side sleeping DOES create asymmetry so your onto something, marpe and headgear is fixed into your bones though

honestly you could mabye research this and make a thread that would be cool, i dont know if a facepulling device would work without being fixed into your bones tho

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

It’s not about molding them bonesmashing dosent work due to its inability to apply cyclical pressure in a manner which induces bone hypertrophy it fractures the bone instead, but bone pressing if you somehow did it while sleeping or a few hours a day possibly could

so yeah i think and this is just a theory but i think if you were to mold your face for hours at a time mabye even while sleeping or something it could work.
if side sleeping makes your face so lopsided why wouldnt a face molder work or wtv.

 

[pheenon]

i mean, face pulling with headgear and marpe is real to be fair, and side sleeping DOES create asymmetry so your onto something, marpe and headgear is fixed into your bones though

honestly you could mabye research this and make a thread that would be cool, i dont know if a facepulling device would work without being fixed into your bones tho

It wouldn’t work and the assymetry is soft tissue shifting not bone

 

[LukaKhang]

i mean, face pulling with headgear and marpe is real to be fair, and side sleeping DOES create asymmetry so your onto something, marpe and headgear is fixed into your bones though

honestly you could mabye research this and make a thread that would be cool, i dont know if a facepulling device would work without being fixed into your bones tho

nope sleeping on your side doesn't creat asymmetry. it is cope I already made a post about it

 

[LukaKhang]

Yeah but through pressure being put on it, basket ball players develop develop thicker shins due to the impact of running and jumping

The bone does not change shape or position.
It just reinforces itself internally.
also stress makes bones stronger, not repositioned it.

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

It wouldn’t work and the assymetry is soft tissue shifting not bone

i side slept and it fucked me up, i have a slightly uneven canine fossa, and slightly uneven zygos, my mandible is also slightly askew and my gonions and ramus are slightly off.

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

nope sleeping on your side doesn't creat asymmetry. it is cope I already made a post about it

side sleeping does create asymmetry and i sadly know first hand.

 

[pheenon]

The bone does not change shape or position.
It just reinforces itself internally.
also stress makes bones stronger, not repositioned it.

I’m talking about thickening and it’s a fact that load bearing bones will thicken when used and reabsorb when not

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

The bone does not change shape or position.
It just reinforces itself internally.
also stress makes bones stronger, not repositioned it.

wait i remember you i remember your post on getting kicked out, are you doing good?

 

[LukaKhang]

side sleeping does create asymmetry and i sadly know first hand.

No it doesn't. https://looksmax.org/threads/sleep-on-your-back-or-your-side.1785581/

it is your bone already have that asymmetry in the first place due to chewing and dental problems.

 

[LukaKhang]

wait i remember you i remember your post on getting kicked out, are you doing good?

no

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

no

sorry bro

 

[LukaKhang]

I’m talking about thickening and it’s a fact that load bearing bones will thicken when used and reabsorb when not

but you are ignoring the logistics here. Would you be able to find a load and an energy sources strong enough to thicken your bone instead of just breaking it.

 

[mohito]

Any injury or sustained stress on bone tissue may trigger some degree of remodelling however this process is limited to restoring the bone’s original structure. Such trauma cannot be expected to produce any visible aesthetic changes

Trauma or pressure will not cause a bone to grow larger than its existing size, regardless of whether atrophy occurs right away

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328218368/figure/fig3/AS:11431281239140576@1714220285306/The-five-stages-of-bone-remodelling.tif

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[accutanefuckedme]

i mean, face pulling with headgear and marpe is real to be fair, and side sleeping DOES create asymmetry so your onto something, marpe and headgear is fixed into your bones though

honestly you could mabye research this and make a thread that would be cool, i dont know if a facepulling device would work without being fixed into your bones tho

marpe or mse, which one would be better?

 

[LukaKhang]

Any injury or sustained stress on bone tissue may trigger some degree of remodelling however this process is limited to restoring the bone’s original structure. Such trauma cannot be expected to produce any visible aesthetic changes

Trauma or pressure will not cause a bone to grow larger than its existing size, regardless of whether atrophy occurs right away

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328218368/figure/fig3/AS:11431281239140576@1714220285306/The-five-stages-of-bone-remodelling.tif

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why are you stealing my solution
GRRRR

 

[LukaKhang]

Any injury or sustained stress on bone tissue may trigger some degree of remodelling however this process is limited to restoring the bone’s original structure. Such trauma cannot be expected to produce any visible aesthetic changes

Trauma or pressure will not cause a bone to grow larger than its existing size, regardless of whether atrophy occurs right away

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328218368/figure/fig3/AS:11431281239140576@1714220285306/The-five-stages-of-bone-remodelling.tif

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[pheenon]

but you are ignoring the logistics here. Would you be able to find a load and an energy sources strong enough to thicken your bone instead of just breaking it.

I mean orthodontic forces aren’t too strong but yes I do understand the difference in that it’s able to distribute the force better but idk just food for thought, if I were to do it it would be for my zygos

 

[LukaKhang]

I mean orthodontic forces aren’t too strong but yes I do understand the difference in that it’s able to distribute the force better but idk just food for thought, if I were to do it it would be for my zygos

ok then mark my answer as the solution. it doesn't work

 

[pheenon]

Any injury or sustained stress on bone tissue may trigger some degree of remodelling however this process is limited to restoring the bone’s original structure. Such trauma cannot be expected to produce any visible aesthetic changes

Trauma or pressure will not cause a bone to grow larger than its existing size, regardless of whether atrophy occurs right away

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328218368/figure/fig3/AS:11431281239140576@1714220285306/The-five-stages-of-bone-remodelling.tif

Make sure to mark this post as solution, it's the check mark on my right

Yeah this should be true for singular fracture trauma but if force didn’t cause bones to grow then basketball players and atheletes wouldn’t develop (slightly) thicker bone

 

[mohito]

Yeah this should be true for singular fracture trauma but if force didn’t cause bones to grow then basketball players and atheletes wouldn’t develop (slightly) thicker bone

That's true but that would be bone density, not bone mass (which holds aesthetic value)

 

[pheenon]

That's true but that would be bone density, not bone mass (which holds aesthetic value)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32154945/ This is a study showing an increase in the cortical thickness of the bone the outer shell of it.

 

[mohito]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32154945/ This is a study showing an increase in the cortical thickness of the bone the outer shell of it.

Bone remodeling in response to things like training hard follows means that bone adapts its structure to better resist the load. Changes in thickness occurred within the genetic growth limits of that certain population. U can't apply this study to a practice like bone pressing, it simply won't give u the desired results

 

[pheenon]

Bone remodeling in response to things like training hard follows means that bone adapts its structure to better resist the load. Changes in thickness occurred within the genetic growth limits of that certain population. U can't apply this study to a practice like bone pressing, it simply won't give u the desired results

Honestly I just want a way to grow my zygos without implants

 

[mohito]

Honestly I just want a way to grow my zygos without implants

You can still get the temporary swelling effect if u want. You can do it everytime before you're going out

 

[pheenon]

You can still get the temporary swelling effect if u want. You can do it everytime before you're going out

Yeah I will I just hate change that isn’t semi permanent it dosent please me that’s why I don’t fraud

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

marpe or mse, which one would be better?

Marpe and mse are only for extremely narrow palate's and you should never get marpe unless you medically need it for breathing, they also cost up to 10k dollars

 

[accutanefuckedme]

Marpe and mse are only for extremely narrow palate's and you should never get marpe unless you medically need it for breathing, they also cost up to 10k dollars

Why not for aesthetics?

 

[negativ_canthalshit]

Why not for aesthetics?

Iff you don't need it it will make your ipd bad or face to wide I'm pretty sure.

 

[accutanefuckedme]

Iff you don't need it it will make your ipd bad or face to wide I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, I get it. But I mainly want it for zygo protrusion and I’ve heard it increases ipd by like 1mm only.