Will bone smacshing help more at a young age?

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Should i start bone smashing at 14 years old?, and if so how do i do it properly?
 
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Should i start bone smashing at 14 years old?, and if so how do i do it properly?
control bone growth precisely via boneshmashing, that's total retardation. Might also thumb pull to get forward growth at this point :ROFLMAO:
 
Should i start bone smashing at 14 years old?, and if so how do i do it properly?
bro this shit making me feel like a dad, dont do this shit bro ur just a kid its free nervedamage and it wont turn u into some greekgod PLEASE do your research
 
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bro this shit making me feel like a dod, dont do this shit bro ur just a kid its free nervedamage and it wont turn u into some greekgod PLEASE do your research
if were being real though if he follows a correct schedule and does it correctly he will get improvement
 
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stop bonesmashing lil brochacho theres a thread here called pubertymaxing you will follow it like a bible and that's it
 
Thumb pulling works
average low IQ jester patel 13 yo fan.

there is no credible clinical evidence showing that “thumb pulling” can remodel the adult maxilla. What we do have is indirect evidence from well-studied fields that makes the claim very unlikely.


Here are the relevant lines of evidence.




1. Bone remodeling requires sustained, controlled forces


Craniofacial bones follow the Wolff's law: they adapt to continuous mechanical loading over time, not brief, irregular pressure.


  • Orthodontic tooth movement works because forces are applied 24/7 via appliances.
  • Typical effective forces are light but constant (on the order of ~0.5–1 N for teeth).

Evidence:


  • William M. Proffit et al., Contemporary Orthodontics — establishes that intermittent forces are far less effective than continuous forces.
  • Davidovitch Z. — biological basis of tooth movement requires sustained on periodontal ligament.

Thumb pulling = short, inconsistent, poorly directed force → not comparable.




2. Adult maxillary sutures are largely fused​


The idea of widening the palate manually ignores basic craniofacial biology.


  • The midpalatal suture progressively interdigitates and becomes resistant to expansion after adolescence.
  • In adults, skeletal expansion typically requires surgery (SARPE).

Evidence:
Angelieri F. et al. (2013) — classification of midpalatal suture maturation shows increasing fusion with age.

Melsen B. (1975) — histological study showing age-related ossification of sutures.

Rapid Palatal Expansion works predictably in children, not adults without surgical assistance.

👉 Your thumbs cannot overcome fused sutures.




3. Proven expansion methods use appliances, not hands


When expansion is done clinically:


  • Devices like Hyrax or MARPE apply precise, anchored forces.
  • Forces are distributed across teeth and bone with controlled vectors.

Evidence:

MARPE literature shows skeletal changes in adults only with anchorage and continuous activation.
Park Y.C. et al. — miniscrew anchorage improves skeletal expansion outcomes.

Thumb pulling has:

no anchorage
no force calibration
no directional control

So it cannot replicate these outcomes.




4. No peer-reviewed studies on thumb pulling


This is telling.

No randomized trials
No case series
No imaging-based evidence (CBCT, cephalometrics)

In contrast, orthodontics has decades of quantified data.


👉 When something supposedly “works” but leaves zero trace in scientific literature, you should pause.




5. Reported “results” are explainable without bone change​


Perceived improvements are likely due to:


  • Postural changes (head/neck/tongue)
  • Reduced facial fat
  • Lighting, angle, or lens distortion
  • Placebo / confirmation bias

These are well-known confounders in facial aesthetics. These guys who post before/after always fraud to some degree or their changes are relate to other reasons like puberty




Bottom line :​


  • Bone remodeling = slow, continuous, controlled force
  • Adult sutures = resistant to manual manipulation
  • Clinical expansion = engineered systems, not fingers
  • Scientific literature = silent on thumb pulling

So the burden of proof is upside down:
extraordinary claims (manual facial remodeling) with zero evidence.
 
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