Will Genioplasty SAVE me? (pics included)

[wonker187]

Hello Gents,

Background
I was wondering if sliding genio would help me ascend with some horizontal and vertical movements, maybe even widening if the surgeon is confident.

Bite
I have abit of a deep bite and an overbite as you can see in the pic.

The Rest
I know trimax is probably what i truly need because im too broke(bimax wouldnt cut it as my chin itself is also weak). So i have settled with trying to just fix the visual efforts and was wondering if genio would be a surgery you guys would approve of.

Reason for my post
The reason i am making this post is to get your guys’ opinion and to lwy me know if genio is the right approach and if its what would ascend me most.

Sincerely, Future Hardmaxxer

 

[key]

You've got serious malocclusion, if you're comfortable with orthognathic surgery then I'd highly suggest trimax, u look like a candidate for djs anyway

 

[wonker187]

You've got serious malocclusion, if you're comfortable with orthognathic surgery then I'd highly suggest trimax, u look like a candidate for djs anyway

Yeah i didnt think it was that bad. I thought i could get away with bsso alone to fix my malocclusion if ever needed since my maxilla isnt really recessed but thrn again could benefit from some ccw. I guess though visually only, would genio fix my shi?

 

[Aqualad]

I’m not knowledgeable on surgery but your maxilla already looks forward grown. I think if you fixed your mandible your life quality would 180. Good luck

 

[AustrianMogger]

Hello Gents,

Background
I was wondering if sliding genio would help me ascend with some horizontal and vertical movements, maybe even widening if the surgeon is confident.

Bite
I have abit of a deep bite and an overbite as you can see in the pic.

The Rest
I know trimax is probably what i truly need because im too broke(bimax wouldnt cut it as my chin itself is also weak). So i have settled with trying to just fix the visual efforts and was wondering if genio would be a surgery you guys would approve of.

Reason for my post
The reason i am making this post is to get your guys’ opinion and to lwy me know if genio is the right approach and if its what would ascend me most.

Sincerely, Future Hardmaxxer

Nope. You need much more. Probably trimax,and rhino

 

[recessedtexan]

Nope. You need much more. Probably trimax,and rhino

I don't think he needs a rhino. His nose looks fine and if he was to have a maxillary advancement it would help hide the slight hump he has

 

[wonker187]

I don't think he needs a rhino. His nose looks fine and if he was to have a maxillary advancement it would help hide the slight hump he has

Yeah Idk im not looking to be pro mogger. I just want to look abit above average. Time and money and risk involvement just to get a bimax seem unreasonable to me.

 

[fezzz]

Yeah Idk im not looking to be pro mogger. I just want to look abit above average. Time and money and risk involvement just to get a bimax seem unreasonable to me.

Have you gone to an orthodontist to see if your recession is bad enough to get insurance covered bimax?

 

[recessedtexan]

Yeah Idk im not looking to be pro mogger. I just want to look abit above average. Time and money and risk involvement just to get a bimax seem unreasonable to me.

Well genio will definitely massively improve your looks but you do look like you need BSSO though. But it's confusing because your overbite doesn't look that severe. Are you clenching your jaw in the last picture?

 

[wonker187]

Have you gone to an orthodontist to see if your recession is bad enough to get insurance covered bimax?

Yeah its not bad enough to get covered in Ireland. Irish Jaw genes are so chopped u need to >11mm overbite to be covered mine is about 6 or so

 

[wonker187]

Well genio will definitely massively improve your looks but you do look like you need BSSO though. But it's confusing because your overbite doesn't look that severe. Are you clenching your jaw in the last picture?

im clenching in all pictures, the reason i also think i have a weak chin aswell as mandible is because when i jut, my chin is still very recessed

 

[fezzz]

Yeah its not bad enough to get covered in Ireland. Irish Jaw genes are so chopped u need to >11mm overbite to be covered mine is about 6 or so

If you go to Mexico you can get bimax around 20k I would recommend softmaxxing for now and saving up for that.

 

[recessedtexan]

im clenching in all pictures, the reason i also think i have a weak chin aswell as mandible is because when i jut, my chin is still very recessed

Well if you want a correct assessment you shouldn't clench your jaw in the pictures you use lmao. You definitely need a bsso too then

 

[wonker187]

If you go to Mexico you can get bimax around 20k I would recommend softmaxxing for now and saving up for that.

Whats the benefits of a bimax vs a genio, speaking in terms of looks only how differently would they benefit me, ( also i have a gummy smile). I dont care asmuch about the actual health benefits, ill cross that bridge when real tmj comes along

 

[wonker187]

Well if you want a correct assessment you shouldn't clench your jaw in the pictures you use lmao. You definitely need a bsso too then

what should i fo instead?

 

[recessedtexan]

what should i fo instead?

what do you mean, instead of what ?

 

[wonker187]

what do you mean, instead of what ?

instead of clenching/closing my jaws

 

[recessedtexan]

instead of clenching/closing my jaws

I'm only talking about the pictures, you should've been relaxed. It's fine though. Just get an appointment with an ortho/OMFS as soon as you can

 

[wonker187]

I'm only talking about the pictures, you should've been relaxed. It's fine though. Just get an appointment with an ortho/OMFS as soon as you can

okay cool

 

[fezzz]

Whats the benefits of a bimax vs a genio, speaking in terms of looks only how differently would they benefit me, ( also i have a gummy smile). I dont care asmuch about the actual health benefits, ill cross that bridge when real tmj comes along

Bimax can reduce a gummy smile. It will also directly shorten the midface and fix lower jaw recession instead of just making the lower face longer. Genio can still improve attractiveness but it will be difficult to get a bimax afterwards if you choose so.

 

[LEFORT17]

Bimax can reduce a gummy smile. It will also directly shorten the midface and fix lower jaw recession instead of just making the lower face longer. Genio can still improve attractiveness but it will be difficult to get a bimax afterwards if you choose so.

wont shorten midface

 

[fezzz]

wont shorten midface

If you get lefort 1 + bsso it will

 

[LEFORT17]

If you get lefort 1 + bsso it will

another retard. why does everyone thinks a conventional bimax shortens midface

 

[recessedtexan]

another retard. why does everyone thinks a conventional bimax shortens midface

Wouldn't it lengthen the lower third of your face making the midface proportionally shorter?

 

[Evgeniy291]

Hello Gents,

Background
I was wondering if sliding genio would help me ascend with some horizontal and vertical movements, maybe even widening if the surgeon is confident.

Bite
I have abit of a deep bite and an overbite as you can see in the pic.

The Rest
I know trimax is probably what i truly need because im too broke(bimax wouldnt cut it as my chin itself is also weak). So i have settled with trying to just fix the visual efforts and was wondering if genio would be a surgery you guys would approve of.

Reason for my post
The reason i am making this post is to get your guys’ opinion and to lwy me know if genio is the right approach and if its what would ascend me most.

Sincerely, Future Hardmaxxer

Such good features but jaw ruins everything

 

[wonker187]

Such good features but jaw ruins everything

Such as? U got me curious now lol

 

[wonker187]

another retard. why does everyone thinks a conventional bimax shortens midface

If they did some ccw rotating to my maxilla would that not cause it to appear shorter, and less depressed and saggy? My midface isnt extremely horse face long, so i will if i did achieve a more pronounced 3D like midface it would all come to harmony

 

[SeiGun]

i dont know but, if you cut all your hair and mustache you would look like andrew tate

 

[wonker187]

i dont know but, if you cut all your hair and mustache you would look like andrew tate

I can see the vision

 

[Evgeniy291]

Such as? U got me curious now lol

Everything but the jaw

 

[wonker187]

Everything but the jaw

Damn, Bimax and try getting signed to vogue

 

[Curryfinder]

Dont think genio will work. Maybe genio + fat transer to the in the fold

trimax + supras + infras. I failed abit at the lips. btw I dont think supras is even need or worth it in your case

 

[wonker187]

Dont think genio will work. Maybe genio + fat transer to the in the fold
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trimax + supras + infras. I failed abit at the lips. btw I dont think supras is even need or worth it in your case
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Great morph, i findbasically no difference in the trimax morph in my midface. Also your correct with the infras, i heavily believe one day i may get them done as my eye area is my strongest feature just gets dragged back abit because of undereye area.