will socialization be brutalizing for me? (side profile)

[xlefort]

wasian, 16 years of age
if you read this post fully id really appreciate it.
(check other threads for my hardmaxxing plan)
this thread mainly pertains to my future social life and next two years of high school, but also to my side profile and its failos. please critique/rate. (i hate my side profile more than my front)

for context:
i'm extremely nd and couldn't socialize with people for the life of me until recently (a year or two ago).
puberty marginally unfucked my face, gave me a nice frame im somewhat proud of, and made me grow from 4'11 to 6'2, so now im treated as human and socializing has become much less burdensome despite my remaining elliot rodger school shooter phenotype.
my lack of interpersonal skills and my misanthropic tendencies were perpetuated by 5 years of near absolute isolation, as well as constant ridicule, belittlement, and disrespect whenever i left my shell.
the pressure of already entering my junior year made me realize i don't want to miss out on making any memories with some nt normies and experiencing fun times while high school still lasts. as a result, next year i'm transferring to a traditional in-person high school to help me actualize this goal of mine.
how do you guys recommend i approach my new social life? mannerisms to exhibit, high-roi softmaxxes, clothing styles to wear, general normie mindset to adopt, etc.
all tips would be greatly appreciated!

 

[7Azcendr7]

where is the recession?

 

[xlefort]

where is the recession?

in my maxilla and supras, but thats why i have the hair i do to cover my subhuman brow ridge

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

Dnrd
Never leave your cellar

 

[xlefort]

where is the recession?

also mirin pfp

 

[xlefort]

Dnrd
Never leave your cellar

its too late bro im already enrolled

 

[chudtotyrone]

Not one molecule
Attention whore

 

[xlefort]

Not one molecule
Attention whore

how am i an attention whore?

 

[chudtotyrone]

how am i an attention whore?

You obv look good

 

[xlefort]

You obv look good

thank you so much, that means so much to me unironically
should i remove the image, i really dont want validation, i want an objective rating + advice on high school

 

[copedcel]

wasian, 16 years of age
if you read this post fully id really appreciate it.
(check other threads for my hardmaxxing plan)
this thread mainly pertains to my future social life and next two years of high school, but also to my side profile and its failos. please critique/rate. (i hate my side profile more than my front)

for context:
i'm extremely nd and couldn't socialize with people for the life of me until recently (a year or two ago).
puberty marginally unfucked my face, gave me a nice frame im somewhat proud of, and made me grow from 4'11 to 6'2, so now im treated as human and socializing has become much less burdensome despite my remaining elliot rodger school shooter phenotype.
my lack of interpersonal skills and my misanthropic tendencies were perpetuated by 5 years of near absolute isolation, as well as constant ridicule, belittlement, and disrespect whenever i left my shell.
the pressure of already entering my junior year made me realize i don't want to miss out on making any memories with some nt normies and experiencing fun times while high school still lasts. as a result, next year i'm transferring to a traditional in-person high school to help me actualize this goal of mine.
how do you guys recommend i approach my new social life? mannerisms to exhibit, high-roi softmaxxes, clothing styles to wear, general normie mindset to adopt, etc.
all tips would be greatly appreciated!

oh my god

 

[Lefty Rankin]

wasian, 16 years of age
if you read this post fully id really appreciate it.
(check other threads for my hardmaxxing plan)
this thread mainly pertains to my future social life and next two years of high school, but also to my side profile and its failos. please critique/rate. (i hate my side profile more than my front)

for context:
i'm extremely nd and couldn't socialize with people for the life of me until recently (a year or two ago).
puberty marginally unfucked my face, gave me a nice frame im somewhat proud of, and made me grow from 4'11 to 6'2, so now im treated as human and socializing has become much less burdensome despite my remaining elliot rodger school shooter phenotype.
my lack of interpersonal skills and my misanthropic tendencies were perpetuated by 5 years of near absolute isolation, as well as constant ridicule, belittlement, and disrespect whenever i left my shell.
the pressure of already entering my junior year made me realize i don't want to miss out on making any memories with some nt normies and experiencing fun times while high school still lasts. as a result, next year i'm transferring to a traditional in-person high school to help me actualize this goal of mine.
how do you guys recommend i approach my new social life? mannerisms to exhibit, high-roi softmaxxes, clothing styles to wear, general normie mindset to adopt, etc.
all tips would be greatly appreciated!

Your fine. Quit being a stupid dummy.

 

[xlefort]

oh my god

what?

 

[xlefort]

Your fine. Quit being a stupid dummy.

i dont want to be fine in general, i want to be exceptional
are you talking about my face being "fine" or my hs experience?

 

[copedcel]

what?

if you're being genuine about wanting advice you can pm me, I'm also 16 and relatively nt and in hs

 

[xlefort]

if you're being genuine about wanting advice you can pm me, I'm also 16 and relatively nt and in hs

will do, thank you

 

[Lefty Rankin]

ont want to be fine in general, i want to be exceptional
are you talking about my face being "fine" or my hs experience?

Both

But you got no business aspiring to be exceptional if you're scared of the negative possibilities of socializing. If that's something that makes you scared then you don't have the ingredients to be exceptional.

 

[xlefort]

Both

thank you

But you got no business aspiring to be exceptional if you're scared of the negative possibilities of socializing. If that's something that makes you scared then you don't have the ingredients to be exceptional.

yeah, i do want to become exceptional eventually. thats a big part of why i transferred schools, to put myself in a better position to meet more people and gradually overcome my inhib
the rest will come with time, and if I never become especially charismatic or socially dominant, that's fine too. more than anything i just want to make memories worth looking back on instead of spending my youth sitting behind a screen while life passes by

 

[Bars]

Yes you need lefort

 

[xlefort]

Yes you need lefort

yup, im actually getting bimax, i need wider condyles and correction of mandibular asymmetry + my bite and airway

 

[Lefty Rankin]

thank you

yeah, i do want to become exceptional eventually. thats a big part of why i transferred schools, to put myself in a better position to meet more people and gradually overcome my inhib
the rest will come with time, and if I never become especially charismatic or socially dominant, that's fine too. more than anything i just want to make memories worth looking back on instead of spending my youth sitting behind a screen while life passes by

Glad to hear that. Been seeing to many peoplebon here lately who got no belief in trying for anything better.

 

[xlefort]

Glad to hear that. Been seeing to many peoplebon here lately who got no belief in trying for anything better.

yeah, i definitely think staying on here sort of ensnares people, especially impressionable young men, into this defeatist mentality early on
it really is a self fulfilling prophecy but then again im not qualified to judge because i think i have the physical looks/hardmaxx potential to eventually succeed

 

[Lefty Rankin]

yeah, i dntely think staying on here sort of ensnares people, especially impressionable young men, into this defeatist mentality early on
it really is a self fulfilling prophecy but then again im not qualified to judge because i think i have the physical looks/hardmaxx potential to eventually succeed

Don't rely on your looks. No matter how good looking you are they can neither take you or keep you where you want to be. Action is the only thing that will propell.

The looks shit on here is another big trap.

Let me give you an example. I can make another man who looks three times better than me in every way visibly insecure in a social setting with about a million different ways. If I'm particularly mean/clever and I punk him he's not gonna be thinking to himself about how he mogs me and neither will anyone else who bears witness to the ineract, because at that point it doesn't matter. I've instantly made that fact cease to be the main factor. The real world always has been and always will be far more complicated than that.

 

[xlefort]

Don't rely on your looks. No matter how good looking you are they can neither take you or keep you where you want to be. Action is the only thing that will propell.

The looks shit on here is another big trap.

Let me give you an example. I can make another man who looks three times better than me in every way visibly insecure in a social setting with about a million different ways. If I'm particularly mean/clever and I punk him he's not gonna be thinking to himself about how he mogs me and neither will anyone else who bears witness to the ineract, because at that point it doesn't matter. I've instantly made that fact cease to be the main factor. The real world always has been and always will be far more complicated than that.

yeah what youre implying is that “value” matters more than looks specifically, and value manifests itself in many lanes, your physical appearance being one of them
however ive just been insecure all my life and place more value in looks than everything else, the discussion of whether or not this is a rational mindset to have has an obvious answer, i just cant change what i fundamentally want more than anything: to look beautiful and “mog”
i dont rely on my looks and i dont think anyone should, it will only get them so far
its just a shame, that from a neurochem standpoint, my mood and drive is so strongly contingent on how people treat me/how i look, which are both extremely correlated
the way i override this dependency on external validation/insecurity of looks is desensitizing myself to social interaction and hardmaxxing, seems like the most pragmatic solution for someone like me

 

[Lefty Rankin]

yeah what youre implying is that “value” matters more than looks specifically, and value manifests itself in many lanes, your physical appearance being one of them
however ive just been insecure all my life and place more value in looks than everything else, the discussion of whether or not this is a rational mindset to have has an obvious answer, i just cant change what i fundamentally want more than anything: to look beautiful and “mog”
i dont rely on my looks and i dont think anyone should, it will only get them so far
its just a shame, that from a neurochem standpoint, my mood and drive is so strongly contingent on how people treat me/how i look, which are both extremely correlated
the way i override this dependency on external validation/insecurity of looks is desensitizing myself to social interaction and hardmaxxing, seems like the most pragmatic solution for someone like me

It's not about value. It's about having a well calibrated understanding of what generally makes people tick along with any variables that might be at play, how things are likely to play our in various situations, and a willingness to act based on that understanding. Knowing when not to react to something when your instincts might tell you to do otherwise is equally important if not more. All this can come from experience dealing with all sorts of people in various settings. Value is just an inevitable attribute given to those who act accordingly based on a certain level of understanding.

 

[xlefort]

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[xlefort]

It's not about value. It's about having a well calibrated understanding of what generally makes people tick along with any variables that might be at play, how things are likely to play our in various situations, and a willingness to act based on that understanding. Knowing when not to react to something when your instincts might tell you to do otherwise is equally important if not more. All this can come from experience dealing with all sorts of people in various settings. Value is just an inevitable attribute given to those who act accordingly based on a certain level of understanding.

“those who act accordingly based on a certain level of understanding”
the skills youre talking about can directly fall under a category of the broader concept of “value”
are these skills, knowledges, and virtues of adaptability not just valuable attributes part of a larger repertoire of leverages?

 

[Lefty Rankin]

yeathiacan ure implying is that “valueabtters more than looks specifically, and value manifests itself in many lanes, your physical appearance being one of them
however ive just been insecure all my life and place more value in looks than everything else, the discussion of whether or not this is a rational mindset to have has an obvious answer, i just cant change what i fundamentally want more than anything: to look beautiful and “mog”
i dont rely on my looks and i dont think anyone should, it will only get them so far
its just a shame, that from a neurochem standpoint, my mood and drive is so strongly contingent on how people treat me/how i look, which are both extremely correlated
the way i override this dependency on external validation/insecurity of looks is desensitizing myself to social interaction and hardmaxxing, seems like the most pragmatic solution for someone like me

And validation is poison. You should be equally indifferent to the praise of others as you are to their scorn. If Someone can make you feel good by complimenting you, showing that they sexually desire you, or simply by knowing they hold you in high regard then that they have power over you. I wouldn't like being able to be so easily moved by others in any direction on an emotional level.

It doesn't matter to me in the slighest what any person or the entire collective world feels about me because the way I value myself is only based on me and if I've beem staying true to my values whatever they've evolved to be.

Why be dependent on something from other people when you simply don't have to be and can get it solely from yourself?

 

[xlefort]

it is poison yes, and yes i “should” be equally indifferent to the praise of others as i am to their scorn, but these realizations dont materialize out of nothing, i need tangible experience to catalyze such a mental change. which again, is why im transferring high schools

It doesn't matter to me in the slighest what any person or the entire collective world feels about me because the way I value myself is only based on me and if I've beem staying true to my values whatever they've evolved to be.

yeah, happy for you, but it takes more than telling someone to think a certain way for them to actually adopt that way of thinking, as much as i agree with this whole sentiment of bearing complete ambivalence to other people’s opinions
it can backfire too though from what ive seen, not caring about what people think is not only impossible but unhealthy, social awareness and willingness to change in accordance to your environment is a crucial skill to develop, one that cannot be developed without my boots on the ground

 

[Lefty Rankin]

nrepurct.zaccordingly based on a certain level of understanding”
the skills youre talking about can directly fall under a category of the broader concept of “value”
are these skills, knowledges, and virtues of adaptability not just valuable attributes part of a larger repertoire of leverages?

My IQ's very low. Please dumb all that shit down so I might be able to understand what you're trying to ask.

Value/respect is what I thought were talking about. As in a getting to have a reputation that precedes you've been observed to ACT a certain way in certain situations.

Adaptability and a repertoire leverages is something we're all born with to varying degrees of. In that sense they're virtues. If and when you deliberately increase them beyond that through action then they are no longer vurtues and become experience based skills.

 

[xlefort]

My IQ's very low. Please dumb all that shit down so I might be able to understand what you're trying to ask.

no man, im just a word salad
in simpler terms, i was saying:
the “social adaptability and awareness” skill that you were glorifying in your message was just another way value manifests itself, so it SEEMED like you were actually agreeing with me despite you beginning your reply with “its not about value”
its just semantics

Adaptability and a repertoire leverages is something we're all born with to varying degrees of. In that sense they're virtues. If and when you deliberately increase them beyond that through action then they are no longer vurtues and become experience based skills.

right, and looks, SOMETIMES can be considered another leverage interchangeable to a skill that brings value
all of these things comprise the broader concept of someone’s overall value

 

[jacksonchris]

wasian, 16 years of age
if you read this post fully id really appreciate it.
(check other threads for my hardmaxxing plan)
this thread mainly pertains to my future social life and next two years of high school, but also to my side profile and its failos. please critique/rate. (i hate my side profile more than my front)

for context:
i'm extremely nd and couldn't socialize with people for the life of me until recently (a year or two ago).
puberty marginally unfucked my face, gave me a nice frame im somewhat proud of, and made me grow from 4'11 to 6'2, so now im treated as human and socializing has become much less burdensome despite my remaining elliot rodger school shooter phenotype.
my lack of interpersonal skills and my misanthropic tendencies were perpetuated by 5 years of near absolute isolation, as well as constant ridicule, belittlement, and disrespect whenever i left my shell.
the pressure of already entering my junior year made me realize i don't want to miss out on making any memories with some nt normies and experiencing fun times while high school still lasts. as a result, next year i'm transferring to a traditional in-person high school to help me actualize this goal of mine.
how do you guys recommend i approach my new social life? mannerisms to exhibit, high-roi softmaxxes, clothing styles to wear, general normie mindset to adopt, etc.
all tips would be greatly appreciated!

idk for mindset probably larp buddhism or sum shi focus on like peace, dress a pinterestcel fag, just like keep growing out and taking care of your hair until its like neck level, maybe get glasses, mirin the side profile tho good shi

 

[xlefort]

anywho any more

idk for mindset probably larp buddhism or sum shi focus on like peace, dress a pinterestcel fag, just like keep growing out and taking care of your hair until its like neck level, maybe get glasses, mirin the side profile tho good shi

thanks bro!
ill probably go on pinterest and pick out some nt looking fits yeah
briefly if you could, what glasses/hairstyle do you recommend?

 

[jacksonchris]

anywho any more

thanks bro!
ill probably go on pinterest and pick out some nt looking fits yeah
briefly if you could, what glasses/hairstyle do you recommend?

depends on your front profile but prolly black frame or clear frame, maybe a wolf cut or something like bass has

 

[xlefort]

depends on your front profile but prolly black frame or clear frame, maybe a wolf cut or something like bass hasView attachment 5335901

yeah, mogs
im dying my hair jet black to lean into this edgy archetype that i naturally will be put into, i dont think i have much of a choice
can you give an example of glasses that youd think would fit? i cant send a front profile rn unfortunately

 

[jacksonchris]

yeah, mogs
im dying my hair jet black to lean into this edgy archetype that i naturally will be put into, i dont think i have much of a choice
can you give an example of glasses that youd think would fit? i cant send a front profile rn unfortunately

hard to tell without front profile but proly one of these two would work
jet black fs good decision

 

[Lefty Rankin]

tis poison yes, and yes i “should” be equally inafferent to the praise of others as i am to their scorn, but these realizations dont materialize out of nothing, i need tangible experience to catalyze such a mental change. which again, is why im transferring high schools

yeah, happy for you, but it takes more than telling someone to think a certain way for them to actually adopt that way of thinking, as much as i agree with this whole sentiment of bearing complete ambivalence to other people’s opinions
it can backfire too though from what ive seen, not caring about what people think is not only impossible but unhealthy, social awareness and willingness to change in accordance to your environment is a crucial skill to develop, one that cannot be developed without my boots on the ground

Wait wait wait! Not caring what people think and being socially unaware are two completely different things. I never said you should be unwilling to change to your environment. You should always change according to your environment in the way that pans out best for you, but not simply because people will approve or disapprove of it. Someotimes the consequences of their disapproval will be a big roadblock to my achieving whatever goal I might be after, so I'll decide whether or not it's worth it and act accordingly. But if I do something that does earn me the disapproval of others it wasn't because I was socially unaware. It just means that I already understood that the consequences of their disapproval wouldn't have any effect on me achieving whatever goal I had.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

no man, iparst a word salad
in simpler terms, i was instant.
thA rel “social adaptability and awareness” skill that you were glorifying in your message was just another way value manifests itself, so it SEEMED like you were actually agreeing with me despite you beginning your reply with “its not about value”
its just semantics

right, and looks, SOMETIMES can be considered another leverage interchangeable to a skill that brings value
all of these things comprise the broader concept of someone’s overall value

Yes, looks are indeed a part of a person's overall leverage and overall value. The thing about looks thought is no matter how good they are they can always be rendered totally irrelevant in an instant. Meaning anybody's good looks could suddenly mean absolutely nothing to anybody who found them irresistible just five minutes before. This always comes about due to a revelation about the good looking person in question coming to light. It's something either inadvertently brought forth by the person themselves, which is usually the case, or it's brought to light inadvertently or deliberately by someone else.

This is why looks are foolish to spend too much time worrying about trying to improve. An ugly person can always go just as far any very good looking person.