will these help me reach HMTN or MMTN

[dk14gm]

-Damon braces which im getting tmr, MAYBE marpe i cant afford and the other surgerys i cant either

- Roids ( Im starting off with test and gh kr eq first)

- Oral minox 2.5mg

- Skincare, Retinoids, isotret , azelaic acid

- Cutting Medial canthus

- Mouth cutting

- Bonesmashing, iv read a bunch of threads and it seems it does something so yeah

- Then we have the softmaxxes like necktrain,gym,losing a bit more bf even though im 80kg 179cm, eyebrow shaping,tinted spf

Thats all i can do at age 16

What can i excpect out of this and can i possibly become HMTN after all this ?

 

[bddcoper]

all you can expect to achieve is become a water buffalo more so than you already are

not trying to be mean by your stack isnt very good or realistic and your skin will suffer

 

[dk14gm]

all you can expect to achieve is become a water buffalo more so than you already are

not trying to be mean by your stack isnt very good or realistic and your skin will suffer

Wait why, and by stack do you mean roids and also do you mean water buffalo from the roids, By the way what do i need then

 

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-Damon braces which im getting tmr, MAYBE marpe i cant afford and the other surgerys i cant either

- Roids ( Im starting off with test and gh kr eq first)

- Oral minox 2.5mg

- Skincare, Retinoids, isotret , azelaic acid

- Cutting Medial canthus

- Mouth cutting

- Bonesmashing, iv read a bunch of threads and it seems it does something so yeah

- Then we have the softmaxxes like necktrain,gym,losing a bit more bf even though im 80kg 179cm, eyebrow shaping,tinted spf

Thats all i can do at age 16

What can i excpect out of this and can i possibly become HMTN after all this ?

losing weight should be ur main goal, u need to be around 70 at 179cm with lots of muscle

 

[eka]

Loose weight

 

[dk14gm]

losing weight should be ur main goal, u need to be around 70 at 179cm with lots of muscle

i think im skinny fat though like not to much i got fat around love handles and fat in certain areas

 

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i think im skinny fat though like not to much i got fat around love handles and fat in certain areas

your goal should be body recomposition

the reason i pointed that out is because your clavicles are not defined whats so ever,

 

[dk14gm]

your goal should be body recomposition

the reason i pointed that out is because your clavicles are not defined whats so ever,

Im hopping on roids anyways should i do a -400 cal deficit? im still in ouberty but i think if i get micronutrients and protein is high and carbs i shld be fine right

 

[bddcoper]

Wait why, and by stack do you mean roids and also do you mean water buffalo from the roids, By the way what do i need then

just everything

oral minox i would use 0.625 mg or 1.25 mg daily. not good for skin quality or keeping a dry lean look. its fine because you're not lean right not but water weight is more noticeable the less bf you have

isotret should be used alone and for rosacea try non irritating treatments like a laser treatment, non irritating topicals, or some peptide that suppress NF-κB not azaleic acid and a retinoid

and yes i mean water buffalo from roids do you have solid ancillaries in place or do you just plan to pin and pray? and why are you running eq first cycle your first cycle should be 300-400 test and maybe GH. i mean yes your estrogen will be high as shit because of your body fat but its better to use an AI or lean out before you roid because you need to know how you feel on each compound

also mark as solution please

 

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Im hopping on roids anyways should i do a -400 cal deficit? im still in ouberty but i think if i get micronutrients and protein is high and carbs i shld be fine right

yes at like 200g of protein a day, mostly whole foods as they provide good micros and macros

 

[bddcoper]

your goal should be body recomposition

the reason i pointed that out is because your clavicles are not defined whats so ever,

yes

yes at like 200g of protein a day, mostly whole foods as they provide good micros and macros

he should not cut first cycle it's probably best for him to eat in a slightly surplus then cut on a cruise and he shouldnt roid until hes 70 kg

maybe he can start by recomping on GH only

 

[dk14gm]

just everything

oral minox i would use 0.625 mg or 1.25 mg daily. not good for skin quality or keeping a dry lean look. its fine because you're not lean right not but water weight is more noticeable the less bf you have

isotret should be used alone and for rosacea try non irritating treatments like a laser treatment, non irritating topicals, or some peptide that suppress NF-κB not azaleic acid and a retinoid

and yes i mean water buffalo from roids do you have solid ancillaries in place or do you just plan to pin and pray? and why are you running eq first cycle your first cycle should be 300-400 test and maybe GH. i mean yes your estrogen will be high as shit because of your body fat but its better to use an AI or lean out before you roid because you need to know how you feel on each compound

also mark as solution please

holy shit this is the best advice i have got , i love you so much But one thing is i said EQ because my friend says AI js shuts plates down ? anyways i would prefer Test + GH and i was fine on 250mg for a month last time i used roids before i got caught so yeah, ALSO what bf shld i get around to and i think im 15-16% bf im not sure though Nd yes i need to get job before i hop on roids and make sure i have ancillaries ofc,

What abt canthus cutting and mouth cutting

also rate me now and my potential at 16

 

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yes


he should not cut first cycle it's probably best for him to eat in a slightly surplus then cut on a cruise and he shouldnt roid until hes 70 kg

maybe he can start by recomping on GH only

exactly this should be solution

 

[cashcow]

look into a rhinoplasty

 

[dk14gm]

yes


he should not cut first cycle it's probably best for him to eat in a slightly surplus then cut on a cruise and he shouldnt roid until hes 70 kg

maybe he can start by recomping on GH only

so shld i cut rn before hopping on roids to 70kg ?

 

[bddcoper]

holy shit this is the best advice i have got , i love you so much But one thing is i said EQ because my friend says AI js shuts plates down ? anyways i would prefer Test + GH and i was fine on 250mg for a month last time i used roids before i got caught so yeah, ALSO what bf shld i get around to and i think im 15-16% bf im not sure though Nd yes i need to get job before i hop on roids and make sure i have ancillaries ofc,

What abt canthus cutting and mouth cutting

also rate me now and my potential at 16

AI increases height potential so im not sure how it would shut your plates down. try to have normal e2 so like ~25-30 for your goals

nah you aren't close to 15-16% bf maybe 22-24% need to be 12-14%. if you were 15% you would have an FFMI of 21

and you were fine because it was only a month so your levels hadn't even stabilized and im sure you werent even fully shut down

ancillaries you can probably get a 20 week supply for like $100-150

dont cut anything stupid idea

rating idk you are probably just the average teen i'd see on the street so whatever that rating is

so shld i cut rn before hopping on roids to 70kg ?

yes

 

[dk14gm]

AI increases height potential so im not sure how it would shut your plates down. try to have normal e2 so like ~25-30 for your goals

nah you aren't close to 15-16% bf maybe 22-24% need to be 12-14%. if you were 15% you would have an FFMI of 21

and you were fine because it was only a month so your levels hadn't even stabilized and im sure you werent even fully shut down

ancillaries you can probably get a 20 week supply for like $100-150

dont cut anything stupid idea

rating idk you are probably just the average teen i'd see on the street so whatever that rating is


yes

AI increases height potential so im not sure how it would shut your plates down. try to have normal e2 so like ~25-30 for your goals

nah you aren't close to 15-16% bf maybe 22-24% need to be 12-14%. if you were 15% you would have an FFMI of 21

and you were fine because it was only a month so your levels hadn't even stabilized and im sure you werent even fully shut down

ancillaries you can probably get a 20 week supply for like $100-150

dont cut anything stupid idea

rating idk you are probably just the average teen i'd see on the street so whatever that rating is


yes

Im going to book in now to see if my plates are fused cause i dont even know if they are fused or not, Also I DOUBT im above 15% Hold on do you have any socials that i can send my physique on

 

[bddcoper]

Im going to book in now to see if my plates are fused cause i dont even know if they are fused or not, Also I DOUBT im above 15% Hold on do you have any socials that i can send my physique on

just send the physique here and delete but i can guarantee that you are no less than 20%

 

[dk14gm]

just send the physique here and delete but i can guarantee that you are no less than 20%

Oh shit i forgot , 2 years training btw but i wasent that consistent fucking brutal oh holy shit i have puberty gyno for 3 or so years aswell its js cold so u cant notice it as much

 

[bddcoper]

Oh shit i forgot , 2 years training btw but i wasent that consistent fucking brutal oh holy shit i have puberty gyno for 3 or so years aswell its js cold so u cant notice it as much

yeah dude u aren't sub 20% if you were 15% your ffmi would be 21 and you aren't close to what a 21 ffmi would look like. maybe like 25% my physique was like that prob had to lose 30 lbs to get shredded and have ab veins even then i wasn't below 10-11%

22-24 ffmi is fake natty territory for reference

 

[dk14gm]

yeah dude u aren't sub 20% if you were 15% your ffmi would be 21 and you aren't close to what a 21 ffmi would look like. maybe like 25% my physique was like that prob had to lose 30 lbs to get shredded and have ab veins even then i wasn't below 10-11%

22-24 ffmi is fake natty territory for reference

so i shld still do a deficit and how much of a deficit before i roid up

 

[bddcoper]

so i shld still do a deficit and how much of a deficit before i roid up

like 300-500 for the next 20 weeks alongside GH

 

[dk14gm]

like 300-500 for the next 20 weeks alongside GH

with just GH ? well first i need to get GH shich will probaly be in abt a month so ill cut now then in a month use gh and still cut and after 20 weeks add test

 

[dk14gm]

like 300-500 for the next 20 weeks alongside GH

also will i be able to see abs with this ?

 

[bddcoper]

with just GH ? well first i need to get GH shich will probaly be in abt a month so ill cut now then in a month use gh and still cut and after 20 weeks add test

Yeah no steroids

And add Reta or tirz

also will i be able to see abs with this ?

Eventually with or without GH

 

[dk14gm]

Yeah no steroids

And add Reta or tirz


Eventually with or without GH

jesus holy advice, Thanks man anything else

 

[bddcoper]

jesus holy advice, Thanks man anything else

No that’s all but give solution please

And lmk if you have other questions

 

[dk14gm]

No that’s all but give solution please

And lmk if you have other questions

Yeah done, js also is their anything else i shld get from indiamart other then oral minox

 

[bddcoper]

Yeah done, js also is their anything else i shld get from indiamart other then oral minox

Topical ivermectin for redness maybe wait until you need ancillaries to order

 

[dk14gm]

Topical ivermectin for redness maybe wait until you need ancillaries to order

Okay, also i dont think i asked, I heard cutting in puberty fucks hormones, whats a safe approach of doing so?

 

[bddcoper]

Okay, also i dont think i asked, I heard cutting in puberty fucks hormones, whats a safe approach of doing so?

Small deficit

 

[dk14gm]

Small deficit

so -500? also that shits gonna take till 2027 to get to 70kg 🫩