Women are involuntarily single

[Amexmaxx]

Hear me out. An Incel is a man who wants sex but cant get sex. In the same light women are involuntarily single because they want a relationship but wont settle for anything less than a 6 foot, 6 figures, htn/chadlite. The stats show that women are increasingly remaining single and unmarried. You may be lead to think this is so they can continue to riding the cock carousel. But thats projecting male mating strategy onto women. We’ve already come to the conclusion that they are doing this by choice which is true but also FALSE. An incel can’t get sex because of NO options. A women chooses to remain single because she doesn’t have GOOD choices. Therefore it is in theory INVOLUNTARY. Her high standards, hypergamy, mindset whatever has FORCED (involuntary) her to remain single.

 

[gamma]

High standards = volcel

 

[Deleted member 14303]

 

[Vermilioncore]

I woke up this morning and immediately felt sad that it is over

 

[Amexmaxx]

High standards = volcel

For chads. Women can’t comprehend celibacy

 

[Kylo]

but wont settle for anything less than a 6 foot, 6 figures, htn/chadlite.

but wont

wont

Automatic voluntary

 

[Amexmaxx]

Automatic voluntary

If a stern vegan goes to a buffet and they have no vegan options. That buffet has essentially FORCED them to starve. If a staunch entitled woman goes to the male market and theres no rich chad options the male market has FORCED her to remain single. That is the point im making.

 

[subhuman incel]

am i, for not fucking a PSL 2 landwhale, an involuntary or voluntary incel? i have standards as well, like this women you described.

 

[Kylo]

If a staunch entitled woman goes to the male market and theres no rich chad options the male market has FORCED her to remain single.

If a staunch entilted woman goes to the male market and there’s options to go around and she chooses not. She has willfully FORCED herself to remain single...

It’s a Yes, but actually no type deal

 

[Amexmaxx]

W

am i, for not fucking a PSL 2 landwhale, an involuntary or voluntary incel? i have standards as well, like this women you described.

Women have the smv to actualize their standards you dont.

 

[subhuman incel]

If a stern vegan goes to a buffet and they have no vegan options. That buffet has essentially FORCED them to starve. If a staunch entitled woman goes to the male market and theres no rich chad options the male market has FORCED her to remain single. That is the point im making.

i get what you are saying. so lets say my standards are that my girlfriend has to be at least 4PSL, white and thin. if there are no girls around avaible that fits that description (either because they live in different area or these kind of girls are not attractet to me) i am a involuntary incel, right? it all depends on how your individual standards are.

 

[Amexmaxx]

willfully FORCED herself to remain single...

Willingly forced is an oxymoron. Force denotes involuntary. Someone forces you to do something that means it was againt your will.

 

[subhuman incel]

W

Women have the smv to actualize their standards you dont.

if i looksmax,statusmax and moneymax i can actualize my standards, because i gain smv.

 

[Kylo]

Willingly forced is an oxymoron. Force denotes involuntary. Someone forces you to do something that means it was againt your will.

I’ll grant you that... change it to She willfully remained single and my argument still goes through.

Again yes but actually no

 

[SeiGun]

what the hell you talking about, thats not involuntary,
what a cope

 

[subhuman incel]

W

Women have the smv to actualize their standards you dont.

what i dont get is that you make a distinction between male and females. it doesnt matter what gender you are. if you are a chad male, and only settle for 7PSL+ women, but arent able to get such women, it means you are involuntary incel also as male. it all come downs to what your standards are at they end.

 

[Amexmaxx]

if i looksmax,statusmax and moneymax i can actualize my standards, because i gain smv.

Yes only women and chad can enforce standards

 

[Kylo]

There’s a lot I could say wrong with your argument like how relatively accessibly easy high value men are to even the average woman and therefore forced isnt the right word to use

 

[randomuser2407]

No, women can spend their 20s being promiscuous sluts and then get married to a rich beta bucks provider, have kids with him and then, if she still wants sex on the side, she can get it.

Most men can't get laid and even their dating options for a relationship are very small, which is why most guys are very clingy, because they know that if they lose her, they will not find another woman. Most men cannot have an abundance mentality because most men are too low in SMV to get with more than 1-3 women in their lifetime.

Only the men who have looksmaxxed to the point where they have high enough SMV to get laid regularly can even come close to what women are able to experience, because those men can get laid with many women as much as they want and they can get a girlfriend whenever they want. The key to ending up in that position is to focus on looksmaxxing by first taking care of your face (jaw and skin) and then by acquiring a muscular ripped physique. Guys who focus too much on plastic surgeries will never ascend for the most part. Meanwhile, even an average looking guy of average height can ascend by gymmaxxing and leanmaxxing.

The main reason why women dominate the dating market is because women focus on their looks and there are tons of products that cater to their needs, while men severely neglect their looks and there are less products that cater to men, so the average woman is better looking than the average man, and that is why most men have such a low SMV. If guys started by looksmaxxing from a very young age, they would easily end up in the top 5% of men as adults, but guys don't do that, because society tells men to neglect their looks, to instead focus on personality or money, both of which aren't anywhere near as effective as having good looks.

Women aren't born with good looks and good looking men are not born good looking, they all have to maintain their beauty and it is a lot of work.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Most men are voluntarile celibate too, everyone could get sex with landwhales and very ugly women, but they dont want to.

 

[stamaster21]

No, women can spend their 20s being promiscuous sluts and then get married to a rich beta bucks provider, have kids with him and then, if she still wants sex on the side, she can get it.

Most men can't get laid and even their dating options for a relationship are very small, which is why most guys are very clingy, because they know that if they lose her, they will not find another woman. Most men cannot have an abundance mentality because most men are too low in SMV to get with more than 1-3 women in their lifetime.

Only the men who have looksmaxxed to the point where they have high enough SMV to get laid regularly can even come close to what women are able to experience, because those men can get laid with many women as much as they want and they can get a girlfriend whenever they want. The key to ending up in that position is to focus on looksmaxxing by first taking care of your face (jaw and skin) and then by acquiring a muscular ripped physique. Guys who focus too much on plastic surgeries will never ascend for the most part. Meanwhile, even an average looking guy of average height can ascend by gymmaxxing and leanmaxxing.

The main reason why women dominate the dating market is because women focus on their looks and there are tons of products that cater to their needs, while men severely neglect their looks and there are less products that cater to men, so the average woman is better looking than the average man, and that is why most men have such a low SMV. If guys started by looksmaxxing from a very young age, they would easily end up in the top 5% of men as adults, but guys don't do that, because society tells men to neglect their looks, to instead focus on personality or money, both of which aren't anywhere near as effective as having good looks.

Women aren't born with good looks and good looking men are not born good looking, they all have to maintain their beauty and it is a lot of work.

wrong the avg women looks worse then the avg man, as men on average are more physically fit, and do more labor jobs, and are more physically active. Your mistake is tying in womens smv to them being better looking when its not true. Men have 1/3 thicker skin and bone density, and more muscle which helps with lower body fat. Women skin ages at 2x the rate of men at age 30+.

Its that the guys at the top have no problem banging a bunch of women 1-3 points lower which effects the mating marktet, making harder for lower ranking males to get looks matchs. A 10/10 male is fucking 6/10s to 10/10 women. You have a smaller pool of men having sex with a larger pool of women. Say a women is a 6/10 and thinks banging a 6/10 male is settling, its not that she is more attractive its that she has more sexual options.

 

[randomuser2407]

wrong the avg women looks worse then the avg man, as men on average are more physically fit, and do more labor jobs, and are more physically active. Your mistake is tying in womens smv to them being better looking when its not true. Men have 1/3 thicker skin and bone density, and more muscle which helps with lower body fat. Women skin ages at 2x the rate of men at age 30+.

Its that the guys at the top have no problem banging a bunch of women 1-3 points lower which effects the mating marktet, making harder for lower ranking males to get looks matchs. A 10/10 male is fucking 6/10s to 10/10 women. You have a smaller pool of men having sex with a larger pool of women. Say a women is a 6/10 and thinks banging a 6/10 male is settling, its not that she is more attractive its that she has more sexual options.

I was talking about the women on Tinder.

The average man on Tinder is less attractive than the average woman on Tinder, because women only need to be skinny to be fit while men need to be muscular to reach the same level. Most men are not muscular, so most women look better than most men, on Tinder.

As for the whole hypergamy thing, it is bullshit. Women don't have high standards, yes, they get lots of matches on Tinder but women's value is different than men's value.
Men can fuck hundreds of women without losing their SMV, while women can't.
Most women who spend their 20s being sluts end up as single mothers who are low SMV in their 30s and older, while most men who spend their 20s having lots of sex will be able to continue to do so well into their 30s, 40s, 50s and even 60s or older for some men.

This is why men have the advantage. Sure, women don't have to put in any effort to get laid, but women can't have as long of a slut phase as men can. Women have to rely on men and they need to have children so they have to get married, while men don't.

Sure, men have to work harder to looksmax and moneymax and put themselves in uncomfortable situations by making the first move with women that don't know them, but in the end, men get the last laugh. It is only the men who never work on themselves, and who never have the guts to try to get laid with women and who get married early in life who will have a very bad sex life and love life compared to the average woman.

If you're black pilled, you're already way ahead of everyone else, then, all your success is defined based on what you will and what you won't do. It is your choice to either put in the work to improve yourself or do nothing and watch yourself deteriorate each year into a lower SMV man. Most men are low SMV due to lack of knowledge AND laziness, being black pilled is useful but not enough, you still need to put in the work, but then you can reap the rewards for many decades to come.

 

[stamaster21]

I was talking about the women on Tinder.

The average man on Tinder is less attractive than the average woman on Tinder, because women only need to be skinny to be fit while men need to be muscular to reach the same level. Most men are not muscular, so most women look better than most men, on Tinder.

As for the whole hypergamy thing, it is bullshit. Women don't have high standards, yes, they get lots of matches on Tinder but women's value is different than men's value.
Men can fuck hundreds of women without losing their SMV, while women can't.
Most women who spend their 20s being sluts end up as single mothers who are low SMV in their 30s and older, while most men who spend their 20s having lots of sex will be able to continue to do so well into their 30s, 40s, 50s and even 60s or older for some men.

This is why men have the advantage. Sure, women don't have to put in any effort to get laid, but women can't have as long of a slut phase as men can. Women have to rely on men and they need to have children so they have to get married, while men don't.

Sure, men have to work harder to looksmax and moneymax and put themselves in uncomfortable situations by making the first move with women that don't know them, but in the end, men get the last laugh. It is only the men who never work on themselves, and who never have the guts to try to get laid with women and who get married early in life who will have a very bad sex life and love life compared to the average woman.

If you're black pilled, you're already way ahead of everyone else, then, all your success is defined based on what you will and what you won't do. It is your choice to either put in the work to improve yourself or do nothing and watch yourself deteriorate each year into a lower SMV man. Most men are low SMV due to lack of knowledge AND laziness, being black pilled is useful but not enough, you still need to put in the work, but then you can reap the rewards for many decades to come.

again back to my point your wrong, you comparing smv with sexual access, in relation with men compared to women. Your not looking at the looks, your looking at sexual access. Just because a thin women , has more sexual access then a thin man doesn't mean she is more physically attractive.