Women's standards aren't higher. Most men are simply objectively uglier than women.

[disillusioned]

Even straight males can still tell if another male is good looking or not. And if you look around you you'd see that the vast majority of males look like utter shit. The male aesthetic is just not good. Feminine features are objectively prettier, which is probably why many women are drawn toward prettyboys with ripped bodies instead of the ugly 'masculine' types.

Women aren't actually as selective as we think. It just happens that the average male is much uglier than the average woman.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

wrong. i see women with the facial proportions of a junebug still get dick. we have lower standards and they have higher standards.

 

[disillusioned]

wrong. i see women with the facial proportions of a junebug still get dick. we have lower standards and they have higher standards.

Okay maybe the thread title should've been "women's standards aren't THAT much higher" but the general point still stands.

Yes, there are ugly women. But the AVERAGE woman looks 10x better than the AVERAGE male. Most women (at least white women) aren't actually ugly insofar as they just don't allow themselves to get fat. But the average male IS ugly.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Okay maybe the thread title should've been "women's standards aren't THAT much higher" but the general point still stands.

Yes, there are ugly women. But the AVERAGE woman looks 10x better than the AVERAGE male. Most women (at least white women) aren't actually ugly insofar as they just don't allow themselves to get fat. But the average male IS ugly.

ok i changed my mind women are better looking on average but also have vastly highers standards reguardless

 

[Deleted member 21166]

Even straight males can still tell if another male is good looking or not. And if you look around you you'd see that the vast majority of males look like utter shit. The male aesthetic is just not good. Feminine features are objectively prettier, which is probably why many women are drawn toward prettyboys with ripped bodies instead of the ugly 'masculine' types.

Women aren't actually as selective as we think. It just happens that the average male is much uglier than the average woman.

I would argue instead that men and women are equally as ugly and that as a collective species we love to worship rulers, or specifically those who are top percentage of the genetic stock.

 

[disillusioned]

I would argue instead that men and women are equally as ugly and that as a collective species we love to worship rulers, or specifically those who are top percentage of the genetic stock.

No.

Men are just uglier. Male facial features are cruder and worse looking. Feminine features are pretty. And contrary to what most blue pillars believe, women are NOT drawn towards 'masculine' (aka ugly) faces. Most of the 'attractive masculine' facial features like a well developed jaw, symmetry, etc aren't even specifically masculine since those features are also attractive to males.

Who do women worship in the real world? It's not guys like Arnold. It's pretty boys like Justin Bieber and Brad Pitt. They want pretty and feminine faces on ripped and lean bodies.

This is a massive part of the reason gymcelling is such utter cope.

 

[Deleted member 21166]

No.

Men are just uglier. Male facial features are cruder and worse looking. Feminine features are pretty. And contrary to what most blue pillars believe, women are NOT drawn towards 'masculine' (aka ugly) faces. Most of the 'attractive masculine' facial features like a well developed jaw, symmetry, etc aren't even specifically masculine since those features are also attractive to males.

Who do women worship in the real world? It's not guys like Arnold. It's pretty boys like Justin Bieber and Brad Pitt. They want pretty and feminine faces on ripped and lean bodies.

This is a massive part of the reason gymcelling is such utter cope.

The majority of women want a fair balance of pretty boy and masculine, they want the full package.

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Even straight males can still tell if another male is good looking or not. And if you look around you you'd see that the vast majority of males look like utter shit. The male aesthetic is just not good. Feminine features are objectively prettier, which is probably why many women are drawn toward prettyboys with ripped bodies instead of the ugly 'masculine' types.

Women aren't actually as selective as we think. It just happens that the average male is much uglier than the average woman.

lol foids are on average uglier facially than men because men have had to be talented to pass on their genes while foids didn't need to resulting in positive selection for looks in men but not vice versa. Also, foids use filters and makeup lmaoo t

 

[dirtydorito]

Male gaze vs female gaze

 

[Deleted member 17430]

your posts are getting lower iq by the day.

Everyone knows that women are more attractive than men. it's blackpill 101. it's not that female features are objectively prettier, it's that the bar is lower for women

 

[Deleted member 5892]

You're completely right about feminine features looking more aesthetic. The vast majority of men lack pretty features and I agree that women look better than men on average. Furthermore, there are more cases of skull/facial deformities in men than in women.

But women still have higher standards than men (for looks). I think that it partly comes from the fact that the region of the brain which allows ppl to recognize faces is more developed in women.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

The majority of women want a fair balance of pretty boy and masculine, they want the full package.

exactly, nature makes it much harder for men to be attractive. The recipe to make an attractive man is extremely complex

 

[disillusioned]

exactly, nature makes it much harder for men to be attractive. The recipe to make an attractive man is extremely complex

The masculine features women want in a male don't really have anything to do with the face, however. It's mostly things like height, frame, proportions, etc.

If you had a 6.4ft tall ripped dude with a face that looked borderline like that of a woman, he'd have thousands of women drolling over him.

 

[Erik-Jón]

My standerds are higher then foids

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

Even straight males can still tell if another male is good looking or not. And if you look around you you'd see that the vast majority of males look like utter shit. The male aesthetic is just not good. Feminine features are objectively prettier, which is probably why many women are drawn toward prettyboys with ripped bodies instead of the ugly 'masculine' types.

Women aren't actually as selective as we think. It just happens that the average male is much uglier than the average woman.

what kind of copium is this? Women walk out of their houses with 5 pounds of chemicals on their face, fake hair, lashes, and lift their pants up to their belly buttons.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

The masculine features women want in a male don't really have anything to do with the face, however. It's mostly things like height, frame, proportions, etc.

If you had a 6.4ft tall ripped dude with a face that looked borderline like that of a woman, he'd have thousands of women drolling over him.

Good looking men have a perfect facial hormonal balance. But mind you that facial ratios can't be feminine otherwise it's a failo (ex. philtrum-chin ratio, ES ratio, etc). This is why an average amount of facial masculinity is generally required (Chico would be an example imo). An excessive amount of androgens destroy facial aesthetics and prettyness is the basis of looks
I agree with you on that btw
The absence of facial neoteny is much more important than facial masculinity (having defined features basically).

 

[Deleted member 5892]

what kind of copium is this? Women walk out of their houses with 5 pounds of chemicals on their face, fake hair, lashes, and lift their pants up to their belly buttons.

most women look like shit but they still look better than men on average. They have better maxillary projection and more prominent cheekbones, better skin elasticity (promoted by estrogens). And better facial averageness as well

 

[Vain786]

And if you look around you you'd see that the vast majority of males look like utter shit. The male aesthetic is just not good.

men are good looking bra all i do is stare at men and evaluate them. women are invisible to me but the men i can appreciate. i would honestly bang a fellow bro rather than a girl. not in a gay way, but in an appreciating the fellow man way

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

most women look like shit but they still look better than men on average. They have better maxillary projection and more prominent cheekbones, better skin elasticity (promoted by estrogens). And better facial averageness as well

True, but I feel like the best-looking men look better than the best-looking women. Take their makeup off and it lowkey drops them a point. Then again there is no real way to compare so this is meaningless.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

True, but I feel like the best-looking men look better than the best-looking women. Take their makeup off and it lowkey drops them a point. Then again there is no real way to compare so this is meaningless.

yeah the best looking men look insane while beautiful women aren't impressive at all bc I'd fuck any bitch who isn't a complete subhuman

 

[germanlooks]

Women just get away with more shit.

A woman can look good with a wide and narrow jaw.
A man can only look good with a wide jaw. With a narrow jaw he will look like a cuck.
Same applies to hunter and prey eyes and many other features.

Then women have the advantage of make up frauding and being taught by society to do more to their physical appearance in general

 

[disillusioned]

i would honestly bang a fellow bro rather than a girl. not in a gay way, but in an appreciating the fellow man way

 

[Deleted member 17829]

yeah cos every girl you've ever seen has had 10 filters and 5kg of makeup on u retard

 

[BucketCrab]

Beyond the fact that females are naturally more selective and males just want to spread their seed, another essential difference is that women looksmax since they're 5, and they have thousands of resources and advice on how to looksmax to their utmost limit.

Men get jack shit, the only advice you get as a man trying to be more attractive is either "hit the gym" or "get an haircut" at best; at worst, you'll be shamed for being vain and feminine and caring too much about your looks. Part of the blame should be placed on this delusional bluepilled society that sees chasing male beauty as some sort of abuse of the natural order of society.

 

[....]

How can you say women are uglier than men, when they be caking on the makeup

 

[Deleted member 20565]

aaaaaand this is where being neurotypical and traditionally masculine comes to play