Worth taking trt with average t levels?

[Deusmaximus]

Im at 578ng/dl, but want to build more muscles without the cardiovascular and hairloss risks. Would 150mg e5d bring enough benefits?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

578 isn’t normal levels for an < 25 male. Only in 2020 has it become “average”.

 

[Surgeron]

578 isn’t normal levels for an < 25 male. Only in 2020 has it become “average”.

You think there is a big difference for muscle building between average and above average (not supraphysiological) t levels?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You think there is a big difference for muscle building between average and above average t levels?

Yes.

 

[BigBoy]

Do you have any symptoms of low t?

 

[Deusmaximus]

Do you have any symptoms of low t?

I am not sweating anymore in the gym, cant increase weights or muscle mass. I am at this t level since i take finasteride. Before i was even lower (300-350ng/dl), and felt the same as today. I am now 26, but was a total different person at 19/20yrs old. More agressive, dominant and muscular than today.

 

[Casadonis]

578 isn’t normal levels for an < 25 male. Only in 2020 has it become “average”.

do you have a study on the normal t levels for age brackets? Not doubting it, just curious

 

[Deleted member 7725]

do you have a study on the normal t levels for age brackets? Not doubting it, just curious

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High or low testosterone levels in men can cause symptoms and signs of weight gain, osteoporosis, decline in sexual desire, and a decline in physical energy and stamina. Higher than normal levels may normalize blood pressure and reduce the risk of obesity and heart attacks.

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Average T level is 679 ng/ml for all males. If you're peak age then it should be higher.

 

[Deusmaximus]

High & Low Testosterone Levels: Symptoms, Signs & Side Effects

High or low testosterone levels in men can cause symptoms and signs of weight gain, osteoporosis, decline in sexual desire, and a decline in physical energy and stamina. Higher than normal levels may normalize blood pressure and reduce the risk of obesity and heart attacks.

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Average T level is 679 ng/ml for all males. If you're peak age then it should be higher.

But still free t is the only number that counts for muscle building and well beeing. If average t level is 679, then i am not very far away with 578??
You still think i could benefit from 150mg e5d?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

But still free t is the only number that counts for muscle building and well beeing. If average t level is 679, then i am not very far away with 578??
You still think i could benefit from 150mg e5d?

Average level is 679 for all men. That includes 60 year olds who get their T tested. Just take SARMs or steroids and lift weights to get ripped and look more high T. If you don't have low T symptoms then I don't see what TRT would do.

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

At 150mg E5D, you might as well just run high doses of HCG and Enclomiphene for your testes sake. That or just take real doses

 

[Casadonis]

But still free t is the only number that counts for muscle building and well beeing. If average t level is 679, then i am not very far away with 578??
You still think i could benefit from 150mg e5d?

the difference between say 500 ng/dl and 700 ng/dl is neglible in terms of lean mass. You would need substantial improvements in test levels to make an actual difference. I remember reading a study where the difference between 500 ng/dl and 1300 ng/dl was a few lbs of lean mass

 

[Deleted member 5927]

I am not sweating anymore in the gym, cant increase weights or muscle mass. I am at this t level since i take finasteride. Before i was even lower (300-350ng/dl), and felt the same as today. I am now 26, but was a total different person at 19/20yrs old. More agressive, dominant and muscular than today.

Wait does more sweat mean higher T levels?

 

[Deleted member 4332]

High & Low Testosterone Levels: Symptoms, Signs & Side Effects

High or low testosterone levels in men can cause symptoms and signs of weight gain, osteoporosis, decline in sexual desire, and a decline in physical energy and stamina. Higher than normal levels may normalize blood pressure and reduce the risk of obesity and heart attacks.

www.medicinenet.com

Average T level is 679 ng/ml for all males. If you're peak age then it should be higher.

" Moreover, some researchers suggest that the healthiest men have testosterone levels between 400-600 ng/dL. "

>400 ng/dL

 

[MentalistKebab]

" Moreover, some researchers suggest that the healthiest men have testosterone levels between 400-600 ng/dL. "

>400 ng/dL

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What is your levels ?

 

[Deleted member 4332]

What is your levels ?

Haven't got it tested before but I'd guess somewhere around 700-900 ng/dL

 

[MentalistKebab]

Haven't got it tested before but I'd guess somewhere around 700-900 ng/dL

Bro you cant say anything about peoples levels than. Yours might turn out to be 400 ng/dL

 

[Deleted member 4332]

Bro you cant say anything about peoples levels than. Yours might turn out to be 400 ng/dL

I wasnt insulting anyone's levels.

I was insulting the cucked doctors calling 400-600 "the healthiest range". Its clearly a soy agenda against men

 

[MentalistKebab]

I wasnt insulting anyone's levels.

I was insulting the cucked doctors calling 400-600 "the healthiest range". Its clearly a soy agenda against men

Oh okey. What is the healthiest range than ?
1200 ng/dL ?

 

[Deleted member 4332]

Oh okey. What is the healthiest range than ?
1200 ng/dL ?

In my opinion, healthiest natural range is 900 - 1500 ng/dL.

This is how it was in the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s before jews cucked everything with chemicals and birth control getting in the water and food.

 

[MentalistKebab]

In my opinion, healthiest natural range is 900 - 1500 ng/dL.

This is how it was in the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s before jews cucked everything with chemicals and birth control getting in the water and food.

Wait, were there tests from that era ?

 

[Deleted member 4332]

Wait, were there tests from that era ?

In the 1940s it was around 900 - 1400 ng/dL average range I'm pretty sure

btw It was in the 1950s that the Food and Drug Administration approved female hormone use in beef cattle and sheep.
And then after this, other chemicals started getting added too

 

[Subhuman trash]

In the 1940s it was around 900 - 1400 ng/dL average range I'm pretty sure

btw It was in the 1950s that the Food and Drug Administration approved female hormone use in beef cattle and sheep.
And then after this, other chemicals started getting added too

(((Food and drug administration)))