Would atrophying the nasalis muscle shrink the nasal base?

[devonhendryx999]

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I mean isotret does somewhat but it only targets the skin, not the muscle itself, including hydrocortisone and other compounds, I don't really see anyone talking about this, getting rid of dirt and sebum would visually shrink it but why not the internal part of the nose too to accentuate the effect? Especially around the alar base & dorsum area, could probably even give you a longer radix if this part is possibly hypertrophied

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Could this actually work tho? I wanna see some of ur takes

 

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To some extent--this is why people use botox on these muscles, though I'd say the difference is negligible when your face is at rest because these muscles are not chronically engaged.

Speaking from first-hand experience and my general understanding.

 

[devonhendryx999]

To some extent--this is why people use botox on these muscles, though I'd say the difference is negligible when your face is at rest because these muscles are not chronically engaged.

Speaking from first-hand experience and my general understanding.

By the way I was initially referring to surgical muscle excision to partially slim it out, on the other hand, as you said about Botox, is temporarily going to "atrophy" it to an extent, it directly reduces muscle contraction causing you to not engage and trigger extensive hypertrophy, though I wouldn't conclude this as atrophy, my implication is to shrink/weaken the muscle, by targeting the neuromuscular system through persistent denervation until it's accustomed to the ideal, I was thinking since neuromuscular and musculoskeletal systems conjoin together I would intervene by incrementally agonizing acetylcholine, since ACh receptors signal it with acetylcholine, I would progressively agonize my own neuromuscular system pharmacologically then commit to partial deactivation of the intended nerve area, but I would have to deliberately target the nasal area directly which is strenuous asf, and targeting my own receptors would fuck the rest of my muscles lol, so I would have to target the part influencing it, it isn't isolated which would obviously cause issues, I was conceptualizing about persistent innervation to induce permanent atrophy, then chronic unloading and loss of engagement, I theorize it as progressive muscle reduction, with the sequence shown earlier

I was thinking about this since if the bones are the underlying structure (pyriform aperture) and if your nasalis muscles are hypertrophied, whether or not you have ideal structure you'd be fucked regardless if those muscles aren't maintained, so the only way to maximize aesthetic expression is to atrophy it as well as reducing sebum and whatnot, and maybe, mimicking the way the botox systematically influences the nasalis would reduce it permanently rather than the result of having to constantly rely on it without actually remodelling anything which I'd say is just a temporary fraud

 

[devonhendryx999]

By the way I was initially referring to surgical muscle excision to partially slim it out, on the other hand, as you said about Botox, is temporarily going to "atrophy" it to an extent, it directly reduces muscle contraction causing you to not engage and trigger extensive hypertrophy, though I wouldn't conclude this as atrophy, my implication is to shrink/weaken the muscle, by targeting the neuromuscular system through persistent denervation until it's accustomed to the ideal, I was thinking since neuromuscular and musculoskeletal systems conjoin together I would intervene by incrementally agonizing acetylcholine, since ACh receptors signal it with acetylcholine, I would progressively agonize my own neuromuscular system pharmacologically then commit to partial deactivation of the intended nerve area, but I would have to deliberately target the nasal area directly which is strenuous asf, and targeting my own receptors would fuck the rest of my muscles lol, so I would have to target the part influencing it, it isn't isolated which would obviously cause issues, I was conceptualizing about persistent innervation to induce permanent atrophy, then chronic unloading and loss of engagement, I theorize it as progressive muscle reduction, with the sequence shown earlier

I was thinking about this since if the bones are the underlying structure (pyriform aperture) and if your nasalis muscles are hypertrophied, whether or not you have ideal structure you'd be fucked regardless if those muscles aren't maintained, so the only way to maximize aesthetic expression is to atrophy it as well as reducing sebum and whatnot, and maybe, mimicking the way the botox systematically influences the nasalis would reduce it permanently rather than the result of having to constantly rely on it without actually remodelling anything which I'd say is just a temporary fraud

I would have to directly target the nasalis which is fucking impractical to do, so how would I actually do it? And deliberately not using or engaging with it wouldn't do anything either so is there no other way but to remove it surgically

 

[aids]

By the way I was initially referring to surgical muscle excision to partially slim it out, on the other hand, as you said about Botox, is temporarily going to "atrophy" it to an extent, it directly reduces muscle contraction causing you to not engage and trigger extensive hypertrophy, though I wouldn't conclude this as atrophy, my implication is to shrink/weaken the muscle, by targeting the neuromuscular system through persistent denervation until it's accustomed to the ideal, I was thinking since neuromuscular and musculoskeletal systems conjoin together I would intervene by incrementally agonizing acetylcholine, since ACh receptors signal it with acetylcholine, I would progressively agonize my own neuromuscular system pharmacologically then commit to partial deactivation of the intended nerve area, but I would have to deliberately target the nasal area directly which is strenuous asf, and targeting my own receptors would fuck the rest of my muscles lol, so I would have to target the part influencing it, it isn't isolated which would obviously cause issues, I was conceptualizing about persistent innervation to induce permanent atrophy, then chronic unloading and loss of engagement, I theorize it as progressive muscle reduction, with the sequence shown earlier

I was thinking about this since if the bones are the underlying structure (pyriform aperture) and if your nasalis muscles are hypertrophied, whether or not you have ideal structure you'd be fucked regardless if those muscles aren't maintained, so the only way to maximize aesthetic expression is to atrophy it as well as reducing sebum and whatnot, and maybe, mimicking the way the botox systematically influences the nasalis would reduce it permanently rather than the result of having to constantly rely on it without actually remodelling anything which I'd say is just a temporary fraud

I would have to directly target the nasalis which is fucking impractical to do, so how would I actually do it? And deliberately not using or engaging with it wouldn't do anything either so is there no other way but to remove it surgically

Just get botox. You have recognised the problems with your own theory in these replies. Sure, botox is not permanent, but it's not like you're doing it daily.

 

[devonhendryx999]

Just get botox. You have recognised the problems with your own theory in these replies. Sure, botox is not permanent, but it's not like you're doing it daily.

I've thought so but shit, there really isn't another way I guess, I'll just get Botox and surgically get it removed when I'm done with it