Would Canthopexy be enough to fix my eye area or do I need implants

[teno]

I have a pretty bad nct and scelera show, do I need implants to fix it?

 

[Fransico]

yes, and you need Upper Eyelid Fat Grafting surgery (don't do it until you fix your tilt), then consider if you need to do the grafting.

 

[ScientiaAeterna]

I have a pretty bad nct and scelera show, do I need implants to fix it?

My eye ares is similar to yours.
Ima get infras + supras
after that ill do fat grafting + canthoplastic and both UEE-LEE reduction. If needed i'll ask for a canthopessy too
All at once. I'dd sey you should sure consider pretty much everything but boy.. we r talking bout eye area. That means it u get botched u will 100% rope. Invest in consultation and before doing anything fix all the others flaws.
For exemple ill do trimax and implants forst. While i do that ima study the best way (by consulting with professionals, none incel online type shit) to ascend properly eye area. Once the plan is done its easy couse its vert fast surgery and you'll heal faster then doing other stuff. Eye area wither makes u or breaks u

 

[teno]

My eye ares is similar to yours.
Ima get infras + supras
after that ill do fat grafting + canthoplastic and both UEE-LEE reduction. If needed i'll ask for a canthopessy too
All at once. I'dd sey you should sure consider pretty much everything but boy.. we r talking bout eye area. That means it u get botched u will 100% rope. Invest in consultation and before doing anything fix all the others flaws.
For exemple ill do trimax and implants forst. While i do that ima study the best way (by consulting with professionals, none incel online type shit) to ascend properly eye area. Once the plan is done its easy couse its vert fast surgery and you'll heal faster then doing other stuff. Eye area wither makes u or breaks u

Is it already planned?

 

[ScientiaAeterna]

Is it already planned?

Ye but I did zero braces in the past and i have to fix some crowding + get palate expansion of the upper jaw and possibly the lower one too. Basically I have to wait about 2 years before the surgery

 

[teno]

Ye but I did zero braces in the past and i have to fix some crowding + get palate expansion of the upper jaw and possibly the lower one too. Basically I have to wait about 2 years before the surgery

good for you bro, good luck! What surgeon if I may ask? Also could you maybe send your eye area?

 

[vermicel]

I have a pretty bad nct

No you don't. Neither negative nor neutral. Your canthal tilt is positive !

First, let's use a straightened picture :

Then, let's measure your canthal tilt as per the rule :

Here's the result :

It's roughly 3-4° positive. Ideal range varies slightly depending on the source ; some say 4-6°, others say 5-7°. Anyway, you're close to ideal range.

So your issue is NOT the canthal tilt.
What you most likely need is to elevate the lower lid. Canthopexy, lower lid retraction repair, spacer graft, and infraorbital implant are all surgical techniques allowing to achieve this goal. I can't tell you which one(s) is the most indicated in your personal case because I'm no expert and an in-person consultation may be necessary to determine the exact root cause of the problem and how to properly address it.

Morph fixing the lower lid / scleral show :

Once you're there, you may think "meh, my eyes still look negatively tilted". This is due to the slightly negative hooding of the upper lid. It tricks your brain into thinking that your whole eye is negatively tilted. So let's fix it with some fat graft targetting the medial part of the upper lid.

Morph with elevated lower lid and reduced medial upper lid exposure (straighter hooding) :

Finally, around the lateral canthus, make sure your eyelashes are curled slightly upward.
Annnnd ... problem solved. Don't you agree ?

 

[teno]

No you don't. Neither negative nor neutral. Your canthal tilt is positive !

First, let's use a straightened picture :
View attachment 4920515

Then, let's measure your canthal tilt as per the rule :
View attachment 4920519

Here's the result :
View attachment 4920524
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It's roughly 3-4° positive. Ideal range varies slightly depending on the source ; some say 4-6°, others say 5-7°. Anyway, you're close to ideal range.

So your issue is NOT the canthal tilt.
What you most likely need is to elevate the lower lid. Canthopexy, lower lid retraction repair, spacer graft, and infraorbital implant are all surgical techniques allowing to achieve this goal. I can't tell you which one(s) is the most indicated in your personal case because I'm no expert and an in-person consultation may be necessary to determine the exact root cause of the problem and how to properly address it.

Morph fixing the lower lid / scleral show :
View attachment 4920668

Once you're there, you may think "meh, my eyes still look negatively tilted". This is due to the slightly negative hooding of the upper lid. It tricks your brain into thinking that your whole eye is negatively tilted. So let's fix it with some fat graft targetting the medial part of the upper lid.

Morph with elevated lower lid and reduced medial upper lid exposure (straighter hooding) :
View attachment 4920710

Finally, around the lateral canthus, make sure your eyelashes are curled slightly upward.
Annnnd ... problem solved. Don't you agree ?

Yes I agree- great analysis. You’re actually the first person on this forum to say that I don’t have a negative canthal tilt. Your morphs are really good too—thanks a lot!

 

[Fax]

Yes I agree- great analysis. You’re actually the first person on this forum to say that I don’t have a negative canthal tilt. Your morphs are really good too—thanks a lot!

Are you a legit melon? I told you multiple times on your previous thread you didn't have a NCT.

And if anything your scleral show may just be down to angles...

Still, droopy lower lid.

 

[teno]

Are you a legit melon? I told you multiple times on your previous thread you didn't have a NCT.

And if anything your scleral show may just be down to angles...

Still, droopy lower lid.

Yea sorry, forgive me.

 

[Fax]

Yea sorry, forgive me.

yh yah fucking should be, don't disrespect me like that in the future you absolute chimney.

 

[teno]

Are you a legit melon? I told you multiple times on your previous thread you didn't have a NCT.

And if anything your scleral show may just be down to angles...

Still, droopy lower lid.

What would you do if you were in my position? I know you mentioned that surgery isn’t necessary, but I’m still really insecure about my eyes.

 

[Fax]

What would you do if you were in my position? I know you mentioned that surgery isn’t necessary, but I’m still really insecure about my eyes.

I'd start by saving with the intention of pursuing surgery.

In the meantime, i'd get a haircut, get a tan, get in the gym, get some nice fitting plain clothes and get my hormone levels checked.

If i still wasn't satisfied i'd look into soft-tissue procedures to address lower eyelid retraction, not implants.

 

[teno]

I'd start by saving with the intention of pursuing surgery.

In the meantime, i'd get a haircut, get a tan, get in the gym, get some nice fitting plain clothes and get my hormone levels checked.

If i still wasn't satisfied i'd look into soft-tissue procedures to address lower eyelid retraction, not implants.

Yeah, the thing is I want something permanent. Soft tissue procedures aren’t permanent, but implants are.

 

[Fax]

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[Ascendant2364]

I have a pretty bad nct and scelera show, do I need implants to fix it?

A little late but yes you should get a canthopexy as someone who is recovering from a one rn. Specifically ask for a Canthopexy with lower eyelid tarsorrhaphy

 

[teno]

A little late but yes you should get a canthopexy as someone who is recovering from a one rn. Specifically ask for a Canthopexy with lower eyelid tarsorrhaphy

Could you maybe post the results?

 

[lurking truecel]

You will look like a cag with contho pexy, fag maxiing surgery for the win

 

[teno]

You will look like a cag with contho pexy, fag maxiing surgery for the win

So how can I fix my eyes? Are Implants the only way?

 

[lurking truecel]

So how can I fix my eyes? Are Implants the only way?

Spacer grafts and canhtoplasty, fat graft. Implants prob not

 

[teno]

Spacer grafts and canhtoplasty, fat graft. Implants prob not

Wait, I thought canthopexy is the permanent version of canthoplasty? Why do you prefer canthoplasty?

 

[lurking truecel]

Wait, I thought canthopexy is the permanent version of canthoplasty? Why do you prefer canthoplasty?

Camthopexy is not the permanent version, canthopexy is dog water

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

I wouldnt really call it bad 1-2mm of show is normal but yes obvi it looks better without.

Wait, I thought canthopexy is the permanent version of canthoplasty?

No, there are dozens of surgeries that end with plasty. None of them are temporary.