would marpe/mse + rph ascend me?

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so recently i realized i can’t get hollow cheeks because my zygos are flat, then i came to the conclusion i can get a skeletal expander to widen my palate to change my 8 tooth smile, and to push my cheekbones and zygos more out, while at the same time i have a reverse pull headgear appliance pulling my maxilla forward because my suture is very malleable since it is being opened by a expander. if you guys can please make a realistic morph of what i’d look like if i went through with someone like this because idk maybe i shouldn’t get expansion because i can look uncanny, but i have eyebags, flat zygos, bad ccw rotation, and bad maxillary projection.
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ngl marpe would just make ur eyes farther apart than they already are

and ur clockwise rotation is fine bud lol ur just a dumbass
 
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ngl marpe would just make ur eyes farther apart than they already are

and ur clockwise rotation is fine bud lol ur just a dumbass
my chin is badly down grown i don’t think my ccw rotation is fine
 
my chin is badly down grown i don’t think my ccw rotation is fine
it isnt u retard, if it was ur chin would be excessively long 😭😭

but whatever bro hope u dont botch urself by being a literal schizo to ur flaws :lul::lul::lul:
 
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it isnt u retard, if it was ur chin would be excessively long 😭😭

but whatever bro hope u dont botch urself by being a literal schizo to ur flaws :lul::lul::lul:
then what do i need to do to ascend? like i said i cant achieve hollow cheeks, the image i provided angelmaxxes and lightingmaxxes in reality i have ogee curves in only really good lighting. my eyebags are shit, i have slight nasolabial folds, i have only a 8 tooth smile. all of these are signs of a poo maxilla no? or am i somehow wrong
 
Fellow schizo welcome to ur very own hell with this sickness.😢 Gl we'll need it. I haven't gone outside in 3 years myself from thinking something is always wrong with me😢
my chin is badly down grown i don’t think my ccw rotation is fine
 
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Fellow schizo welcome to ur very own hell with this sickness.😢 Gl we'll need it. I haven't gone outside in 3 years myself from thinking something is always wrong with me😢
not even top male models like jordan barret ever are satisfied with their looks, makes me more insecure in a way lol
 
then what do i need to do to ascend? like i said i cant achieve hollow cheeks, the image i provided angelmaxxes and lightingmaxxes in reality i have ogee curves in only really good lighting. my eyebags are shit, i have slight nasolabial folds, i have only a 8 tooth smile. all of these are signs of a poo maxilla no? or am i somehow wrong
i would say mse or just a palate expander and then some braces would be fine enough, u only really need some expansion to make ur smile better

ur maxilla isnt really bad at all either, u would just be dogmaxxed if u got a lot more forward growth cuz of ur forehead, ur orbital vector is also positive. i dont see any eyebags/nasolabial folds tho what r u talking about?

just implants would be fine tho to not be boneless and it would improve ur esr a bit ig
 
i would say mse or just a palate expander and then some braces would be fine enough, u only really need some expansion to make ur smile better
so you genuinely see no issue with my zygo projection? in my last thread everyone was saying my maxilla was shit and that i got flat zygos.
ur maxilla isnt really bad at all either, u would just be dogmaxxed if u got a lot more forward growth cuz of ur forehead, ur orbital vector is also positive. i dont see any eyebags/nasolabial folds tho what r u talking about?
i think the tan made it look like i have no eyebags and folds, but at the widest part of my nose start following my cheek line and you’ll see a crease, as for my eyebags just legit zoom right under my eye and you’ll see just how purple it gets lol. also how much more forward growth would be ideal then? because idk a lot of different people say a lot of different shit so it gets to a point of where i genuinely don’t know what’s true.
just implants would be fine tho to not be boneless and it would improve ur esr a bit ig
where would i get implants then? cheeks/zygos? or jaw? also i think my slightly un ideal esr is what makes my eye are somewhat more harmonious
 
so you genuinely see no issue with my zygo projection? in my last thread everyone was saying my maxilla was shit and that i got flat zygos.
yea thats why i said to get implants for your bizygo, and if u were get bimax or some shit for forward growth u would need forehead implants or ur facial convexity will be thrown off
i think the tan made it look like i have no eyebags and folds, but at the widest part of my nose start following my cheek line and you’ll see a crease, as for my eyebags just legit zoom right under my eye and you’ll see just how purple it gets lol. also how much more forward growth would be ideal then? because idk a lot of different people say a lot of different shit so it gets to a point of where i genuinely don’t know what’s true.
ur just describing a lack of fat, fat grafts would be a good option to fix your tear trough lines
where would i get implants then? cheeks/zygos? or jaw? also i think my slightly un ideal esr is what makes my eye are somewhat more harmonious
u would need both since ur jaw isnt really wide so it would fuck up ur harmony to just get cheek implants
 
yea thats why i said to get implants for your bizygo, and if u were get bimax or some shit for forward growth u would need forehead implants or ur facial convexity will be thrown off
well call me a retard if i’m wrong but the marpe/mse legit pushes out the zygos, and you’re literally admitting the fact my zygos are flat and that’s due to recessed maxilla issues which is followed up by my eyebags and nasolabial folds, not missing fat pads.
 
well call me a retard if i’m wrong but the marpe/mse legit pushes out the zygos, and you’re literally admitting the fact my zygos are flat and that’s due to recessed maxilla issues which is followed up by my eyebags and nasolabial folds, not missing fat pads.
yea it will but it also pushes out the orbitals more which will increase ur intercanthal distance, mfr, esr, and eme, u just dont understand how mse/marpe effects the face.

and how do u know its not ur fat pads? when u feel around ur under eyes does the skin feel thin?
 
yea it will but it also pushes out the orbitals more which will increase ur intercanthal distance, mfr, esr, and eme, u just dont understand how mse/marpe effects the face.

and how do u know its not ur fat pads? when u feel around ur under eyes does the skin feel thin?
isn’t my esr and intercanthal distance short already? also the amount my eyes move will be less then a mm so in a good or bad way my eye area will barely change. what will however drastically change is the zygomatic projection and cheekbone. if i do not need rph ill just get mse but i doubt i wont need rph since alot of my issues are related to a bad maxilla.

well when i pull my skin around my eyes upwards the eyebags almost disappear, but yes the skin around them is thin. so its a issue of both fat and maxillary projection, or zygos
 
isn’t my esr and intercanthal distance short already?
no ur esr is wide but ur icd is ideal because ur pfl is really wide. ur ocd may be too wide though because of it
also the amount my eyes move will be less then a mm so in a good or bad way my eye area will barely change.
a small change doesnt mean no change
well when i pull my skin around my eyes upwards the eyebags almost disappear, but yes the skin around them is thin. so its a issue of both fat and maxillary projection, or zygos
ur orbital vector is literally positive holy shit what do u not understand that its a fat padding issue 😭😭😭
 
no ur esr is wide but ur icd is ideal because ur pfl is really wide. ur ocd may be too wide though because of it
oh thanks for the insight
a small change doesnt mean no change
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i beg you overlay the after photo over the before photo by exactly placing it on the spot the ears are in the exact same place, then change the overlay level and see how much eye difference there is, you won’t see anything.
ur orbital vector is literally positive holy shit what do u not understand that its a fat padding issue 😭😭😭
then like what would explain my flat zygos and cheekbones? i dont wanna doubt you since you seem intelligent but i cant figure out why i have these issues, as far as ik they’re not genetic and issues like these only persist with maxilla issues
 
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i beg you overlay the after photo over the before photo by exactly placing it on the spot the ears are in the exact same place, then change the overlay level and see how much eye difference there is, you won’t see anything.
im not saying this just to make me sound right, but u can visually see theres a difference in intercanthal distance lol

he looks worse in the after too
then like what would explain my flat zygos and cheekbones? i dont wanna doubt you since you seem intelligent but i cant figure out why i have these issues, as far as ik they’re not genetic and issues like these only persist with maxilla issues
zygos and cheekbones are the same thing, but its not always an issue with ur palate/maxilla
 
im not saying this just to make me sound right, but u can visually see theres a difference in intercanthal distance lol

he looks worse in the after too

zygos and cheekbones are the same thing, but its not always an issue with ur palate/maxilla
if you say my maxilla is fine and that i don’t need expansion, only a normal palate expander. and if i want to avoid surgery. could baby fat possibly one of the issues why my cheekbones don’t project as much? like i don’t wanna cope because id rather not be uncanny
 
so recently i realized i can’t get hollow cheeks because my zygos are flat, then i came to the conclusion i can get a skeletal expander to widen my palate to change my 8 tooth smile, and to push my cheekbones and zygos more out, while at the same time i have a reverse pull headgear appliance pulling my maxilla forward because my suture is very malleable since it is being opened by a expander. if you guys can please make a realistic morph of what i’d look like if i went through with someone like this because idk maybe i shouldn’t get expansion because i can look uncanny, but i have eyebags, flat zygos, bad ccw rotation, and bad maxillary projection.View attachment 4340373View attachment 4340374View attachment 4340375View attachment 4340376
how do you acheive this eye area
 
so recently i realized i can’t get hollow cheeks because my zygos are flat, then i came to the conclusion i can get a skeletal expander to widen my palate to change my 8 tooth smile, and to push my cheekbones and zygos more out, while at the same time i have a reverse pull headgear appliance pulling my maxilla forward because my suture is very malleable since it is being opened by a expander. if you guys can please make a realistic morph of what i’d look like if i went through with someone like this because idk maybe i shouldn’t get expansion because i can look uncanny, but i have eyebags, flat zygos, bad ccw rotation, and bad maxillary projection.View attachment 4340373View attachment 4340374View attachment 4340375View attachment 4340376
Holy IPD
 
well yea i mean u can tell by ur bizygomatic width that bone is the issue 😭
brooo that’s exactly why i wanted mse, id prefer not to have surgery but mse could fuck up my nose and eyes apparently, so my question for you is it worth it? like say you’re anti surgery right. would the chance of fucking up your eyes and nose, for wider lips and better zygos which will give u hollow cheeks, would you risk it, or should i?
 
brooo that’s exactly why i wanted mse, id prefer not to have surgery but mse could fuck up my nose and eyes apparently, so my question for you is it worth it? like say you’re anti surgery right. would the chance of fucking up your eyes and nose, for wider lips and better zygos which will give u hollow cheeks, would you risk it, or should i?
Ehh I wouldn’t do it if I were u, u look as if u could get some jbs now anyways but in the future you’ll be fucked because of ur dimo

U do need a rhino now that I think about it. Theres also a surgery to make ur lips wider anyways
 
brooo that’s exactly why i wanted mse, id prefer not to have surgery but mse could fuck up my nose and eyes apparently, so my question for you is it worth it? like say you’re anti surgery right. would the chance of fucking up your eyes and nose, for wider lips and better zygos which will give u hollow cheeks, would you risk it, or should i?
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U do need a rhino now that I think about it. Theres also a surgery to make ur lips wider anyways
i can see a future where id get a rhino icl. but why wouldn’t you get mse if you where me?
 
it means jail bait like girls that are under the age of 18
brah is that supposed to mean i’m good looking enough to get young girls or that im like above average and girls under 18 are my only reach. i hear lots of ratings for what i look like. its always between htn and cl. and it doesn’t bother me too much but sometimes im a bit self conscious and insecure because ik what features are fucked up
 
harmony, youll probably look worse rather than better after
what would you say my harmony is rn then? and would you say majority of it is because of my eyes?
 
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brah is that supposed to mean i’m good looking enough to get young girls or that im like above average and girls under 18 are my only reach
nah im just saying younger girls would like ur look because ur dimorphism is lower and u have good averageness
its always between htn and cl.
ur mhtn, u look good

u should have ur hair lighter again imo it looks very good on u
 
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nah im just saying younger girls would like ur look because ur dimorphism is lower and u have good averageness

ur mhtn, u look good

u should have ur hair lighter again imo it looks very good on u
bro this girl i was talking to preferred my brown hair 💔 it’s either because i tanned or because she genuinely likes brown hair but she’s a stacy so brutal
 
nah im just saying younger girls would like ur look because ur dimorphism is lower and u have good averageness

ur mhtn, u look good

u should have ur hair lighter again imo it looks very good on u
brahhh then what can i do then to like probably reach cl because im gonna be really ugly when i turn 30 and will hit my prime during 18-21.
 
high 70s range, ive analyzed a lot of faces u look as if youd be around that area based off what ive seen

ur are probably ur worst feature in terms of just ratios dude
70s is not bad ig especially for ppl who rot on .org.

dude i thought my eyes where the best feature, like not to sound egotistical but everyone always compliments them
 
70s is not bad ig especially for ppl who rot on .org.

dude i thought my eyes where the best feature, like not to sound egotistical but everyone always compliments them


Dm his dis shet over posting it public
 
bro this girl i was talking to preferred my brown hair 💔 it’s either because i tanned or because she genuinely likes brown hair but she’s a stacy so brutal
shes probably not a stacy most likely htb lol

u newfags just dont know how to rate women 🥺🥺

but yea its because u were tan, light hair + tan best combo or dark hair + pale
brahhh then what can i do then to like probably reach cl because im gonna be really ugly when i turn 30 and will hit my prime during 18-21.
idk im tired nih
70s is not bad ig especially for ppl who rot on .org.
yeh mine is unironically the highest ive measured so far besides doutzen kroes and adriana lima (but they're female so i mean its not really comparable)

but im sure ill find someone with better harmony than me eventually like tom cruise or hexum probably has better harmony than me i guarantee, my rating is also capped because of my dimorphism 🥺
dude i thought my eyes where the best feature, like not to sound egotistical but everyone always compliments them
its because they visually look good, i was just saying ur harmony isnt the greatest thats all.
 
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