Would you accept to get into a LTR with a HQNP but she’s a little naive, loyal and….most important of all…a low MTB?

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Her best friend contacts you and reveals that she has feelings for you. Fuck I never thought of her in that way man. I was just having a decent hangout sessions together with our friend group. It’s been what like 3-4 hangouts now and I later come to know this new girl is about to flunk her exams due to the amount of obsession she’s having internally with @Dr. Mog

She apparently overthinks everything- that girl on my Instagram story, that girl I mentioned who approached me for a group project in class. She’s a straight A student (which is something I ain’t yet) who’s now on the verge of flunking. I’ve only seen her as a friend as of now, she’s great to hangout and chit chat and my energy doesn’t drain with her.

I have this condition, maybe after the Eugenics theory of Blackpillosophy that if a girl isn’t atleast H-MTB and above I don’t think of that person sexually and they are just ‘friends’. I’m probably like 1.5 PSL above her if you look through the counterparts so this is NOT a proper looksmatch but not too bad either. If I do accept this it’ll be a downgrade from my previous relationship which was a legit High HTB borderlining stacylite so my ego is coming in the way and ego is telling me “come on your fool, do better”. If not, I’ll be still single (something I’m fine with too tbrh) just as usual and carry on with my busy life.

Tagging high IQs for their input:-
@Mogs Me (don’t joke around this time nigga) @HXTRED999 @registerfasterusing @Swarthy Knight
 
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Tagging more high IQs

@4ever @Van @Sprinkles @LTNUser @Foreverbrad
 
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Fuck her and dip tbh
 
Fuck her and dip tbh
You gotta understand the optics youngin. Fuck her and dip and what’s that gotta make of me within the group optics? I’ll lose friends. I want the group hangout. And tbrh with you she isn’t the fuck her and dump types.

Also those short term gratification strategies are against my code of ethics.


Bitch ahh nigga replied just yeah
 
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@Jatt @CorinthianLOX @irrumator praetor @User28823 @Insomnia
 
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no foid is loyal

wait for robotic ai flesh sex robots
 
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You can get into a relationship with her just so you can make her help you study, cheat on exams or write some "homework" docs for you (in my country they make us write protocols about diseases, but I never wrote a single one - girls who like me do it for me)
 
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Just looksmax her if she’s really high quality (eg virgin)
 
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Just looksmax her if she’s really high quality (eg virgin)
She is I reckon. Very laid back since she doesn’t come from a proper city with subways and stuff but comes from a really wealthy background.

Your advice stands true, I could looksmax her, she’s very non-promiscuous and doesn’t wear half naked dresses or even post pics even after our beach party. Ive seen good looking guys on her follow requests but she doesn’t accept them because she ‘doesn’t know them’ irl. No download history of OLD either. This is somewhat opposite to what my H-HTB-stacylite ex was but come on man…..she was hella attractive and increased my status whereas this one is a PSL below me :pepefrown: my ego is coming in the way of what my ex or friends would think. This would legit be a downgrade in terms of looks but an upgrade in every other way.

Blackpill was a curse.
 
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She is I reckon. Very laid back since she doesn’t come from a proper city with subways and stuff but comes from a really wealthy background.

Your advice stands true, I could looksmax her, she’s very non-promiscuous and doesn’t wear half naked dresses or even post pics even after our beach party. Ive seen good looking guys on her follow requests but she doesn’t accept them because she ‘doesn’t know them’ irl. No download history of OLD either. This is somewhat opposite to what my H-HTB-stacylite ex was but come on man…..she was hella attractive and increased my status whereas this one is a PSL below me :pepefrown: my ego is coming in the way of what my ex or friends would think. This would legit be a downgrade in terms of looks but an upgrade in every other way.

Blackpill was a curse.

Honestly in 2026 just one PSL below is doing well.
Don’t fall into the trap I did of trying to upgrade while men’s SMV as a whole is plummeting. I’ve gone from having a virgin MTB to being literal trucel and there’s no sign of it ever getting better.
 
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Only time I would consider getting into a relationship with a girl is if she’s my female counterpart. We share the same hobbies, same views, etc.

In your case, you should probably trust your gut, do whatever feels right.
 
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Honestly in 2026 just one PSL below is doing well.
Don’t fall into the trap I did of trying to upgrade while men’s SMV as a whole is plummeting. I’ve gone from having a virgin MTB to being literal trucel and there’s no sign of it ever getting better.
So that’s what preventing you from the 43rd slay count? Honestly looking at your stats you are just a volcel and if I reject this girl rn a Volcel is exactly what I would describe myself as correct?

Maybe if you lowered your standards from a legit Stacy to a low HTB you might slay again. Don’t tell me no girl has approached, showed interest or whatsoever since last 2 years judging by your history. That downfall is crazy.
 
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So that’s what preventing you from the 43rd slay count? Honestly looking at your stats you are just a volcel and if I reject this girl rn a Volcel is exactly what I would describe myself as correct?

Maybe if you lowered your standards from a legit Stacy to a low HTB you might slay again. Don’t tell me no girl has approached, showed interest or whatsoever since last 2 years judging by your history. That downfall is crazy.

HQNP virgin girls are wife material, it’s not about being incel or volcel at that point. These are rare unicorns and your chances of finding one will quickly go to zero as the years pass. I consider it as a separate problem to slaying - a relationship with a girl like that is infinitely more satisfying.

My standards are already extremely low for slaying. These are examples of the looks level of girls that will reject me / ghost after a few dry messages these days. Unless I go for literal landwhale subhumans AND simp for them, I’m not getting sex without paying.

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And yes, I’ve had no IRL interest… ever, really. I only ever slayed from Tinder and that’s clearly no longer working. Maybe after I finish my surgery plan and do a tren cycle I might be able to get LTBs.
 
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yeah
 
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help her ascend and pop the trunk daily
 
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HQNP virgin girls are wife material, it’s not about being incel or volcel at that point. These are rare unicorns and your chances of finding one will quickly go to zero as the years pass. I consider it as a separate problem to slaying - a relationship with a girl like that is infinitely more satisfying.

My standards are already extremely low for slaying. These are examples of the looks level of girls that will reject me / ghost after a few dry messages these days. Unless I go for literal landwhale subhumans AND simp for them, I’m not getting sex without paying.

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And yes, I’ve had no IRL interest… ever, really. I only ever slayed from Tinder and that’s clearly no longer working. Maybe after I finish my surgery plan and do a tren cycle I might be able to get LTBs.
Are you disabled and disfigured in any kind? Cause What The fuck these LTBs are the ones rejecting you at being a 6’2 gymcel Brit

The last time I was sexually/romantically active was around same time as you, somewhat 2 years back. Has the market gone really that low? Then wait a bloody second and tell me who are these women even gonna settle with if they catfish you considering you are facially a MTN atleast and judging by your other stats and the large slay count. Were they just paid prostitutes by any chance or legit liked you? I’m thinking it’s the latter judging by your character. You are also in your early 30s and I remember you being late 20s the first time i joined with my previous account so settling down with marriage might also be something up your alley at the back of your head. Don’t tell me it’s not.
 
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Are you disabled and disfigured in any kind? Cause What The fuck these LTBs are the ones rejecting you at being a 6’2 gymcel Brit

The last time I was sexually/romantically active was around same time as you, somewhat 2 years back. Has the market gone really that low? Then wait a bloody second and tell me who are these women even gonna settle with if they catfish you considering you are facially a MTN atleast and judging by your other stats and the large slay count. Were they just paid prostitutes by any chance or legit liked you? I’m thinking it’s the latter judging by your character. You are also in your early 30s and I remember you being late 20s the first time i joined with my previous account so settling down with marriage might also be something up your alley at the back of your head. Don’t tell me it’s not.

My 45 slay count was all from tinder, I removed the 5 prostitutes from it as it didn’t seem right to be including them. I don’t enjoy paid sex. Out of those 45, one was an LTR, 4 were repeat hookups (up to 4 times) and the rest were 1 offs.

I guess these women are happy to share the HTN+ guys as long as they’re still fuckable and will settle with a betabux once they’re completely chopped from age. It really doesn’t take a lot of HTN+ guys to monopolise the dating market. Things definitely got worse in the past 2-3 years, women/normies being more looks-aware is just leading them to be even more picky and judgemental while also raising the average.

I’m facially an MTN or potentially even lower now relative to the new average so it is understandable that I’m not getting great results considering my physique is only average (every normie is a gymcel now) and my skeletal frame is fairly weak (20 inch bidelt on a good day).

I think with Trimax for my recession, fat grafting for my bug eyes, a good Tren cycle to get my physique to really stand out again and everything I can possibly throw at the visible aging problem, I might have a chance to slay these kind of LTBs again or even higher - I do have a suspicion that supply and demand is so broken in this dating market that any girl who’s non-fat LTB or higher has only marginal differences in SMV so you are either incel or you can get any girl you want and there’s virtually nothing in between.

If I’m settling down with marriage it’s either going to be with the impossible to find unicorn virgin OR I’m just going to marry for money. Ran through roasties are ran through roasties, they are literally all the same to me.
 
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Idk start things casually I guess
 
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My 45 slay count was all from tinder, I removed the 5 prostitutes from it as it didn’t seem right to be including them. I don’t enjoy paid sex. Out of those 45, one was an LTR, 4 were repeat hookups (up to 4 times) and the rest were 1 offs.

I guess these women are happy to share the HTN+ guys as long as they’re still fuckable and will settle with a betabux once they’re completely chopped from age. It really doesn’t take a lot of HTN+ guys to monopolise the dating market. Things definitely got worse in the past 2-3 years, women/normies being more looks-aware is just leading them to be even more picky and judgemental while also raising the average.

I’m facially an MTN or potentially even lower now relative to the new average so it is understandable that I’m not getting great results considering my physique is only average (every normie is a gymcel now) and my skeletal frame is fairly weak (20 inch bidelt on a good day).

I think with Trimax for my recession, fat grafting for my bug eyes, a good Tren cycle to get my physique to really stand out again and everything I can possibly throw at the visible aging problem, I might have a chance to slay these kind of LTBs again or even higher - I do have a suspicion that supply and demand is so broken in this dating market that any girl who’s non-fat LTB or higher has only marginal differences in SMV so you are either incel or you can get any girl you want and there’s virtually nothing in between.

If I’m settling down with marriage it’s either going to be with the impossible to find unicorn virgin OR I’m just going to marry for money. Ran through roasties are ran through roasties, they are literally all the same to me.
I get what you are saying. You are telling me that the dating (for the first time in human history btw) is now a monopoly. Like multiple women are okay with being with ONE chad :chad: is this what you wanted to covey?

I deem it insignificant to justify the fact that every woman LTB onward is just marginally higher in SMV yet I know it’s true. They will see multiple factors like looks, status, money, social connections a man has before settling down and SMV changes accordingly but for settling down with a woman? All she needs is some good looks and some guts.
 
You gotta understand the optics youngin. Fuck her and dip and what’s that gotta make of me within the group optics? I’ll lose friends. I want the group hangout. And tbrh with you she isn’t the fuck her and dump types.

Also those short term gratification strategies are against my code of ethics.



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You have high iq to think for yourself. Don't take other's opinions on this.
 

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