Would you rather be: Chadlite PSL/low appeal, or HTN PSL/high appeal?

[Xangsane]

Would you rather be....

a Chadlite with low appeal...

...or a HTN with high appeal?

 

[Xangsane]

@Br0sk1 @PearlHandledDeck @Chadeep @Chinacurry @Octillionaire3 @Time Travel @Biggdink @PrinterAndFaxMachin @DoctorLooksmax @StrangerDanger

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I don’t care about girls I just want to bully people

 

[Xangsane]

I don’t care about girls I just want to bully people

Doesn't have to be centred around them. Just choose who you'd rather be.

 

[the BULL]

i don't have to choose

 

[Xangsane]

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i don't have to choose

Badg96 tier physique

 

[the BULL]

Badg96 tier physique

we come from gladiators it's natural

 

[Br0sk1]

HTN high appeal. Being Matt Williams tier is good enough and no one would ever really think you're ugly except maybe the Chad worshippers here and women with insane standards that will never be satisfied by anyone.

 

[Xangsane]

we come from gladiators it's natural

You're inferior.​

 

[sytyl]

htn with high appeal

but in the examples you gave, chadlite, that guy is not htn he looks normie or less

 

[Xangsane]

HTN high appeal. Being Matt Williams tier is good enough and no one would ever really think you're ugly except maybe the Chad worshippers here and women with insane standards that will never be satisfied by anyone.

Do you think HTN with high appeal would get access to higher SMV foids than Chadlites with low appeal?

 

[Xangsane]

htn with high appeal

but in the examples you gave, chadlite, that guy is not htn he looks normie or less

Which guy isn't HTN?
Why HTN with high appeal?

 

[Deleted member 15004]

lmao that's not what a Chadlite is, I'd say he's high-tier normie as well (Saint Gonzalocel). I'd pick HTN anyways

 

[Xangsane]

lmao that's not what a Chadlite is, I'd say he's high-tier normie as well (Saint Gonzalocel). I'd pick HTN anyways

Why HTN with high appeal?

 

[slayer69]

OP 2nd guy is not high appeal he is incel

 

[sytyl]

Which guy isn't HTN?
Why HTN with high appeal?

facially the guy you said is htn is not htn to me... just halod by physique and style imo

 

[Br0sk1]

htn with high appeal

but in the examples you gave, chadlite, that guy is not htn he looks normie or less

Dude, I think you need to touch grass if you think Matt Williams is less than MTN.

I think a good case can be made that he's appealmaxxed MTN rather than HTN, but certainly no less than that.

 

[sytyl]

I think a good case can be made that he's appealmaxxed MTN rather than HTN, but certainly no less than that.

yeah, he just looks normal (facially) to me, maybe a bit less

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Dude, I think you need to touch grass if you think Matt Williams is less than MTN.

I think a good case can be made that he's appealmaxxed MTN rather than HTN, but certainly no less than that.

yeah lmao this Matt Williams guy is an appealmaxxed stylemaxxed MTN with good photos anything less like you said is crazy. He just looks average not a HTN imo

 

[Br0sk1]

Do you think HTN with high appeal would get access to higher SMV foids than Chadlites with low appeal?

I think potentially, but it's hard to say exactly. I think Matt Williams would have access to NT Stacylites, whereas Stacylites will usually be out of reach for Gonzalo unless they're alt foids.

However, I have a hunch that Gonzalo would maybe have access to an alt Stacy if one ever came along on apps (would be rare as hen's teeth though) whereas Williams would not have access to any Stacies because he lacks the looks.

 

[Xangsane]

OP 2nd guy is not high appeal he is incel

I'm talking about bad fashion sense VS high sex appeal

 

[Xangsane]

facially the guy you said is htn is not htn to me... just halod by physique and style imo
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What about the other guy?

 

[Xangsane]

Dude, I think you need to touch grass if you think Matt Williams is less than MTN.

I think a good case can be made that he's appealmaxxed MTN rather than HTN, but certainly no less than that.

MTN-HTN seems fair

 

[Xangsane]

yeah lmao this Matt Williams guy is an appealmaxxed stylemaxxed MTN with good photos anything less like you said is crazy. He just looks average not a HTN imo

What sorts of foids would both have access to?

 

[slayer69]

I'm talking about bad fashion sense VS high sex appeal

he's not high sex appeal
fashion/clothes u wear dont matter as long as they fit and are not baggy

 

[sytyl]

What about the other guy?

looks chad to me but uncanny

 

[Chinacurry]

2nd guy

 

[Xangsane]

I think potentially, but it's hard to say exactly. I think Matt Williams would have access to NT Stacylites, whereas Stacylites will usually be out of reach for Gonzalo unless they're alt foids.

However, I have a hunch that Gonzalo would maybe have access to an alt Stacy if one ever came along on apps (would be rare as hen's teeth though) whereas Williams would not have access to any Stacies because he lacks the looks.

From your experiments, who did Matt Williams match with?
With Gonzalo, a lot of his matches were disproportionately alt girls (I don't know exactly why he attracts alt foids).
Also IRL, alt foids tend to be seen as "lower value" because of the stereotypes associated with them, and there are more less attractive foids in this category than NT foids.

Alt stacies are extremely rare.

In reality, the man himself married a redhead Becky, but if a clone of him were to exist, he'd most likely end up with an alt HTB.
As for Matt Williams, an NT HTB or even Stacylite due to his appeal.

 

[Xangsane]

2nd guy

Why him over the other guy?

looks chad to me but uncanny

He married a MTB.
Are you surprised?

 

[Xangsane]

he's not high sex appeal
fashion/clothes u wear dont matter as long as they fit and are not baggy

Look at the muscle composition on the two.

 

[slayer69]

Look at the muscle composition on the two.

literally same muscle as my normie friends who dont even gymcel

 

[Xangsane]

literally same muscle as my normie friends who dont even gymcel

One is slim or skinnyfat, the other is somewhat athletic.
The latter is enough to wet the panties of foids.

 

[slayer69]

The latter is enough to wet the panties of foids.

srs? lifefuel if so

 

[Br0sk1]

From your experiments, who did Matt Williams match with?
With Gonzalo, a lot of his matches were disproportionately alt girls (I don't know exactly why he attracts alt foids).
Also IRL, alt foids tend to be seen as "lower value" because of the stereotypes associated with them, and there are more less attractive foids in this category than NT foids.

Alt stacies are extremely rare.

In reality, the man himself married a redhead Becky, but if a clone of him were to exist, he'd most likely end up with an alt HTB.
As for Matt Williams, an NT HTB or even Stacylite due to his appeal.

I only really caught a glimpse of the one Matt Williams experiment covered here. I've never done any Williamsfishing on apps myself. Could be worth a try in London to make sure that the experiment didn't go well simply because Montreal is easy mode because of the population of French manlets. I could try this by locationspoofing there and then making a shell FB account (how I've done catfishing in the past) if I can find the time/interest.

Agreed that if you made clones of both men, Gonzalos would generally end up with alt HTBs as their S.O.s whereas Matts would end up with NT HTBs or Stacylites, who would probably be curvy and high sex appeal too.

 

[Xangsane]

srs? lifefuel if so

Yeah, @Br0sk1 has seen some Tinder experiments on him
He matched with legit Stacylites

 

[Deleted member 15004]

What sorts of foids would both have access to?

Matt would have access to the partygoing club going heavy drinker foids and all those types while Gonzalocel would get the niche alt femcel type girls imo

 

[slayer69]

Yeah, @Br0sk1 has seen some Tinder experiments on him
He matched with legit Stacylites

Mirin hard

is it like this?

 

[Xangsane]

I only really caught a glimpse of the one Matt Williams experiment covered here. I've never done any Williamsfishing on apps myself. Could be worth a try in London to make sure that the experiment didn't go well simply because Montreal is easy mode because of the population of French manlets. I could try this by locationspoofing there and then making a shell FB account (how I've done catfishing in the past) if I can find the time/interest.

Agreed that if you made clones of both men, Gonzalos would generally end up with an alt HTB as his S.O. whereas Matts would end up with an NT HTB or Stacylite, who would probably be curvy and high sex appeal too.

You can Williamsfish in London. I suggest not Gonzalofishing anywhere in the UK as he now has a wife (MTB non-alt redhead).
I'd love to see the results of a Williamsfish.

I agree with the SO choices of those men. I wonder why Gonzalocel seems to appeal to alt foids so much.

I think the men on this mog battle (with the exception of Tom/Gonzalocel) would generally have access to Stacylite+ foids, and would LTR NT Stacylites or Stacies only:

Tinder Slayers of 2020 (from Lookism.net)

Who mogs? James Felix Chris Sam Tom (Saint Gonzalocel) Theo Jorge Tom

looksmax.org

I also believe that having low appeal penalizes men more than foids.

 

[Xangsane]

Matt would have access to the partygoing club going heavy drinker foids and all those types while Gonzalocel would get the niche alt femcel type girls imo

I agree with this. I don't know why Gonzalocel seems to attract alt girls so much (his wife isn't alt but is MTB).

I think of all these men, with the exception of Gonzalocel, would have access to NT Stacylite+ foids:

Tinder Slayers of 2020 (from Lookism.net)

Who mogs? James Felix Chris Sam Tom (Saint Gonzalocel) Theo Jorge Tom

looksmax.org

 

[Br0sk1]

You can Williamsfish in London. I suggest not Gonzalofishing anywhere in the UK as he now has a wife (MTB non-alt redhead).
I'd love to see the results of a Williamsfish.

I agree with the SO choices of those men. I wonder why Gonzalocel seems to appeal to alt foids so much.

I think the men on this mog battle (with the exception of Tom/Gonzalocel) would generally have access to Stacylite+ foids, and would LTR NT Stacylites or Stacies only:

Tinder Slayers of 2020 (from Lookism.net)

Who mogs? James Felix Chris Sam Tom (Saint Gonzalocel) Theo Jorge Tom

looksmax.org

I also believe that having low appeal penalizes men more than foids.

I'll have to try Williams in London sometime. Not gonna pay for the Tinder passport though. Gotta find another way.

Agreed about the men in that mog battle. Most of those guys seem fairly primal though and would probably pump and dump a lot of Beckies in the meantime though.

Also agreed about the appeal penalty. On a personal note, this is probably the biggest factor killing my chances on dating apps.

 

[Deleted member 9801]

2nd guy is high appeal??

 

[Xangsane]

2nd guy is high appeal??

Yes, a lot of Stacies and Stacylites matched with him in Canada.
The first guy matched with so many alt Beckies. In reality, his wife is MTB.

 

[Xangsane]

Not sure how this is even a question tbh

Do you think having low appeal lowers SMV in men?

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Do you think having low appeal lowers SMV in men?

Of course it does

Appeal is a critical part of SMV

 

[Xangsane]

I'll have to try Williams in London sometime. Not gonna pay for the Tinder passport though. Gotta find another way.

Agreed about the men in that mog battle. Most of those guys seem fairly primal though and would probably pump and dump a lot of Beckies in the meantime though.

Also agreed about the appeal penalty. On a personal note, this is probably the biggest factor killing my chances on dating apps.

Good luck!

I agree with that too; they seem the types to rack up ridiculously high body counts, pumping and dumping lots of Beckies. I also think they will pump and dump any alt foid, even if she is a Stacy, mostly because I don't think they would want to be seen dead with alt foids.

Which is exactly why alt foids flock to less primal dudes like Gonzalocel, if they can't find attractive enough alt lads (and these lads tend to be less attractive than the average NT lad).

I tried an experiment on @VenomGT3 who is of a similar looks level like Gonzalocel but far higher appeal - he managed to match with some NT Stacylites later on during the experiment. Gonzalo didn't get a single Stacylite at all in London (in Atlanta he managed to get one black Stacylite).

 

[Xangsane]

Of course it does

Appeal is a critical part of SMV

And therefore, access to the types of foids you can get?

If Gonzalocel wanted to date his looksmatch, what would you suggest he does? @Br0sk1

 

[Xangsane]

If you're low appeal, you’re low smv. They go hand in hand

Of these two, who do you think gets access to higher-level foids?
Assume both are college-educated.

 

[Br0sk1]

And therefore, access to the types of foids you can get?

If Gonzalocel wanted to date his looksmatch, what would you suggest he does? @Br0sk1

Gonzalo would either have to looksmax in a way that boosted his appeal or try IRL game (either cold or warm approach).

 

[Xangsane]

Gonzalo would either have to looksmax in a way that boosted his appeal or try IRL game (either cold or warm approach).

I'd say building up muscle and changing fashion would be a good idea in his case (seems to have the fashion sense of a typical Comp Sci major)

 

[Xangsane]

1st guy is more robust and looks more NT tbh

What about the second guy?
How do you rate their appeal levels?