Roiding can cause skin issues which are almost impossible to manage, as well as bloating, discolouration, high oestrogen, and its also time consuming af not to mention expensive, unnecessary and easy to fuck up.
Ohp is based this cannot be argued
imagine training the same as a guy whose brow looks like this:
Fr. People don’t realise that most guys with good physiques have better genetics than them, and to come close they need to optimise everything.imagine training the same as a guy whose brow looks like this:
and thinking you're going to have the same results
Dude on the left will always get brutally, brutally mogged by dude on the right, but dude on the left would look 100x worse if he never lifted than if he did.
Depends. Ususlly these guys you can’t tell they lift wearing a shirt , it’s good androgen receptor that do that
Sometimes, if they have lacking arms & forearms, but when you max those muscles out along with chest, upper back, and shoulders, you can look pretty jacked in a shirt even when framecelled.
its not in correlation imo, but i have very similar browridge nglimagine training the same as a guy whose brow looks like this:
and thinking you're going to have the same results
Tag me when your done with it. I can help if you want i kind of consider the Mike mentzer route the most efficent. interested to hear what you have to say
I think you can bring some value to the forum unironically
Will do. I like mentzer a lot, also big advocate for renaissance periodisation training methods.
Thanks bro thats the plan
the fact that you used the word "misinformation" proves to me that your a shabbos goyim who got the vax.
Couldnt be further from the truth, not vaxxed and i wont eat the bugs.
still got a useless degree in kike science and are trying to peddle it off on a bunch of losers on a forum
Show the full picture, right is a hipcel jfl.
If you’re talking about invisible lat syndrome, where bodybuilders hold their arms way out from their body, yeah in cases where this is caused by actual muscle mass it’s from lats. But the mass you need to actually cause this to any degree is extremely hard to achieve in any reasonable timeframe naturally. For natural looking shoulder width I’d focus on side and rear delts and lats. Traps are not really important for width but you’re right in saying lack of trap development doesn’t look right. I wouldnt focus on traps directly unless they’re lacking, as long as your training neck.
Typically, most people have a lot of androgen receptors in one area and less in another. This is why people have strong points and weak points. For me, mine are concentrated in the back, shoulders and legs whereas arms struggle a lot. A lot the time, the people that get very wide looking physiques already had a good clavicle and scapula due to excessive receptors there. The only way to change this is to directly target a lagging area and/or use roids to stimulate and create more receptors.
Other topic:
You’re right, we want our elbow to be close to our side in all pulling for lat development. Neutral grip pullups or chinups are definitely the best variations and when you perform them like that they are a very good lat exercise.
