Wtf is up with my side profile looks actually subhuman. Is this lefort territory

This is not a proper photo
You're not recessed man
You look fine
I'm telling you, I'm experienced with examing recession

You aren't downgrown and you just have paransal hollowing/ deep canine fossae
That's actually a halo in some cases (look at Tyson Ballou)

Your projection of Maxilla lines up beyond that with browbone. Forward growth occurs if it goes beyond. You got good forward growth.

Mouth Breathing did not affect you. See bro, mouth breathing isn't directly bad. A sufficient amount of mouth breathing only affects somebody if they needed Orthodontics growing up, which in turn would fuck them even harder
I.e. if their Teeth got fucked

Teeth are the most important feature of the skull. Bad teeth = Over

But a special sort of Orthodontics too. If they had Braces + Elastics to solve a Class 2 Malocclusion, or if they had Extractions done. Those are the 2 cases

Your development was not inhibited, and you are far from recessed

Exactly this:
Side profile is cope,front profile is like 90 percent of your looks,3/4 even matters soo much more then side,your nose and eyes look normie tier from the side at least or just above average maybe that’s your problem but your face isn’t recessed dw
When validation whores come here fully knowing their profile looks fine, and fish for compliments, I respond accordingly.
Lf1 is neither dangerous nor particularly invasive. No scarring involved, and the techniques have gotten insanely good the past few decades

Lf2 on the other hand...
There easily are
Ok I guess the other pics were actually closer to my 3/4th profile so this is more accurate, yup much more recession actually
 

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His OV is not slightly positive lol

Maybe technically the bone is slightly more forward than the eyes depending on his exact frankfurt plane (altho i highly doubt it), but that would be negated by his lack of infraorbital fat pads anyway. His eye protrusion is giga obvious visually.

Not saying its a death tier failo or anything, but its def not something neutral
Everything below the eyeball is atleast in front of the eyeball in that pic. How is his eye protruding
 
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Ok I guess the other pics were actually closer to my 3/4th profile so this is more accurate, yup much more recession actually
Oh nvm yeah delon was right u have a slight negative orbital vector there. Your eyebrows look high set here too
 
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Ok I guess the other pics were actually closer to my 3/4th profile so this is more accurate, yup much more recession actually
You need to leanmaxx ma nigga
 
Ok I guess the other pics were actually closer to my 3/4th profile so this is more accurate, yup much more recession actually
Bro your taking photos in really bad lighting and angles that is making you look way worse then you actually do,take pictures next time in natural lightings and evaluate yourself,I’m telling you that it looks fine
 
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His OV is not slightly positive lol

Maybe technically the bone is slightly more forward than the eyes depending on his exact frankfurt plane (altho i highly doubt it), but that would be negated by his lack of infraorbital fat pads anyway. His eye protrusion is giga obvious visually.

Not saying its a death tier failo or anything, but its def not something neutral
There easily are
My eyes aren’t protruding I’m just raising my eyebrows in the pics
IMG 3677
 
You need to leanmaxx ma nigga
How is his eye bulging tho, it looks reasonably medium set relative to his browridge. I don't think he needs orbital decompression, probably just infras and upper eyelid fat graft imo.
 
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Ok I guess the other pics were actually closer to my 3/4th profile so this is more accurate, yup much more recession actually
Average projection
Not recessed

But like I said you got Deep Canine Fossae
 
How is his eye bulging tho, it looks reasonably medium set relative to his browridge. I don't think he needs orbital decompression, probably just infras and upper eyelid fat graft imo.
It fluctuates from pic to pic, but it's pretty obvious that his eye is not completely flush with the socket

Then again, most people have room for improvement in that area, it doesn't mean that he desperately needs OD, but certainly looks like he could benefit from it
 
It fluctuates from pic to pic, but it's pretty obvious that his eye is not completely flush with the socket

Then again, most people have room for improvement in that area, it doesn't mean that he desperately needs OD, but certainly looks like he could benefit from it
my eyes just look weird in the pic look at the video I sent they’re not buldgung 😭
 
My eyes aren’t protruding I’m just raising my eyebrows in the pics View attachment 3146688
Damn you really were lowk retarded to take so many side pics while raising brows lol

The point of taking pics to rate is to have as neutral an expression as possible, unless you're trying to assess smile or something like that

In that pic you look like you're lowering brows by squinting a bit. Show one with a completely neutral eye expression and ideally a neutral head tilt and i'll reconsider based on it
 
u sure that’s not recessed?
Yes man
I explained earlier why

It's recession is within average relatively speaking

Mouth Breathing only affects if you suffered to a level where you required Orthodontics to fix your Teeth. Which in turn will fuck over your facial features even more
 
Damn you really were lowk retarded to take so many side pics while raising brows lol

The point of taking pics to rate is to have as neutral an expression as possible, unless you're trying to assess smile or something like that

In that pic you look like you're lowering brows by squinting a bit. Show one with a completely neutral eye expression and ideally a neutral head tilt and i'll reconsider based on it
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can these eyes benefit from it
 
My eye area for reference
Ok here you don't really look like an OD candidate, hooding makes your eyes appear pretty deep set. But don't send pics with raised brows and expect mfers to guess when you have no visible muscle engagement
 
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My eye area for reference
Whats your current bodyfat percentage? Your submental fat distribution is kinda lackluster tbh, it looks like what I would expect of a skinnyfat guy
 
Whats your current bodyfat percentage? Your submental fat distribution is kinda lackluster tbh, it looks like what I would expect of a skinnyfat guy
Around 18-20
 
I mean this pic hes sent here is frauded but there is 0 indication of recession here
So you do agree I’m recessed after the full side pics 😭
 
So you do agree I’m recessed after the full side pics 😭
Send it again, it was horizontal or something. Why do you keep sending them horizontally.
 
Ok here you don't really look like an OD candidate, hooding makes your eyes appear pretty deep set. But don't send pics with raised brows and expect mfers to guess when you have no visible muscle engagement
Yea I was ab to say OD is crazy lmao I thought my Supras and slight deep setness were some of my decent features
 
Not even lefort 4 is saving you bro, it might be over
 
And nobody with a good front has a terrible side profile but a lot of people with fraud side profiles have terrible fronts,we all know which one matter more irl
i do
 
Then you don’t have a good front or your side isn’t actually bad,if your eyes and nose look good from the front they will from the side too,doesn’t go other way around
 
Then you don’t have a good front or your side isn’t actually bad,if your eyes and nose look good from the front they will from the side too,doesn’t go other way around
my front Is High mtn, my side Is LTN
my chin/jaw recession Is the problem
 
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Yeah ur recessed ur frauding and ur mandible is recessed and maxilla has average projection. You're frauding too with angles
There is 0 frauding in that, so you think my mandible is more recessed than my upper maxilla?
 
Yeah ur recessed ur frauding and ur mandible is recessed and maxilla has average projection. You're frauding too with angles
I’d rather my mandible be more recessed because Bimax will be easier
 
I don’t have rly have an over bite look
Oh that's weird then. In your pics it looks like your upper lip juts heavily ahead of the bottom one
 

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Oh that's weird then. In your pics it looks like your upper lip juts heavily ahead of the bottom one
yea it’s from bad tongue posture
 

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