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If you're American, this is the new service rifle your most loyal patriots will be taking to battle.
SIG Sauer XM5

It costs approximately $5,000 and $9,000 per unit
It's optic ALONE costs $10,000 - nevermind the bipod, laser, IR laser, flashlight and sling attachments.
And every round costs $15 as it's highly specialized and not generic ammo. [5.8 by 51]



Comparing this to the US' military's previous rifle, the M27
MK416
The m27 costs approximately $1,300 - $3,000 per unit
It's optic costs approximately $2,350 - $3,150 per unit
And every round costs under $0.50 as it uses the military standard caliber of 5.56 by 45 that been mass produced for ages

Infact, the m27 is basically a slightly modified [to US military specification] version of the HK416

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picture of a civillian HK416

The HK416 is one of the most reliable, accurate [for an assault rifle] well made and well received rifles of the AR platform. Infact, in all my research, I have never heard a bad story of this weapon.
It is so good that basically every western military has made it it's official military rifle, with the UK set to make it theirs soon.
It is so well recieved that even Germany, which only uses rifles specially produced for the German army, decided to adopt a modified [under German military specification] version of this rifle, instead of wanting one made from scratch.

It is an extremely good rifle that you would be blessed to find during an apocalypse.

The FN FAL used to be called The Right Arm of The Free World because it was adopted by so many western countries during The Cold War.
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Well, the HK416 has taken that title away from it.

All whilst being cheap, reliable, and loved.



It's one of the most overglazed guns in the history of the world, I need to repeat that I have legitimately NEVER heard a story from a service member who's used it of it jamming or being unreliable.
So, what does the US military get for a gun that costs 3x more per unit, 3.5x more per optic, and 30 times more per round?

A rifle that's

LESS accurate
LESS reliable with MORE jamming
MORE expensive
MORE heavy [weight of equipment is extremely important in the Military]
MORE recoil
HARDER to clean and service
With CATASTROPHIC issues that I will get into.



Less accurate:

2 moa = bullet spreads 2 inches every 100 yards it travels
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the m27/hk416's bullets spreads approx. 2x less than the m7!
FYI, 2 moa is what you would expect from a $400 dollar civillian AR-15, not a $5,000 military battle rifle.

Less reliable/More Jamming


Heavier:
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More recoil:
The m27's bullet, the 5.56 by 45: 3.74 LB-FT [5.07 Newtons]
The xm7's bullet, the 6.8 by 51: 18-20 LB-FT [24.4 - 27.1 Newtons]
jfl, literally 5x more force behind each bullet.
mirin giving soldiers arthritis


Catastrophic failures:




It also holds 20 bullets instead of 30 like the m27
Which is CANCER.
It was one of the biggest complaints [apart from jamming] from soldiers in the vietnam war. I don't know why they decided to reintroduce 20 round mags.
Every 250,000 rounds = 1 insurgent killed on average [including rounds used in training, which is Approx 30,000 per soldier]
No soldier has ever said "Wow, I wish I had a heavier rifle that held less bullets!" before
This also means money spent on rounds to kill 1 insurgent went from $125,000 to $3,750,000


W wasting tax dollars for the military industrial complex

Imagine you're a US soldier getting ambushed 5-1 against the taliban ambush, you're expected to kill 5 taliban fighters with only 4 rounds for each fighter, with a rifle that is likely to jam, that punches you in the shoulder everytime you shoot, loud enough to immediately alert the enemy to your position.
You manage to kill 4, you can smell victory, you can already imagine the purple hearts medal ceremony
You go to reload
You pushed the magazine in too hard
It jams
Then you get killed by a 37 year old rug seller in sandals with a AK that's been shot with so much corrosive ammo it's practically smooth bore.

Even in it's niche - managing to shoot through very good armoured plating at 800-1,000 metres, it's 10,000 DOLLAR FUCKING OPTIC only magnifies 8x
Good luck shooting what's essentially a speck on your scope with a 2moa rifle nigga.


Thank you pete hegseth for this garbage rifle
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I am not even kidding when I say I would rather take a modernized AK to war than this
The modernized AK would probably cost under 2,000 with all it's attachments and accessories and 120 rounds of ammunition too.

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They even look cooler too.
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The ONLY thing it does better is piercing through armoured plates, and that is not much of a tradeoff.
They issued this rifle because they have been paying very close attention to the Ukraine Russia war and realized at 400+ metres, 5.56x45 ammo firing out of US military weapons cannot pierce through enemy armour
But why did they not pay attention to the fact that in modernized war, where they are drones everywhere, a heavier rifle is GARBAGE!!! And that a modern military, which you'd expect would be the thing they're worried about if they're worried about modern military armour, would be using mortars, artillery, air strikes and sniper teams against you if you're 800-1,000 metres away..


Keep in mind, the US military will use this as their MAIN rifle against Iran if a ground invasion happens.

Tagging people who may care about war/guns:
@Jason Voorhees @aids @yussimania @Wuzzdio @User28823
 
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Technically it's called the M7 now not the xm7, but you can use them interchangeably
 
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Dnr + America is run by Jews
 
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A lot of you nighas probably don't know this but all these decisions aren't made by the military it is bureaucratic, lobbying from defense contractors, and the classic military industrial complex dynamics.massive budgets and contracts take priority

Once a certain program starts. billions in R&D have already been sunk before even the first prototype and when a fat contract lands hundreds of millions of dollars and jobs get created with a lot of string attached. Once done is done almost impossible to kill. Lobbying keeps it alive, if you stop it in between the whole ecosystem of contractors, door generals, gets stopped and evrything gets stuck in endless procurement cycles.
 
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A lot of you nighas probably don't know this but all these decisions aren't made by the military it is bureaucratic, lobbying from defense contractors, and the classic military industrial complex dynamics, massive budgets and contracts take priority
Yes, it's obvious sig paid someone off
 
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What a terrible gun if it's inaccurate but the point of it being specialised is to penetrate armour from further away :forcedsmile:

How the fuck are you meant to use this?
 
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What a terrible gun if it's inaccurate but the point of it being specialised is to penetrate armour from further away :forcedsmile:

How the fuck are you meant to use this?
If they fixed the jamming problems + innacuracy it would be an absolutely great rifle to give to designated riflemen
Most of the team given M27s to deal with 20-400 yards, maybe 20-600, and the designated riflemen using it to kill at 400+ yards
The bullet fires extremely flat with the innaccuracy being left-right innacuracy instead of downwards innacuracy like you'd expect

But, they're planning on giving it to literally every single servicemen except maybe those supposed to clear houses [long gun + close quarters = bad]
 
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I don't expect much people to read, this is just a passion post, dnr all you want

If you're American, this is the new service rifle your most loyal patriots will be taking to battle.
View attachment 4782132
It costs approximately $5,000 and $9,000 per unit
It's optic ALONE costs $10,000 - nevermind the bipod, laser, IR laser, flashlight and sling attachments.
And every round costs $15 as it's highly specialized and not generic ammo. [5.8 by 51]

View attachment 4782125

Comparing this to the US' military's previous rifle, the M27
View attachment 4782148
The m27 costs approximately $1,300 - $3,000 per unit
It's optic costs approximately $2,350 - $3,150 per unit
And every round costs under $0.50 as it uses the military standard caliber of 5.56 by 45 that been mass produced for ages

Infact, the m27 is basically a slightly modified [to US military specification] version of the HK416

View attachment 4782168
picture of a civillian HK416

The HK416 is one of the most reliable, accurate [for an assault rifle] well made and well received rifles of the AR platform. Infact, in all my research, I have never heard a bad story of this weapon.
It is so good that basically every western military has made it it's official military rifle, with the UK set to make it theirs soon.
It is so well recieved that even Germany, which only uses rifles specially produced for the German army, decided to adopt a modified [under German military specification] version of this rifle, instead of wanting one made from scratch.

It is an extremely good rifle that you would be blessed to find during an apocalypse.

The FN FAL used to be called The Right Arm of The Free World because it was adopted by so many western countries during The Cold War.
View attachment 4782173

Well, the HK416 has taken that title away from it.

All whilst being cheap, reliable, and loved.

View attachment 4782157

It's one of the most overglazed guns in the history of the world, I need to repeat that I have legitimately NEVER heard a story from a service member who's used it of it jamming or being unreliable.
So, what does the US military get for a gun that costs 3x more per unit, 3.5x more per optic, and 30 times more per round?

A rifle that's

LESS accurate
LESS reliable with MORE jamming
MORE expensive
MORE heavy [weight of equipment is extremely important in the Military]
MORE recoil
HARDER to clean and service
With CATASTROPHIC issues that I will get into.



Less accurate:
View attachment 4782272
2 moa = bullet spreads 2 inches every 100 yards it travels
View attachment 4782227
the m27/hk416's bullets spreads approx. 2x less than the m7!
FYI, 2 moa is what you would expect from a $400 dollar civillian AR-15, not a $5,000 military battle rifle.

Less reliable/More Jamming
View attachment 4782237

Heavier:
View attachment 4782263View attachment 4782265

More recoil:
The m27's bullet, the 5.56 by 45: 3.74 LB-FT [5.07 Newtons]
The xm7's bullet, the 6.8 by 51: 18-20 LB-FT [24.4 - 27.1 Newtons]
jfl, literally 5x more force behind each bullet.
mirin giving soldiers arthritis


Catastrophic failures:




It also holds 20 bullets instead of 30 like the m27
Which is CANCER.
It was one of the biggest complaints [apart from jamming] from soldiers in the vietnam war. I don't know why they decided to reintroduce 20 round mags.
Every 250,000 rounds = 1 insurgent killed on average [including rounds used in training, which is Approx 30,000 per soldier]
No soldier has ever said "Wow, I wish I had a heavier rifle that held less bullets!" before
This also means money spent on rounds to kill 1 insurgent went from $125,000 to $3,750,000


W wasting tax dollars for the military industrial complex

Imagine you're a US soldier getting ambushed 5-1 against the taliban ambush, you're expected to kill 5 taliban fighters with only 4 rounds for each fighter, with a rifle that is likely to jam, that punches you in the shoulder everytime you shoot, loud enough to immediately alert the enemy to your position.
You manage to kill 4, you can smell victory, you can already imagine the purple hearts medal ceremony
You go to reload
You pushed the magazine in too hard
It jams
Then you get killed by a 37 year old rug seller in sandals with a AK that's been shot with so much corrosive ammo it's practically smooth bore.

Even in it's niche - managing to shoot through very good armoured plating at 800-1,000 metres, it's 10,000 DOLLAR FUCKING OPTIC only magnifies 8x
Good luck shooting what's essentially a speck on your scope with a 2moa rifle nigga.


Thank you pete hegseth for this garbage rifle
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I am not even kidding when I say I would rather take a modernized AK to war than this
The modernized AK would probably cost under 2,000 with all it's attachments and accessories and 120 rounds of ammunition too.

View attachment 4781962
They even look cooler too.
View attachment 4782350
The ONLY thing it does better is piercing through armoured plates, and that is not much of a tradeoff.
They issued this rifle because they have been paying very close attention to the Ukraine Russia war and realized at 400+ metres, 5.56x45 ammo firing out of US military weapons cannot pierce through enemy armour
But why did they not pay attention to the fact that in modernized war, where they are drones everywhere, a heavier rifle is GARBAGE!!! And that a modern military, which you'd expect would be the thing they're worried about if they're worried about modern military armour, would be using mortars, artillery, air strikes and sniper teams against you if you're 800-1,000 metres away..


Keep in mind, the US military will use this as their MAIN rifle against Iran if a ground invasion happens.



Tagging people who may care about war/guns:
@Jason Voorhees @aids @yussimania @Wuzzdio @User28823

They DO need a powerful rifle , a battle rifle for invading iran because of the brutal mountain warfare thatbwoudk happen and all the IRGC use G3 battle rifles in 7.62x51. However the the XM7 is shit for so many reasons its like the worst battle rifle I could design if I had to, 6.8x51 is 80000 psi your gonna have to change your barrel almost every single day with that with that shit. Its barrel length is 13 inches they're not being serious with that its obviously going to be dog shit for muzzle flash and you cant take the suppressor off. But its still super loud because an 80000 psi explosion is happening every time you shoot it , the rifle isn't heavy tho , and it doesn't recoil hard , I they should have just made a modernized light 308 rifle
 
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They DO need a powerful rifle , a battle rifle for invading iran because of the brutal mountain warfare thatbwoudk happen and all the IRGC use G3 battle rifles in 7.62x51.
Yes, after posting these I have done research on the .277 including actual studies on it and ballistics tests
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I saw one test where they shot it at a ballistic dummie's head, and you can see ther esults for yourself

another where they strapped modern plates on a ballistic dummy, shot it from 300 yards away and it fractured multiple rips and caused it internal bleeding
I do wonder why though the Russians decided to adopt a 6.02 calliber for breaking through armour, and the Americans picked a 6.8

After my research, I am much less critical of the round [my only gripes with it being weight, manufacturing cost, and forcing a new standard] but my critics of the actual rifle itself remains
6.8x51 is 80000 psi your gonna have to change your barrel almost every single day with that with that shit. Its barrel length is 13 inches they're not being serious with that its obviously going to be dog shit for muzzle flash and you cant take the suppressor off.
I am pretttty sure that barrel length is not even enough to burn all the powder of the 6.8 lol
and the stock is skelatonized for weight, probably because they didn't want to hit the 10lb threshhold, which results in horrible force management from the stock for recoil
I they should have just made a modernized light 308 rifle
No, they should of made a .338 one to defeat modern body armour from 500 yards, and then given that rifle to designated riflemen, not every soldier
 
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I don't expect much people to read, this is just a passion post, dnr all you want

If you're American, this is the new service rifle your most loyal patriots will be taking to battle.
View attachment 4782132
It costs approximately $5,000 and $9,000 per unit
It's optic ALONE costs $10,000 - nevermind the bipod, laser, IR laser, flashlight and sling attachments.
And every round costs $15 as it's highly specialized and not generic ammo. [5.8 by 51]

View attachment 4782125

Comparing this to the US' military's previous rifle, the M27
View attachment 4782148
The m27 costs approximately $1,300 - $3,000 per unit
It's optic costs approximately $2,350 - $3,150 per unit
And every round costs under $0.50 as it uses the military standard caliber of 5.56 by 45 that been mass produced for ages

Infact, the m27 is basically a slightly modified [to US military specification] version of the HK416

View attachment 4782168
picture of a civillian HK416

The HK416 is one of the most reliable, accurate [for an assault rifle] well made and well received rifles of the AR platform. Infact, in all my research, I have never heard a bad story of this weapon.
It is so good that basically every western military has made it it's official military rifle, with the UK set to make it theirs soon.
It is so well recieved that even Germany, which only uses rifles specially produced for the German army, decided to adopt a modified [under German military specification] version of this rifle, instead of wanting one made from scratch.

It is an extremely good rifle that you would be blessed to find during an apocalypse.

The FN FAL used to be called The Right Arm of The Free World because it was adopted by so many western countries during The Cold War.
View attachment 4782173

Well, the HK416 has taken that title away from it.

All whilst being cheap, reliable, and loved.

View attachment 4782157

It's one of the most overglazed guns in the history of the world, I need to repeat that I have legitimately NEVER heard a story from a service member who's used it of it jamming or being unreliable.
So, what does the US military get for a gun that costs 3x more per unit, 3.5x more per optic, and 30 times more per round?

A rifle that's

LESS accurate
LESS reliable with MORE jamming
MORE expensive
MORE heavy [weight of equipment is extremely important in the Military]
MORE recoil
HARDER to clean and service
With CATASTROPHIC issues that I will get into.



Less accurate:
View attachment 4782272
2 moa = bullet spreads 2 inches every 100 yards it travels
View attachment 4782227
the m27/hk416's bullets spreads approx. 2x less than the m7!
FYI, 2 moa is what you would expect from a $400 dollar civillian AR-15, not a $5,000 military battle rifle.

Less reliable/More Jamming
View attachment 4782237

Heavier:
View attachment 4782263View attachment 4782265

More recoil:
The m27's bullet, the 5.56 by 45: 3.74 LB-FT [5.07 Newtons]
The xm7's bullet, the 6.8 by 51: 18-20 LB-FT [24.4 - 27.1 Newtons]
jfl, literally 5x more force behind each bullet.
mirin giving soldiers arthritis


Catastrophic failures:




It also holds 20 bullets instead of 30 like the m27
Which is CANCER.
It was one of the biggest complaints [apart from jamming] from soldiers in the vietnam war. I don't know why they decided to reintroduce 20 round mags.
Every 250,000 rounds = 1 insurgent killed on average [including rounds used in training, which is Approx 30,000 per soldier]
No soldier has ever said "Wow, I wish I had a heavier rifle that held less bullets!" before
This also means money spent on rounds to kill 1 insurgent went from $125,000 to $3,750,000


W wasting tax dollars for the military industrial complex

Imagine you're a US soldier getting ambushed 5-1 against the taliban ambush, you're expected to kill 5 taliban fighters with only 4 rounds for each fighter, with a rifle that is likely to jam, that punches you in the shoulder everytime you shoot, loud enough to immediately alert the enemy to your position.
You manage to kill 4, you can smell victory, you can already imagine the purple hearts medal ceremony
You go to reload
You pushed the magazine in too hard
It jams
Then you get killed by a 37 year old rug seller in sandals with a AK that's been shot with so much corrosive ammo it's practically smooth bore.

Even in it's niche - managing to shoot through very good armoured plating at 800-1,000 metres, it's 10,000 DOLLAR FUCKING OPTIC only magnifies 8x
Good luck shooting what's essentially a speck on your scope with a 2moa rifle nigga.


Thank you pete hegseth for this garbage rifle
View attachment 4782342
I am not even kidding when I say I would rather take a modernized AK to war than this
The modernized AK would probably cost under 2,000 with all it's attachments and accessories and 120 rounds of ammunition too.

View attachment 4781962
They even look cooler too.
View attachment 4782350
The ONLY thing it does better is piercing through armoured plates, and that is not much of a tradeoff.
They issued this rifle because they have been paying very close attention to the Ukraine Russia war and realized at 400+ metres, 5.56x45 ammo firing out of US military weapons cannot pierce through enemy armour
But why did they not pay attention to the fact that in modernized war, where they are drones everywhere, a heavier rifle is GARBAGE!!! And that a modern military, which you'd expect would be the thing they're worried about if they're worried about modern military armour, would be using mortars, artillery, air strikes and sniper teams against you if you're 800-1,000 metres away..


Keep in mind, the US military will use this as their MAIN rifle against Iran if a ground invasion happens.



Tagging people who may care about war/guns:
@Jason Voorhees @aids @yussimania @Wuzzdio @User28823

lobbying as usual
 
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I actually hate AR15 pattern rifles 5.56 is a dogshit round compared to Russian intermediate rounds
No, they should of made a .338 one to defeat modern body armour from 500 yards, and then given that rifle to designated riflemen, not every soldier
They made a 338 lmg
 
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They made a 338 lmg
It's only used by the IDF and it isn't used to defeat personnel body armour from 300-500 metres, it's more for defense/mounting it to vehicles
I actually hate AR15 pattern rifles 5.56 is a dogshit round compared to Russian intermediate rounds
the west will never stop using the AR platform lol
I am pretty sure single shot recoil on long stroke gast piston systems [AK] is more than short stroke
Whilst sustained automatic fire is less on AK systems
and long stroke has .25 MOAcy more than than short strokes
Probably negligable in a real war though
 
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I don't expect much people to read, this is just a passion post, dnr all you want

If you're American, this is the new service rifle your most loyal patriots will be taking to battle.
View attachment 4782132
It costs approximately $5,000 and $9,000 per unit
It's optic ALONE costs $10,000 - nevermind the bipod, laser, IR laser, flashlight and sling attachments.
And every round costs $15 as it's highly specialized and not generic ammo. [5.8 by 51]

View attachment 4782125

Comparing this to the US' military's previous rifle, the M27
View attachment 4782148
The m27 costs approximately $1,300 - $3,000 per unit
It's optic costs approximately $2,350 - $3,150 per unit
And every round costs under $0.50 as it uses the military standard caliber of 5.56 by 45 that been mass produced for ages

Infact, the m27 is basically a slightly modified [to US military specification] version of the HK416

View attachment 4782168
picture of a civillian HK416

The HK416 is one of the most reliable, accurate [for an assault rifle] well made and well received rifles of the AR platform. Infact, in all my research, I have never heard a bad story of this weapon.
It is so good that basically every western military has made it it's official military rifle, with the UK set to make it theirs soon.
It is so well recieved that even Germany, which only uses rifles specially produced for the German army, decided to adopt a modified [under German military specification] version of this rifle, instead of wanting one made from scratch.

It is an extremely good rifle that you would be blessed to find during an apocalypse.

The FN FAL used to be called The Right Arm of The Free World because it was adopted by so many western countries during The Cold War.
View attachment 4782173

Well, the HK416 has taken that title away from it.

All whilst being cheap, reliable, and loved.

View attachment 4782157

It's one of the most overglazed guns in the history of the world, I need to repeat that I have legitimately NEVER heard a story from a service member who's used it of it jamming or being unreliable.
So, what does the US military get for a gun that costs 3x more per unit, 3.5x more per optic, and 30 times more per round?

A rifle that's

LESS accurate
LESS reliable with MORE jamming
MORE expensive
MORE heavy [weight of equipment is extremely important in the Military]
MORE recoil
HARDER to clean and service
With CATASTROPHIC issues that I will get into.



Less accurate:
View attachment 4782272
2 moa = bullet spreads 2 inches every 100 yards it travels
View attachment 4782227
the m27/hk416's bullets spreads approx. 2x less than the m7!
FYI, 2 moa is what you would expect from a $400 dollar civillian AR-15, not a $5,000 military battle rifle.

Less reliable/More Jamming
View attachment 4782237

Heavier:
View attachment 4782263View attachment 4782265

More recoil:
The m27's bullet, the 5.56 by 45: 3.74 LB-FT [5.07 Newtons]
The xm7's bullet, the 6.8 by 51: 18-20 LB-FT [24.4 - 27.1 Newtons]
jfl, literally 5x more force behind each bullet.
mirin giving soldiers arthritis


Catastrophic failures:




It also holds 20 bullets instead of 30 like the m27
Which is CANCER.
It was one of the biggest complaints [apart from jamming] from soldiers in the vietnam war. I don't know why they decided to reintroduce 20 round mags.
Every 250,000 rounds = 1 insurgent killed on average [including rounds used in training, which is Approx 30,000 per soldier]
No soldier has ever said "Wow, I wish I had a heavier rifle that held less bullets!" before
This also means money spent on rounds to kill 1 insurgent went from $125,000 to $3,750,000


W wasting tax dollars for the military industrial complex

Imagine you're a US soldier getting ambushed 5-1 against the taliban ambush, you're expected to kill 5 taliban fighters with only 4 rounds for each fighter, with a rifle that is likely to jam, that punches you in the shoulder everytime you shoot, loud enough to immediately alert the enemy to your position.
You manage to kill 4, you can smell victory, you can already imagine the purple hearts medal ceremony
You go to reload
You pushed the magazine in too hard
It jams
Then you get killed by a 37 year old rug seller in sandals with a AK that's been shot with so much corrosive ammo it's practically smooth bore.

Even in it's niche - managing to shoot through very good armoured plating at 800-1,000 metres, it's 10,000 DOLLAR FUCKING OPTIC only magnifies 8x
Good luck shooting what's essentially a speck on your scope with a 2moa rifle nigga.


Thank you pete hegseth for this garbage rifle
View attachment 4782342
I am not even kidding when I say I would rather take a modernized AK to war than this
The modernized AK would probably cost under 2,000 with all it's attachments and accessories and 120 rounds of ammunition too.

View attachment 4781962
They even look cooler too.
View attachment 4782350
The ONLY thing it does better is piercing through armoured plates, and that is not much of a tradeoff.
They issued this rifle because they have been paying very close attention to the Ukraine Russia war and realized at 400+ metres, 5.56x45 ammo firing out of US military weapons cannot pierce through enemy armour
But why did they not pay attention to the fact that in modernized war, where they are drones everywhere, a heavier rifle is GARBAGE!!! And that a modern military, which you'd expect would be the thing they're worried about if they're worried about modern military armour, would be using mortars, artillery, air strikes and sniper teams against you if you're 800-1,000 metres away..


Keep in mind, the US military will use this as their MAIN rifle against Iran if a ground invasion happens.



Tagging people who may care about war/guns:
@Jason Voorhees @aids @yussimania @Wuzzdio @User28823

I heard about the sig spear being the new rifle a few years back. I always thought it was a retarded move considering the CEO of Sig is doing what he did to kimber by cutting on production and discontinuing good firearms. If you find out his ethnicity, you’ll see he’s Jewish.

We could’ve had some cool shit like the xm29 if only we made it lightweight

Edit: I just remember sig created the p320 that negligently misfires from dropping it lol and they’re responsible for arming every us soldier out there with a gun that performs worse than the gun they replaced.
 

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Read it all

Pretty interesting shit ngl
 
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Did read, America dont gaf abt the soldiers some dudes son probably started a weapons manufacturer and trump wants to launder some money and make him rich jfl thats how these decisions are made
 
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No wonder they are losing against iran
 
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Imagine getting cucked by a iranian guy because you put the mag in to far :lul:
 
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Interesting thread. Why do you think they switched though if it's inferior in pretty much every way?
 
It's only used by the IDF and it isn't used to defeat personnel body armour from 300-500 metres, it's more for defense/mounting it to vehicles

the west will never stop using the AR platform lol
I am pretty sure single shot recoil on long stroke gast piston systems [AK] is more than short stroke
Whilst sustained automatic fire is less on AK systems
and long stroke has .25 MOAcy more than than short strokes
Probably negligable in a real war though
BTW the xm7 recoil is really laughable it's tiny because of the buffer tube and the fact that the bullet itself is dogshit a 113 grain projectile thats the same weight as 9mm projectiles, any wind and shit can blow it away. 308 itself was pretty weak and barely full power , they made it even weaker , this is like around 6.5 creedmoor weakness. Fucking dogshit man
 
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BTW the xm7 recoil is really laughable it's tiny because of the buffer tube and the fact that the bullet itself is dogshit a 113 grain projectile thats the same weight as 9mm projectiles, any wind and shit can blow it away. 308 itself was pretty weak and barely full power , they made it even weaker , this is like around 6.5 creedmoor weakness. Fucking dogshit man
Eh, it can still burst through plates
 
The XM7 only replaced the US Army’s M4A1’s. The US Marines still use the M27.

Still the XM7 is incredibly retarded and clearly was a money grab by government contractors lol.
 
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send a soldier home, kill him, what's the difference? if anything, it will cost the enemy more money in taxes to treat the soldier than to bury him
Are you retarded or what? A soldier with broken ribs can still fire a weapon
 
They have a Shahid ideology bro they WANT to die bro, they will keep firing until they physically cant because they're dead unless you make them unconscious they can still fire
 
Meanwhile shitskin muslim faggots wreak havoc with shitty AKs in Aghanistan etc lmao
 
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Anyway tho I really like that the battle rifle is coming back but this is worse than anything I could imagine, even among failures , it's just common sense you don't use an 80000 psi round. No other round thats NATO or otherwise uses that much pressure because of all the reasons you would think. Worse barrel life , greater wear. Greater chance of catastrophic failure, absolutely retarded. Making it 13 inches long is retarded too.
 
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