Yes i will belt pull

[avenox]

Yes i will be using the dohn johns method

 

[avenox]

B

 

[avenox]

Hoping to achieve rira maxilla after a couple of months doing it

 

[Deleted member 245103]

Yes i will be using the dohn johns method

keep me updated

 

[looksmaxxed]

fucks your teeth up and doesn't work. mirin time capsule though. i remember experimenting with this circa 2015

fme plus protraction devices if you're serious about expansion and forward movement without surgery

 

[avenox]

fucks your teeth up and doesn't work. mirin time capsule though. i remember experimenting with this circa 2015

fme plus protraction devices if you're serious about expansion and forward movement without surgery

Those devices wont work though it only works for like 10 year olds

 

[Hoax]

Those devices wont work though it only works for like 10 year olds

I am trying the pulling helmet and will be sleeping in it for the next few months (16 hours a day) so just keep an eye on my posts. I am going to document a 3 month difference and weather it works or not at 19.

This method is very interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

[looksmaxxed]

Those devices wont work though it only works for like 10 year olds

fme is bone borne and once the palantine sutures have been split protraction devices can move the maxilla forward with pterygoid process remodeling.

 

[looksmaxxed]

I am trying the pulling helmet and will be sleeping in it for the next few months (16 hours a day) so just keep an eye on my posts. I am going to document a 3 month difference and weather it works or not at 19.

This method is very interesting, thanks for sharing.

unless your palantine sutures have been split to encourage free movement along the rest of the fissures, very unlikely for protraction devices to do anything. especially if it's a helmet device. you need a device that's anchored to your body and doesn't retrude your chin or impinge on your forehead so you can have greater force application

 

[avenox]

fme is bone borne and once the palantine sutures have been split protraction devices can move the maxilla forward with pterygoid process remodeling.

Would you say sutures would most likely close by 15

I want to buy a regular non bone anchored expander but i dont think it will work and dentists in the ukw itn give out x rays for no reason

 

[looksmaxxed]

Would you say sutures would most likely close by 15

I want to buy a regular non bone anchored expander but i dont think it will work and dentists in the ukw itn give out x rays for no reason

you break the sutures with bone borne devices like fme or mse 2.0 with piezo or cortical pilot hole assistance. if you're young enough it can break with no surgical intervention at all

 

[avenox]

you break the sutures with bone borne devices like fme or mse 2.0 with piezo or cortical pilot hole assistance. if you're young enough it can break with no surgical intervention at all

Is 15 young enough

Also what protaction devices

 

[looksmaxxed]

depends on palatal thickness especially at the nasal spine

facegenics or fma

 

[Anothersub5]

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I MADE THE OG FACEPULLER DEVICE

https://looksmax.org/threads/og-gatekept-facepulling-thread.1362847/ Same shit I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the...

looksmax.org

 

[Mizi44]

fucks your teeth up and doesn't work. mirin time capsule though. i remember experimenting with this circa 2015

fme plus protraction devices if you're serious about expansion and forward movement without surgery

Do you remember a Estonian autistic guy?

 

[avenox]

depends on palatal thickness especially at the nasal spine

facegenics or fma

Are those the protaction devicez

 

[LTNUser]

Is 15 young enough

Also what protaction devices

You're 15? Weren't you 26 a month ago?

 

[avenox]

You're 15? Weren't you 26 a month ago?

no

 

[don187]

unless your palantine sutures have been split to encourage free movement along the rest of the fissures, very unlikely for protraction devices to do anything. especially if it's a helmet device. you need a device that's anchored to your body and doesn't retrude your chin or impinge on your forehead so you can have greater force application

Wyd now that Dr jaffari said they are redoing FMA completely because it failed

Any diy setups to protract?

 

[avenox]

Wyd now that Dr jaffari said they are redoing FMA completely because it failed

Any diy setups to protract?

I need to look into it