You cant change how NT you are

[Youㅤ]

You seem to not even have a basic understanding of the brain. Ur cortex aka what effects how low inhib u are is what effects ur higher order thinking (subconcious and concious thinking) ur subconcious thinking and reflexes are more important on ur natural personality than ur concious thoughts. Ur prefrontal cortex has mknimal neuroplasticity especially if ur only mechanism for changing it is “try to be confident” “try to think” or whatever the fuck ur doing and is infinitely more greately effected by responses to ur environment

all this theory yet if u chose to be determined to low inhib max u would see it working and realize all this theory is cope

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Napolean had power and people respecting him this is legit adding to my point

ANY TYPE OF GOOD REINFORCMENET LEADS TO A POSITIVE CHANGE IN PERSONALITY AND NEUROTYPICALITY

This is one of the worst examples you couldve used

Yes but he earned it you retard this isn't complicated at all,

you're ignoring the point on purpose you're good enough at debating that this is clearly pretend, you're faking it, I don't believe you're really this retarded.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Non NT and seen as a strange but not hated > normie who loves to socialize

Lately I don't mind, I get to cut out the gunk of small talk

 

[pandamonium]

Environment is changeable and it can go for everyone. The reason why you think it doesn’t is because it WONT go for everyone. It takes work to change your situation, but you don’t always have to. You can take the most incel sub 5 neurodivergent person and put him in an area of people who aren’t shallow and only care about looks and he’ll eventually become nt. Certain people just won’t gravitate towards him because his looks hold him back. It all depends on environment:

False and false.

Ur environment that ur in most of the time is 100% luck.

The family ur born into, the school you go to, whatever religion your in. Wherever you spend most of the time cannot be changed unless ur parents dont give a fuck what u do. If ur talking about minimal aspects like school groups, clubs, etc this will have much less of a effcet on your neurotypicality in the long run unless high levels of emotion are involved, but ur brain responds to negative stimuli more than positive stimuli. So even if ur in these groups but everywhere else you get treated like shit ur mental state will decline.
Where u spend most of your time cannot be changed until its already too late.

And no it cannot go for everyone. Like i said already ur brains responses to environment are completely different and not everyones dopamine receptors are the same or respond at the same level. One person who gets treated like shit their brain can respond to hormones at very low rates. This type of person is usually more neurotypical as negative reinforcement effects them lesss. However even then this is where environment plays a huge role. Even if someone responds to certain hormones like serotonin and dopamine less if thats all their exposed to then it will effect them eventually. And scientists know that even the way ur body responds to the dopamine in general can be different

You are just false in everything u say stop talking

 

[pandamonium]

Yes but he earned it you retard this isn't complicated at all,

you're ignoring the point on purpose you're good enough at debating that this is clearly pretend, you're faking it, I don't believe you're really this retarded.

Napolean was high iq and was a military strategist. People liked this leading him to have positive reinforcement and eventually became more charismatic and once he became a leader he reached a huge state of positive reinforcement. This isnt something u can learn.

 

[tomcaelum]

False and false.

Ur environment that ur in most of the time is 100% luck.

The family ur born into, the school you go to, whatever religion your in. Wherever you spend most of the time cannot be changed unless ur parents dont give a fuck what u do. If ur talking about minimal aspects like school groups, clubs, etc this will have much less of a effcet on your neurotypicality in the long run unless high levels of emotion are involved, but ur brain responds to negative stimuli more than positive stimuli. So even if ur in these groups but everywhere else you get treated like shit ur mental state will decline.
Where u spend most of your time cannot be changed until its already too late.

And no it cannot go for everyone. Like i said already ur brains responses to environment are completely different and not everyones dopamine receptors are the same or respond at the same level. One person who gets treated like shit their brain can respond to hormones at very low rates. This type of person is usually more neurotypical as negative reinforcement effects them lesss. However even then this is where environment plays a huge role. Even if someone responds to certain hormones like serotonin and dopamine less if thats all their exposed to then it will effect them eventually. And scientists know that even the way ur body responds to the dopamine in general can be different

You are just false in everything u say stop talking

Dnrd you’re trying so hard to sound smart on org. Also whyre you getting heated nigga you MUST be ND

 

[pandamonium]

Dnrd you’re trying so hard to sound smart on org. Also whyre you getting heated nigga you MUST be ND

Nigga this is basic middle school neurology

 

[tomcaelum]

Nigga this is basic middle school neurology

I didn’t take neurology in middle school, I did entrepreneurship. I’ll prob learn abt it in anatomy my junior year

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Napolean was high iq and was a military strategist. People liked this leading him to have positive reinforcement and eventually became more charismatic and once he became a leader he reached a huge state of positive reinforcement. This isnt something u can learn.

And what did you say earlier?

That is EVERYONES source of confidence. You cannot artificially generate confidence or “tell yourself to be more confident”. Confidence comes from social proof. If you are 6’6 and good lookingu will naturally be confident for two reasons.

1) everyone will treat u well. (Signals to your brain that there is nothing to worry about)
2) you know what you can use to back it up

You said that looks are EVERYBODYS source of confidence

Then, you gave me an example of a manlet subhuman, who gained recognition and respect FOR HIS MERITS

 

[pandamonium]

And what did you say earlier?


You said that looks are EVERYBODYS source of confidence

Then, you gave me an example of a manlet subhuman, who gained recognition and respect FOR HIS MERITS

Stop context dropping and making strawmans

Looks are the main source this was just a hyperbolic statement the main point ive been saying this whole thread even from the start is that its genetics and environment.
Him having high iq and being in a good environment just helps my point of the genetics. It doesnt have to always be looks. No shit if ur jeff bezos and have 145 iq which is genetic u can be a strategic person, have higher levels of charisma and lead to people treating you better

The crux is that what determines ur neurotypicality is unchangeable atleast to a large degree. Even if u tell urself good thoughts and try to make people laugh. If people treat u like shit anyways ur brain will respond negatively to the treatment. In fact it will react worse than someone who doesnt try. U can do things to improve it but if u have nothing to show for it it doesnt fuckikg matter

 

[pandamonium]

I didn’t take neurology in middle school, I did entrepreneurship. I’ll prob learn abt it in anatomy my junior year

You also learn this in biology and how your brain responds to chemicals like dopamine and serotonin

Doing drugs has infinitely better effect than telling urself to think positive or whatever copes u advise

 

[tomcaelum]

You also learn this in biology and how your brain responds to chemicals like dopamine and serotonin

Doing drugs has infinitely better effect than telling urself to think positive or whatever copes u advise

I don’t have to cope though, I was “born lucky” in a rich family and super nt as ppl on this forum would say. Maybe it’s different for me because I’m not in their shoes, but I would definitely advocate for self improvement and changing your situation before doing drugs

 

[pandamonium]

I don’t have to cope though, I was “born lucky” in a rich family and super nt as ppl on this forum would say. Maybe it’s different for me because I’m not in their shoes, but I would definitely advocate for self improvement and changing your situation before doing drugs

yes looksmaxxing can possibly increase ur nt but thats only if u actually become more attractive significantly. Otherwise do drugs.

“Positive thinking” will never make u NT

 

[tomcaelum]

yes looksmaxxing can possibly increase ur nt but thats only if u actually become more attractive significantly. Otherwise do drugs.

“Positive thinking” will never make u NT

This is literally the point I was trying to say. You just contradicted your whole thread “You can’t change how NT you are” JFL. There’s always gonna be people at the bottom who stay incels. That’s just how things work.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

This is literally the point I was trying to say. You just contradicted your whole thread “You can’t change how NT you are” JFL. There’s always gonna be people at the bottom who stay incels. That’s just how things work.

I'm significantly better looking than I was in my youth

And significantly more mentally ill and worse off, because I obsessed over looks entirely

I'm better looking, and less NT

Looks are not even the #1 factor, its environment. Friends, family, teachers, and your social status largely

Aggression in youth can cause low inhib in adulthood, despite this angry individual being an ogre.

Not even #1

 

[tomcaelum]

I'm significantly better looking than I was in my youth

And significantly more mentally ill and worse off, because I obsessed over looks entirely

I'm better looking, and less NT

Looks are not even the #1 factor, its environment.

Makes sense

 

[pandamonium]

This is literally the point I was trying to say. You just contradicted your whole thread “You can’t change how NT you are” JFL. There’s always gonna be people at the bottom who stay incels. That’s just how things work.

You cant urself but positive reinforcement from others can. U can only do things to increase the chances of positive reinforcement

 

[trvthnvke]

It isnt. U can imitate specific actions but the fundamentals of being nt cant be replixated. Bejng a nt person isnt about what u say its about how u say it with intrinsic shit like confidence, inhib, bejng able to do whatever without giving a fuck. Three things that cant be faked atleast for a long period of time.

U can copy what someone writes but u cant completely copy someones style or unique way of handwriting

What @tomcaelum said. Being NT is literally just about fitting in (not standing out negatively) with people who aren't on the same wave-length as you (which is fucking stupid - unless it's related to a professional setting, in which case, you should stay surface-level). That means if you have the gall to man up consistently, and over a long enough period of time, you'll probably just notice it isn't as bad as you thought. Of course, though, low inhib # NT.

Why environment should not matter if consistent
This is getting into the redpill territory, I can't lie. But anyone who isn't a stinking sub-human can probably relate to people at least pitying you - regardless of how bad (of course, to a certain extent) you just failed at a social situation. People see themselves as saints. They see themselves as nice people. If you aren't repulsing, any form of rejection will likely be limited to "I have a [...]", or "Sorry, I've got to go", a skeptical look, whatever. Whether that would be at school, a party, or at the dinner table. That, for some truecels, can at least help them get the foot in the door for being fucking normal without getting a heart attack over being asked for directions.

Perceived NT (Low Inhib) / Interactions as a Numbers Game
After they manage to speak to people, they just have to emulate the general mannerisms (body language) and not spaz out over their hobbies, like fucking dinosaurs (whether literally or not). Test the waters. See what you can say without the person being physically repulsed. Do not do this in a professional setting. --If you spent any amount of time actually informing yourself, and putting your knowledge to use (annas-archive.org, remember that?), you would quickly come to find out that interacting with people is a numbers game anyway (if you're trying to really get on the same page with someone). Everyone is different, and some won't accept your personality, aka. who you are.

Being NT is just having higher self-control, less brainrot, and more confidence.

TL;DR: Being text-book NT is cope. Just be low inhib and talk to people without making yourself a fool.

 

[igniteisbad]

I became 10x more NT in a few months

 

[soggra]

NT barely matters