You don’t need a rhinoplasty, just mew

[Deleted member 14774]

 

[Deleted member 17920]

i thought they were kinda blackpilled wtf

 

[Pakicel]

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Rhino would have no impact on his SMV. Pheno is death tier.

 

[Pakicel]

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I don;t even think his nose can be entirely fixed either. Just seems like a lot of thick skin.

 

[Deleted member 14774]

Rhino would have no impact on his SMV. Pheno is death tier.

Still, his nose is the kind that would make me stop and stare if I walked past him on the street.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Rhino would have no impact on his SMV. Pheno is death tier.

i agree this is a shit pheno but it would at least bring him from low tier ince lto high tier incel

 

[Deleted member 1901]

It never began

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

i thought they were kinda blackpilled wtf

it's reddit. you say 'mog' once and you're perma

 

[Deleted member 19766]

OVER FOR HIM. HIS NOSE IS PRACTICALLY UNFIXABLE BECAUSE ITS FROM THICK SKIN. RHINO WOULD LOOK UNCANNY ASF.

 

[khvirgin]

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I'm the only one that thinks that the comments would have been different if he was white?
I think some people are worried about telling ethnics to get surgery, especially for features like noses and lips

 

[Deleted member 15370]

I'm the only one that thinks that the comments would have been different if he was white?
I think some people are worried about telling ethnics to get surgery, especially for features like noses and lips

How come?

 

[Artemis]

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God, do they even have the UPPER LIMIT of COPE?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

your nose suits you bro

 

[os_cria]

OVER FOR HIM. HIS NOSE IS PRACTICALLY UNFIXABLE BECAUSE ITS FROM THICK SKIN. RHINO WOULD LOOK UNCANNY ASF.

you say based on what?
are you a rhino surgeon?

 

[Artemis]

OVER FOR HIM. HIS NOSE IS PRACTICALLY UNFIXABLE BECAUSE ITS FROM THICK SKIN. RHINO WOULD LOOK UNCANNY ASF.

Might be over, but even in the thick skin, cartilage removal still gives SOME result. It is just that the nose tip cannot be as refined as the patient wants.

However, he can do A LOT better than this. RN his nose and skin literally make him deformed. Plastic surgery can make his nose "passable", then he can start fixing the skin.

 

[khvirgin]

How come?

Because wide noses are mostly ethnic
I got called racist for suggesting rhino to some black guy on reddit

Like this redditor call it a "nose to be proud of" what kind of shit is that?

 

[os_cria]

your nose suits you bro

i might even call it a nose to be proud of

Ofc, nigga's nose sizemogs 99% of earth mass

 

[ChristianChad]

he looks masculine and good tbh. idk about SMV tho. he looks very wise

 

[Deleted member 19766]

Might be over, but even in the thick skin, cartilage removal still gives SOME result. It is just that the nose tip cannot be as refined as the patient wants.

However, he can do A LOT better than this. RN his nose and skin literally make him deformed. Plastic surgery can make his nose "passable", then he can start fixing the skin.

Easy to look uncanny though tbh, but yeah sometimes mfs like Amnesia get lucky, my suboptimal nose is caused by thick skin as well, any thoughts on how to make sure it ends up looking fine and producing as good a result as possible?

 

[ChristianChad]

he probably just needs a genio maybe



this is like a villager from the causcaus mountains asking if he should get a rhinoplasty. i assume where he is from blackpill doesnt matter

 

[ChristianChad]

Plastic surgery can make his nose "passable", then he can start fixing the skin.

he will look gay tho

 

[Artemis]

Easy to look uncanny though tbh, but yeah sometimes mfs like Amnesia get lucky, my suboptimal nose is caused by thick skin as well, any thoughts on how to make sure it ends up looking fine and producing as good a result as possible?

This is one of those cases tbh, when UNCANNY >>> NATURAL

I myself have a thick skin nose. At the consultation, the surgeon told me he is going to remove some cartilage, and also remove some layer of internal skin/fascia/idk-what-that-is so that the tip is more in line with the rest... however, he just said that while the improvement is def. expected, it will be within limits.

But in the case of this guy in particular: his nose is so terrible, that he could opt for literal SKIN REMOVAL from nose tip, and then PRAY that the scars blend well with the rest of the skin in the tip

 

[Artemis]

he will look gay tho

Better than what he has now 100%

 

[Artemis]

he looks masculine and good tbh. idk about SMV tho.

he looks very wise

AH right...

 

[Pakicel]

This is one of those cases tbh, when UNCANNY >>> NATURAL

I myself have a thick skin nose. At the consultation, the surgeon told me he is going to remove some cartilage, and also remove some layer of internal skin/fascia/idk-what-that-is so that the tip is more in line with the rest... however, he just said that while the improvement is def. expected, it will be within limits.

But in the case of this guy in particular: his nose is so terrible, that he could opt for literal SKIN REMOVAL from nose tip, and then PRAY that the scars blend well with the rest of the skin in the tip

Yeah. I have seen your pics. I think he could improve the shape conservatively and make the tip narrower but it will still be somewhat bulbous. I could justify a rhino still as your nose is bad. Plus, you are white with acceptable pheno so these looksmaxxes actually make a difference in how you are perceived by women. But I don't think nose really matters that much to women unless it is really really bad.

A dude like this would just go from tera deathnic with deformed nose to tera deathnic with just a big uncanny looking nose. No real change in his appeal to women.

 

[ChristianChad]

AH right...

kekd... but these designs are not based on nothing

 

[Pakicel]

Better than what he has now 100%

I have seen rhino results with his starting nose and tbh most did improve whilst looking a little fake. But yeah, there is the risk of the surgeon fucking up badly or something else going wrong. That is just how surgery works.

 

[ChristianChad]

A dude like this would just go from tera deathnic with deformed nose to tera deathnic with just a big uncanny looking nose. No real change in his appeal to women.

this

 

[Pakicel]

he looks masculine and good

 

[ChristianChad]

what i meant is that he is not handsome, but he has some facial harmony. he doesnt look deformed to me. this is literally just the average guy from some iranian/armenian/azer/??? village

 

[Pakicel]

AH right...

Btw did you stress that you wanna avoid a feminine upturned kinda nose in your consultation with marianetti? Most of his results are suprisingly good and don't have that fake look many other surgeons have but there is a user on here who ended up with an upturned femboy nose. What gives? Cause you 100% want to avoid that. You can't look gay.

 

[Pakicel]

what i meant is that he is not handsome, but he has some facial harmony. he doesnt look deformed to me. this is literally just the average guy from some iranian/armenian/azer/??? village

He has no harmony retard. Pheno and harmony are connected. Some phenotypes just make you like utter shit. His is one of those.

 

[Artemis]

Yeah. I have seen your pics. I think he could improve the shape conservatively and make the tip narrower but it will still be somewhat bulbous. I could justify a rhino still as your nose is bad. Plus, you are white with acceptable pheno so these looksmaxxes actually make a difference in how you are perceived by women. But I don't think nose really matters that much to women unless it is really really bad.

A dude like this would just go from tera deathnic with deformed nose to tera deathnic with just a big uncanny looking nose. No real change in his appeal to women.

I am looking for a surgeon who has more experience with "thick skin" noses at the moment. The guy I consulted is reputable, but cuts noses predominantly in Scandinavia. Here the most common defects are "simple": humps, bone deviations, and other stuff where he just shaves the bone, and guys get a model nose in 30 minutes. Bulbous noses with thick skin is rare here, and he probably has a very limited experience.

Was thinking of going to Marianetti, but he literally has a queue of TWO (2) damn years
In general, in EU i think most experienced surgeons with this would be in Italy. Turkey also an option, but too afraid to leave the EU for any procedure harder than HT.

 

[Decretum1483]

@Bipedal Dog Arab slayer

 

[Artemis]

Btw did you stress that you wanna avoid a feminine upturned kinda nose in your consultation with marianetti? Most of his results are suprisingly good and don't have that fake look many other surgeons have but there is a user on here who ended up with an upturned femboy nose. What gives? Cause you 100% want to avoid that. You can't look gay.

I did not consult Marianetti. I consulted Ramieri with respect to cheek implants. Marianetti has a queue.

The guy i contacted is an obscure local surgeon with a good reputation

Yes, I absolutely want to avoid an upturned nose. That I DID mention when consulting, because they guy LITERALLY SUGGESTED i have my nose "slightly" upturned... he thought "it was good on your face"

Yeah, it is kinda hard to find a good specialist with proper experiences

 

[Pakicel]

I am looking for a surgeon who has more experience with "thick skin" noses at the moment. The guy I consulted is reputable, but cuts noses predominantly in Scandinavia. Here the most common defects are "simple": humps, bone deviations, and other stuff where he just shaves the bone, and guys get a model nose in 30 minutes. Bulbous noses with thick skin is rare here, and he probably has a very limited experience.

Was thinking of going to Marianetti, but he literally has a queue of TWO (2) damn years
In general, in EU i think most experienced surgeons with this would be in Italy. Turkey also an option, but too afraid to leave the EU for any procedure harder than HT.

Tbh I see a lot of surgeons in my home country (Pakistan) produce better results on ethnic noses than even surgeons in italy or turkey as much as it is hard to believe. For rhinos, you want someone who has operated on your kind of nose before.

 

[ChristianChad]

He has no harmony retard. Pheno and harmony are connected. Some phenotypes just make you like utter shit. His is one of those.

why cant ethnics love themselves?

I look at him from the point of view as a man not a foid, i dont think he is particularly ugly. he looks respectable to me, same thing would probably apply to woman from where his genetics are from, i feel like he would just be the average guy. this is from my understanding of beauty, sometimes you have to be a bit bluepilled, because the blackpill doesnt apply everywhere in the world. and i think severe ugliness is something that is determined by your skeletal development, less genetics. he could be a top tier bone mogger, but just because of his genetics he got this nose. it doesnt mean anything about his health, its as genetic as a phenotype. so unless youre living in some western country i dont see this mattering, aswell as hes pheno obviously. just because the fact that biological beauty = health, and less necessarily genetics, a lot moreso if your livining in a place filled with the same pheno.

 

[Artemis]

the blackpill doesnt apply everywhere in the world.... unless youre living in some western country i dont see this mattering, aswell as hes pheno obviously.

Bro, while blackpill indeed is not as important in some countries as it is in the West, I specifically HIGHLIGHTED it FOR YOU:

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Extremely coarse skin + thick bulbous nose = instant death, cou de grace is the phenotype too

 

[chigoha]

HOLY FUCK his nose is almost as wide as his IPD

 

[ChristianChad]

Bro, while blackpill indeed is not as important in some countries as it is in the West, I specifically HIGHLIGHTED it FOR YOU:

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choose your battles bro. i wouldnt tell some arab giga NT normie who grew up in some village to visit this site and research looksmaxxing even if i think it would improve his life. users here and normal people are on way different wavelengthes

im just speaking hypothetically on situations, i dont think it would be worth it for him to looksmaxx, especially as just judging from his face he is NT. probably some student from Uni posting from his laptop.


he would probably not do well dating in whatever country he is studying rn tho... and what can you do. you move somewhere and suddendly you are basically the bottom of the barrel by women, because these are different cultures. for context, you probably couldnt date in his respective home country aswell or in lets say somewhere like Chechnya. just way different cultures and culture clashes because of globalisation. some are more suited to globalisation and some less, id say its better for everybody to marry within their own respective cultures.


biologically speaking tho, he is not that unattractive. that is what i think

 

[Artemis]

Tbh I see a lot of surgeons in my home country (Pakistan) produce better results on ethnic noses than even surgeons in italy or turkey as much as it is hard to believe. For rhinos, you want someone who has operated on your kind of nose before.

I love this guy's results. The only reason not going to him is that he is based in Turkey.

I do not know what he does to those noses, but this is one thick skin result, which is insane even before it heals:

Crazy good result for such a nose

And THIS other plastic surgeon, I hope NO ONE with thick skin here meets IRL on the operating table:

Lol at this result

 

[Pakicel]

why cant ethnics love themselves?

I look at him from the point of view as a man not a foid, i dont think he is particularly ugly. he looks respectable to me, same thing would probably apply to woman from where his genetics are from, i feel like he would just be the average guy. this is from my understanding of beauty, sometimes you have to be a bit bluepilled, because the blackpill doesnt apply everywhere in the world. and i think severe ugliness is something that is determined by your skeletal development, less genetics. he could be a top tier bone mogger, but just because of his genetics he got this nose. it doesnt mean anything about his health, its as genetic as a phenotype. so unless youre living in some western country i dont see this mattering, aswell as hes pheno obviously.

Dude, there are good ethnic phenos and bad ethnic phenos. It is not even always connected to skin tone or even how 'Eurocentric' your features are. His sucks ass and is bad even for an arab or wherever he is likely from.

I don't hate myself. But these are just the facts.

 

[Pakicel]

I love this guy's results. The only reason not going to him is that he is based in Turkey.

I do not know what he does to those noses, but this is one thick skin result, which is insane even before it heals:

Crazy good result for such a nose

Look at the nostrils. I gotta feeling it will look fake even when it heals.

And THIS other plastic surgeon, I hope NO ONE with thick skin here meets IRL on the operating table:

Lol at this result

Better than the above. Still looks natural even though nose looks shit. Also, these are foids. Men cannot look feminine and fake.

 

[chigoha]

Extremely coarse skin + thick bulbous nose = instant death, cou de grace is the phenotype too

if we ignore the nose, what can fix his coarse skin ? i have a similar skin to him (less worse and white version of his skin)

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

if we ignore the nose, what can fix his coarse skin ? i have a similar skin to him (less worse and white version of his skin)

I’m assuming the troughs and bumps along his face are a result of acne in his earlier years + skin that scars and fibroses easy.

He needs some that would turn over new skin aka retinoids but it would questionable as to how much he could tolerate if he had sensitive skin.

For the scarring and hyperpigmentation I would suggest something like niacinimide generally well tolerated anti inflammatory and is quite effective.

Maybe adapelene too to keep his pores clear

Add that with a shit tonne of moisturising around the clock and sunscreen to prevent any further damage

 

[ChristianChad]

Dude, there are good ethnic phenos and bad ethnic phenos. It is not even always connected to skin tone or even how 'Eurocentric' your features are. His sucks ass and is bad even for an arab or wherever he is likely from.

I don't hate myself. But these are just the facts.

but he is not arab thats just the thing, he looks iranian or azer or something. you probably think all "ethnics" are under the same catagory as subhuman creatures, but i bet this guy doesnt look paki at all. his pheno looks bad because he is not the pheno where youre from, where he is from he probably looks normal.

if you dont hate yourself, what do you think about paki phenos, as a paki? the answer should be neutral; unless you are self hating because you are an internet wizard, studied or lived abroad, or are more mixed and have a complex; likely you are everything combined, kek.
it doesnt make sense to hate your pheno and way of life, unless youre very smart or cycnical. you need to reintigrate and connect to your people again via islam, marriage after your done spending your time online or studying and living abroad, the same way your people "coped" for hundreds of years before.

 

[ChristianChad]

I’m assuming the troughs and bumps along his face are a result of acne in his earlier years + skin that scars and fibroses easy.

He needs some that would turn over new skin aka retinoids but it would questionable as to how much he could tolerate if he had sensitive skin.

For the scarring and hyperpigmentation I would suggest something like niacinimide generally well tolerated anti inflammatory and is quite effective.

Maybe adapelene too to keep his pores clear

Add that with a shit tonne of moisturising around the clock and sunscreen to prevent any further damage

you show this guy any of this shit and he would call you a faggot. i think this site is very gay tbh. western dating forces men to become feminine minded homosexuals, and this site is the epitome of that, you literally need to think like a woman

 

[yuyu]

but he is not arab thats just the thing, he looks iranian or azer or something. you probably think all "ethnics" are under the same catagory as subhuman creatures, but i bet this guy doesnt look paki at all. his pheno looks bad because he is not the pheno where youre from, where he is from he probably looks normal.

if you dont hate yourself, what do you think about paki phenos, as a paki? the answer should be neutral; unless you are self hating because you are an internet wizard, studied or lived abroad, or are more mixed and have a complex; likely you are everything combined, kek.
it doesnt make sense to hate your pheno and way of life, unless youre very smart or cycnical. you need to reintigrate and connect to your people again via islam, marriage after your done spending your time online or studying and living abroad, the same way your people "coped" for hundreds of years before.

No he's right though. It's not about ethnic = subhuman, I've seen many times where Pakicel says it's not about being as white or eurocentric-passing as much as it is about having a good ethnic pheno as this affects your base for objective PSL ascension. Which is 100% true and honestly non-ethnics here don't understand this, especially when rating or suggesting looksmaxxes for curries where it shows cause they tell them to become whiter. That's anything but self-hating. You become whiter with a bad pheno = uncanny, look like shit, bad undertones, tanked SMV even more

It's not about ethnic = subhuman cause even you know OP's pheno is death tier anywhere and only fitting where he is. Even then, there is little room for ascension for where he is because his pheno as such affects his harmony (bulbous nose = linked to his pheno) and reduces his desirability to his own women. If he had a better one he could ascend better and have better success with his own women looksmaxxing, but now he'll need to stay in the confines of his place, have money and resources, look for emotional connection with a wife that isn't really physically attracted to him

For some reason you're saying this guy is manly, wise, handsome etc. Yet you also imply he shouldn't find out about the blackpill and looksmaxxing for his own good, i.e. you know he can barely ascend.

His pheno doesn't look bad because he's not where Pakicel's from - his pheno is objectively bad by facial aesthetic standards as it affects his harmony, his skin texture, hair texture etc and only then does skin and undertones come into play. His pheno is bad enough for you to also know he can't ascend. Not only is he dark skinned which makes his appeal lower (it's race reality, even experts like QOVES know this) and needs to compensate more with less PSL failos as opposed to classic dark-brown white-skin pheno for a similar PSL rate, but on top of that he has craniofacial and skull failos, that nose, asymmetry, non-existent lips, etc

When you say someone's pheno is bad as an ethnic yourself, it doesn't mean you hate ethnics. It's just being realistic with looksmaxxing ability by universal standards and only then factoring your hometown location etc. Skull, pheno determine so much of someone's base - only later does amount of forward growth even matter.

I'm Paki and don't hate myself either, don't hate my pheno or anything. I'm not a self-hating ethnic and despise any curry that hates themselves or tries to whitewash for white approval. I couldn't care less about being whiter, don't want to, I want to have the best skin for my brown skin tone. But even then despite not being self-hating of my origins, pheno, nationality, I admit that - by objective PSL standards - there are some darker and lesser favorable phenos that tank someone's attractiveness if they have facial failos whilst having poor coloring + not near-perfect craniofacial growth. And whiter and more favorable phenos that can get away with more.

For instance, there are also objectively more attractive phenos in Pakistan. Now I wouldn't discriminate someone for being Dravidian or that, nor idolise them for having a lightskin bollywood pheno, but in Pakistan and India for e.g. this stuff matters for mass appeal cause said phenos produce more gl people on average. Isn't it coincidental that the people in India and Pakistan with the most appeal are those that have lighter brown skin, better undertones, and top percentile curry features (skull proportions, orbital size, nose, lips, hair) to run harmony game? Not that other phenos are hated by others, but the better the pheno likelier the better the base and ability to looksmax and/or produce objectively more attractive offspring, which is why they have larger appeal

Pakis and Indians are only self-hating when they try to white-wash themselves (skin, colored contacts) instead of looksmaxing for their pheno because of the archaic belief that white = more attractive and all moral qualities ascribed to beauty like purity etc. That's self-hating: being something you're not for validation. Telling someone that their pheno is too bad to looksmax and have a considerable change isn't self hating for your own kind, it's being truthful cause that's how the game works. For some phenos to have more appeal, other phenos need to be objectively more undesirable, and they tend to be more undesirable cause of their poor harmony and indicators of things like skin, orbital area, nose, lips, hair texture

The latter 2 paragraphs are the gist of what Pakicel propagates and that's not self-hating. He's just realistic but you're being disingenuous trying not to call OP ugly because you presume the intentions behind calling his pheno ugly is malicious

 

[Artemis]

i think this site is very gay tbh. western dating forces men to become feminine minded homosexuals

I WANT TO, but CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THIS ASSESSMENT