You don't need to be Perfect: Explaining the Key indicators of Attractiveness

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Just got my dick sucked using my method of frauding with shoulder pads + lifts + cheek hollowness from fat dissolvers. You can use this knowledge to become attractive, too. (Don't ask me specifically what to buy. You can figure it out if you're high IQ. I want the low IQ cels to suffer.)

Humans aren't designed to be attracted to perfection. Humans are designed to be attracted to a couple of features that signal fertility (health and sexual dimorphism). So don't stress about minor flaws like nose (bulbosity, convexity, or flatness), or wrist size. Sure, objectively they are imperfections, but they aren't the reason you can't attract females.

The key features in females that are sexually attractive are neotenous face, and small waist relative to hips. These are the most important features. You can draw a very unrealistic-looking picture of a female but if you exaggerate neoteny and waist to hip ratio it will attract men. Anime foids are an example of this phenomenon.

For men, robust facial bones and a large upper body relative to hips are the key attractiveness indicators. Sure, facial harmony would be a bonus, but it isn't crititcal like facial bone dimorphism is. You can have fairly bad facial harmony, but with strong features you will still possess a face worthy of attraction.

Additionally, not all facial features have to be dimorphic. In terms of sexual selection, they are merely indicators that you are a developed male. For example, if you have a weak chin but a strong brow ridge and ramus, then the weak chin can be overlooked because it is apparent that you had a high level of masculinization during development due to the presense of a large brow and ramus.

If all your features lack dimorphism, then a female can be certain that something went wrong during your puberty. If this is the case for you, it may be over, but one thing you can try is to remove as much cheek fat as possible. Since hollow cheeks are a dimorphic trait, they may save you from undimorphic bones, as long as your bones are robust enough to allow for cheek hollowness after fat loss.

What about height? You see, height technically isn't critical to attractiveness because it is relative to the other competing males, whereas inherently critical attractiveness indicators are more about proportions. I'm not saying height isn't necessary in the modern world, I'm explaing a technical nuance.

If you had a tribe and the tallest man was 5'8, then 5'8 would be an attractive height to the females. Due to globalization, 5'8 is now an over-tier height. As a 5'9 manlet, I use lifts to fraud height. Soon (by the end of this year) I will be getting LL so I don't have to use lifts/wear shoes constantly.
 
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Overall pretty water but true;)
 
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If it works, it works. Ideally get LL and gymmax or do something else for bidelt so U dont have to fraud. Im too lazy to gymmax but will be getting LL.
 
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shouldve added how most people irl are mltns to hltns and that jordan barret or chico isnt going
Just got my dick sucked using my method of frauding with shoulder pads + lifts + cheek hollowness from fat dissolvers. You can use this knowledge to become attractive, too. (Don't ask me specifically what to buy. You can figure it out if you're high IQ. I want the low IQ cels to suffer.)

Humans aren't designed to be attracted to perfection. Humans are designed to be attracted to a couple of features that signal fertility (health and sexual dimorphism). So don't stress about minor flaws like nose (bulbosity, convexity, or flatness), or wrist size. Sure, objectively they are imperfections, but they aren't the reason you can't attract females.

The key features in females that are sexually attractive are neotenous face, and small waist relative to hips. These are the most important features. You can draw a very unrealistic-looking picture of a female but if you exaggerate neoteny and waist to hip ratio it will attract men. Anime foids are an example of this phenomenon.

For men, robust facial bones and a large upper body relative to hips are the key attractiveness indicators. Sure, facial harmony would be a bonus, but it isn't crititcal like facial bone dimorphism is. You can have fairly bad facial harmony, but with strong features you will still possess a face worthy of attraction.

Additionally, not all facial features have to be dimorphic. In terms of sexual selection, they are merely indicators that you are a developed male. For example, if you have a weak chin but a strong brow ridge and ramus, then the weak chin can be overlooked because it is apparent that you had a high level of masculinization during development due to the presense of a large brow and ramus.

If all your features lack dimorphism, then a female can be certain that something went wrong during your puberty. If this is the case for you, it may be over, but one thing you can try is to remove as much cheek fat as possible. Since hollow cheeks are a dimorphic trait, they may save you from undimorphic bones, as long as your bones are robust enough to allow for cheek hollowness after fat loss.

What about height? You see, height technically isn't critical to attractiveness because it is relative to the other competing males, whereas inherently critical attractiveness indicators are more about proportions. I'm not saying height isn't necessary in the modern world, I'm explaing a technical nuance.

If you had a tribe and the tallest man was 5'8, then 5'8 would be an attractive height to the females. Due to globalization, 5'8 is now an over-tier height. As a 5'9 manlet, I use lifts to fraud height. Soon (by the end of this year) I will be getting LL so I don't have to use lifts/wear shoes constantly.
 
unironically a pretty good thread
 
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shouldve added how most people irl are mltns to hltns and that jordan barret or chico isnt going
Whatever the average is, should be MTN. Ur saying LTN is average which doesn't really make sense. Autists like me will sperg out at your concept.
 
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Whatever the average is, should be MTN. Ur saying LTN is average which doesn't really make sense. Autists like me will sperg out at your concept.
most people you find irl are ltns have you ever gone outside maybe it might be my country where i live in that everyone is ltn but obv you dont see models everyday do you? ive never seen a htn here in France everyone in my school is either ltn,ltb or completely sub human
 
If it works, it works. Ideally get LL and gymmax or do something else for bidelt so U dont have to fraud. Im too lazy to gymmax but will be getting LL.
just get on test or roids bruh you got like 80 days till summer
 
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most people you find irl are ltns have you ever gone outside maybe it might be my country where i live in that everyone is ltn but obv you dont see models everyday do you? ive never seen a htn here in France everyone in my school is either ltn,ltb or completely sub human
Strawmaning my argument. Ur saying because i "dont see models everyday" that most people must be LTN. MY arguement is that the metric of MTN should be based on 50th percentile, because this is a logical definition of "mid tier" unlike ur arbitrary definition.
 
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just get on test or roids bruh you got like 80 days till summer
Could work but don't want to lose health/youth/hair

Sure u could argue the side effects of drugs can be countered by more drugs but I dont want to deal with the complexity of that, too many things to go wrong.

Besides I need to save everything for LL at the moment.
 
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Brutal needing shoulder pads just for some head
 
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Brutal needing shoulder pads just for some head
Im giga subhuman

I lack both dimorphism and facial harmony, my only attractive trait is that I look young with good skin (look 15 at 22)
 
Strawmaning my argument. Ur saying because i "dont see models everyday" that most people must be LTN. MY arguement is that the metric of MTN should be based on 50th percentile, because this is a logical definition of "mid tier" unlike ur arbitrary definition.
average is hltn btw you can ask anyone you want its just the ratings which are flawed i was giving you advice on how you could add this because you don't have to have model tier looks to pull someone you only have to be better than the competition its not like everyone in your school looks like Jordan Barret
 
average is hltn btw you can ask anyone you want its just the ratings which are flawed i was giving you advice on how you could add this because you don't have to have model tier looks to pull someone you only have to be better than the competition its not like everyone in your school looks like Jordan Barret
Shut the fuck up with ur imbecile-tier speech. I doubt U even comprehended my thread.
 
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@IAMNOTANINCEL @isis_Bleach @Bugmaxxed @JustCallMeKash @zurrity
 
Im giga subhuman

I lack both dimorphism and facial harmony, my only attractive trait is that I look young with good skin (look 15 at 22)
What’s ur rate and height?
 
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say wahalli you wouldn't want to look like prime alain delon
 
I would have liked your post if you weren't sciencel
 
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How am i sciencecel?
sexual dimorphism

facial bone dimorphism

If all your features lack dimorphism, a dimorphic trait
There's no difference in the male/female face

Dimorphism doesn't exist, there are only what's considered a male/female trait

What you called robust facial bones simply means they stand out, as you described, due to facial fat removal, but you didn't gain any bones from it

And so I agree that there is no point in trying to perfect your appearance, threshold to look attractive is not that high
 
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There's no difference in the male/female face

Dimorphism doesn't exist, there are only what's considered a male/female trait

What you called robust facial bones simply means they stand out, as you described, due to facial fat removal, but you didn't gain any bones from it

And so I agree that there is no point in trying to perfect your appearance, threshold to look attractive is not that high
Dimorphism is a fact, not a theory. Anyone can tell that males and females differ on more than their genitalia.
 
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Most dimorphic/attractive feature for a man is sadly height and frame, jst look at the womens comments on tiktok

Once you have that all you need to do is to get lean and debloat to show as much bone/angularity on your face as possible

And then skinmax to have glass tier skin

This is jst what I have observed from being a moneycel and not being able to really looksmax and I jst find women with wide hips and a fat ahh attractive so I assume its the same for women that they find dimorphic features attractive aswell

But once I start making money my 2nd ascension plan is pretty much the same as yours I'm also 5'9, "basically 5'10" :jfl: get LL surgery only 3 inches cuz I still wanna be athletic asf and then wear 1 inch lifts in my shoes and claim 6'2 since I have everything a tall man is supposed to have expect the height lol, I have good bonemass, but I look like a chipmunk if im not starving and debloating myself cuz I have alot of fat in my cheeks even tho im lean, so im gonna use aqualyx along with going on a lifelong diet and then skinmax to get that prettyboy halo then I'll be a nt slayer and leave all of this behind like a small chapter of my life holy rant holy water
 
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Overall good thread I think we should all my dimorphisimmaxxing along with health indicatormaxxing
 
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But once I start making money my 2nd ascension plan is pretty much the same as yours I'm also 5'9, "basically 5'10" :jfl: get LL surgery only 3 inches cuz I still wanna be athletic asf and then wear 1 inch lifts in my shoes and claim 6'2 since I have everything a tall man is supposed to have expect the height lol, I have good bonemass, but I look like a chipmunk if im not starving and debloating myself cuz I have alot of fat in my cheeks even tho im lean, so im gonna use aqualyx along with going on a lifelong diet and then skinmax to get that prettyboy halo then I'll be a nt slayer and leave all of this behind like a small chapter of my life holy rant holy water
Im not sure if ill get single LL or double LL. I cant be certain until i have the consult. But i think i would get double LL if i can afford it, more height gain and then i wont have the tibia longer than femur or femur longer than tibia, which might be better functionally and aesthetically.

ive been using fat dissolvers in cheeks its a real game changer. i too had a fat face even with a lean body but now i have mogger cheek hollows
 

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