You oldcels are pathetic

[Deleted member 10042]

You guys had the best time to ascend and start a family and you still fucked it up, Now you guys want to talk about age of consent and escort maxxing and all of this shit but you know absolutely nothing you faggot cucks, This is not for all old cels but for the cucks. Even 15-16 year old incels are more based then you pieces of shits,

All of your talking points sound like a female "muh they arent mentally prepared" "muh ascending is cope" shut the fuck up you faggot and go rope you literally had your time in life meanwhile us in the new generation are suffering way more then you and you keep giving cope to youngcels honestly if you dont know what our situation is and how bad it is right now then stop commenting on the posts and go back to facebook faggot

 

[reborn]

You guys had the best time to ascend and start a family and you still fucked it up, Now you guys want to talk about age of consent and escort maxxing and all of this shit but you know absolutely nothing you faggot cucks, This is not for all old cels but for the cucks. Even 15-16 year old incels are more based then you pieces of shits,

All of your talking points sound like a female "muh they arent mentally prepared" "muh ascending is cope" shut the fuck up you faggot and go rope you literally had your time in life meanwhile us in the new generation are suffering way more then you and you keep giving cope to youngcels honestly if you dont know what our situation is and how bad it is right now then stop commenting on the posts and go back to facebook faggot

You mean if society would change you would be better off? You are coping bro. Being a loser is HARDCODED IN YOUR GENES. If you are a loser now you would have been a loser 50, 500, 1000 or 50,000 years ago.

 

[ChristianChad]

You guys had the best time to ascend and start a family and you still fucked it up, Now you guys want to talk about age of consent and escort maxxing and all of this shit but you know absolutely nothing you faggot cucks, This is not for all old cels but for the cucks. Even 15-16 year old incels are more based then you pieces of shits,

All of your talking points sound like a female "muh they arent mentally prepared" "muh ascending is cope" shut the fuck up you faggot and go rope you literally had your time in life meanwhile us in the new generation are suffering way more then you and you keep giving cope to youngcels honestly if you dont know what our situation is and how bad it is right now then stop commenting on the posts and go back to facebook faggot

If you don't have a wife by 25 you will be unahppy and your kids will be ugly because their mother will be old
This is a constant I see everywhere, unless mega NT and just got stuck on career etc. If u just rotted on this years youre a manchild and it's over

 

[Deleted member 15099]

You guys had the best time to ascend and start a family and you still fucked it up, Now you guys want to talk about age of consent and escort maxxing and all of this shit but you know absolutely nothing you faggot cucks, This is not for all old cels but for the cucks. Even 15-16 year old incels are more based then you pieces of shits,

All of your talking points sound like a female "muh they arent mentally prepared" "muh ascending is cope" shut the fuck up you faggot and go rope you literally had your time in life meanwhile us in the new generation are suffering way more then you and you keep giving cope to youngcels honestly if you dont know what our situation is and how bad it is right now then stop commenting on the posts and go back to facebook faggot

Luckily Im a 15 year old autist mentalcel, I hope I don't rot here

 

[CFW432]

I can only sympathize with oldcels if they were truly, by every meaning of the words, ugly in their prime and ugly now. Pre tinder age was probably the best time (I'm not saying was 100% guranteed) for your average joe to still be able to get SOME because your foid was still pretty much restricted to the local pool of men that she personally knew, instead of how now any woman can just hit up tinder and arrange themselves to fuck one of the hottest guys in the same city, state, and country without them actually ever getting to know them personally.

 

[Wallenberg]

OP you sound bitter.

 

[cvzvvc]

You guys had the best time to ascend and start a family and you still fucked it up, Now you guys want to talk about age of consent and escort maxxing and all of this shit but you know absolutely nothing you faggot cucks, This is not for all old cels but for the cucks. Even 15-16 year old incels are more based then you pieces of shits,

All of your talking points sound like a female "muh they arent mentally prepared" "muh ascending is cope" shut the fuck up you faggot and go rope you literally had your time in life meanwhile us in the new generation are suffering way more then you and you keep giving cope to youngcels honestly if you dont know what our situation is and how bad it is right now then stop commenting on the posts and go back to facebook faggot

When you nuttin' but she keep succin'

 

[sytyl]

If you don't have a wife by 25 you will be unahppy and your kids will be ugly because their mother will be old
This is a constant I see everywhere, unless mega NT and just got stuck on career etc. If u just rotted on this years youre a manchild and it's over

the only people I've seen who are 25 and married with kids are working low income jobs and seem overall miserable, given up all aspirations in life, definitely divorced within the next few years
even the yuppies

 

[Deleted member 4430]

ironic

 

[ChristianChad]

the only people I've seen who are 25 and married with kids are working low income jobs and seem overall miserable, given up all aspirations in life, definitely divorced within the next few years
even the yuppies

They're low IQ
It's a fine line between being a niggee with kids at 18 then being a white man with kids at 23 + good job/career path

 

[sytyl]

then being a white man with kids at 23 + good job/career path

this literally never happens though
it's 30+ minimum, for anybody really who wants to live life a bit before being chained down by kids

 

[ChristianChad]

this literally never happens though
it's 30+ minimum, for anybody really who wants to live life a bit before being chained down by kids

Then your kids will be subuman/autism/non masc

If you want slayers you need to have kids with a healthy woman (good Progesterone, Testosterone levels and not Hypothyroid) with a young mother ( who will more likely have all those things I mentioned)
Prenatal T is legit
If it means my kids will be Chads I'm ready to miss out on life a bit, that's the sacrifice of a father

 

[sytyl]

Then your kids will be subuman/autism/non masc

If you want slayers you need to have kids with a healthy woman (good Progesterone, Testosterone levels and not Hypothyroid) with a young mother ( who will more likely have all those things I mentioned)
Prenatal T is legit
If it means my kids will be Chads I'm ready to miss out on life a bit, that's the sacrifice of a father

if you're getting married why would you want to get married to a 30+ woman? that's another conversation

 

[ChristianChad]

if you're getting married why would you want to get married to a 30+ woman? that's another conversation

Because of modern autism
Young woman only

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Because of modern autism
Young woman only

If you really must breed and you want to prevent autistic kids, might be worth freezing your sperm when you are as young as possible. Sperm starts deteriorating and mutating as soon as you start producing it. Certain IVF methods might be promising for creating chads.


Although remember with having kids it's always a diceroll. You could do everything right and still breed out an aspie. Or you and your girl could get in a car accident while he's 5 years old and he ends up in an orphanage.

 

[ChristianChad]

If you really must breed and you want to prevent autistic kids, might be worth freezing your sperm when you are as young as possible. Sperm starts deteriorating and mutating as soon as you start producing it. Certain IVF methods might be promising for creating chads.


Although remember with having kids it's always a diceroll. You could do everything right and still breed out an aspie. Or you and your girl could get in a car accident while he's 5 years old and he ends up in an orphanage.

It's more about age of mother then age of the father

Although remember with having kids it's always a diceroll. You could do everything right and still breed out an aspie. Or you and your girl could get in a car accident while he's 5 years old and he ends up in an orphanage.

Yes but wouldn't you do everything to prevent your kids having autism?

 

[ChristianChad]

It's more about age of mother then age of the father

And freezing eggs wouldn't have much effect, (plus many many cases of the frozen eggs being defective and old woman having their life ruined) it's more about the age/health of the body the baby is developing in rather the egg iirc, especially for things like facial structure and brain development

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

What is the age cutoff for being an oldcel? Asking for a friend

 

[Amnesia]

the fact that young guys have access to this forum alone should be lifefuel for you. You know exactly how to improve your looks. Be grateful you have so much information at your fingertips

 

[Deleted member 14203]

It's more about age of mother then age of the father

It's much more complicated than that. If you want to prevent genetic conditions the age of the father is far more important because sperm multiplies and has more exponentially more chances to spontaneously mutate. While older women the actual quality of the eggs don't deteriorate(much), but the ability to carry and properly develop a baby does deteriorate significantly. Also they are much less fertile so conceiving a baby in the first place is also less likely.


So for genetic conditions, paternal age is more important, but for developmental conditions the maternal age is more important.


I can link up the research if you want but I think the average father passes down one mutation to their child. That one single mutation could be cystic fibrosis if you are unlucky. But if everyone froze their sperm at 13 father's wouldn't pass on any genetic mutations to their children. Only downside is older father's do pass down longer telomeres. Might be worth doing research on, but ya if you really think you have a shot at breeding with a female before 25 than maybe the natural way is best. There are risks to IVF.

And freezing eggs wouldn't have much effect, (plus many many cases of the frozen eggs being defective and old woman having their life ruined) it's more about the age/health of the body the baby is developing in rather the egg iirc, especially for things like facial structure and brain development

A father having a child at 40 is 4x more likely to have an autistic child. Age is important for both males and females.


Also yes this is correct, egg quality doesn't decrease that much, but ability to develop a child in the optimal environment does decrease significantly.


I love human biology but I hate human life tbh. If everyone had my mindset the species might die out in a generation or two. Would be great imo.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

ironic

you are literally a bitter boomer bringing others down

 

[ChristianChad]

I love human biology but I hate human life tbh. If everyone had my mindset the species might die out in a generation or two. Would be great imo.

unfortunately the elite dont want a healthy, strong population

nobody would advocate having kids younger for example, its too blackpilled

 

[ChristianChad]

good reply btw, maybe ill respond to it a bit latre

 

[Deleted member 4430]

you are literally a bitter boomer bringing others down

Op is the same age as you faggot

 

[Deleted member 14203]

unfortunately the elite dont want a healthy, strong population

nobody would advocate having kids younger for example, its too blackpilled

Having kids younger obviously mogs because it's natural. If contraception and societal rules didn't exist the average age of having a first child would be sub 20 I bet. We evolved to die of disease by 35 lol, not start breeding at 35. Its insane to have kids old, my mom was in her early 30s and my dad was in his late 30s when I was born, no wonder I'm autistic. It's amazing I even ended up being a high IQ aspie rather than an actual 50 IQ drooling true autist.


But idk bruh if you want to have kids it's your choice ofc, but the real blackpill is antinatalism. Even if you do everything perfect your kids could still end up Incel or deformed or you could die early, or they could get injured in a freak accident, the list goes on. Too much potential for added suffering imo. My genetic line ends with me.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Too much potential for added suffering imo.

The potential for suffering is 100%.

 

[ChristianChad]

It's amazing I even ended up being a high IQ aspie rather than an actual 50 IQ drooling true autist.

autsitics do well in academia.

 

[ChristianChad]

But idk bruh if you want to have kids it's your choice ofc, but the real blackpill is antinatalism. Even if you do everything perfect your kids could still end up Incel or deformed or you could die early, or they could get injured in a freak accident, the list goes on. Too much potential for added suffering imo. My genetic line ends with me.

anti natalist are the biggest faggots i know and have so much logical holes in them
they are most of the unattractive, legit incel tier "intellectual" faggots


i know you are aspie and itll be hard, but please reconsider. research if u are aspie, then if ur kids will be aspie

 

[Deleted member 14203]

anti natalist are the biggest faggots i know and have so much logical holes in them
they are most of the unattractive, legit incel tier "intellectual" faggots


i know you are aspie and itll be hard, but please reconsider. research if u are aspie, then if ur kids will be aspie

I think there are like 21 genes with links to ASD and there are also proven developmental links. It's a complicated disease to know if you will give it to your child. The best way Is to try and have female kids lol. But then I risk them breeding males and having autistic grandchildren.


Also I'm not unattractive or incel tier. But maybe the reason people who are incel looking are
anti-natalists because they don't want to deliver that fate to someone else. So I don't see how this is a point against me. Also plenty of Incel tier people have attractive or Normie parents. Like my dad was 6'2" and my mom is 5'6" and I ended up with a final height of 5'9" and my sister is 5'9 1/2. Just shows how much genetic variation there can be even amoung siblings.

 

[ChristianChad]

Just shows how much genetic variation there can be even amount siblings.

could be enviornement aka epigenetic

 

[ChristianChad]

think there are like 21 genes with links to ASD and there are also proven developmental links. It's a complicated disease to know if you will give it to your child. The best way Is to try and have female kids lol. But then I risk them breeding males and having autistic grandchildren.

i think autism is a systematic disease, not physical brain difference
unhealthiness is linked with atuism

 

[Deleted member 14203]

could be enviornement aka epigenetic

You can change if and how certain genes are expressed. But most likely the reason why I'm short Is because I went through a earlier and faster puberty than average. I haven't grown since 15. This is genetic. I was never malnourished. If I was a late bloomer I would probably be a giga height mogger like my sister is.

 

[AcneScars]

If you are a loser now you would have been a loser 50, 500, 1000 or 50,000 years ago.

50000 years ago I would’ve raped a female and passed on my genes

 

[Deleted member 10042]

ironic

shut up you fucking 70 yo alcoholic pedo

 

[Deleted member 4430]

shut up you fucking 70 yo alcoholic pedo

what an irony

 

[Deleted member 10042]

what an irony

potato farming pays well?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

potato farming pays well?

reminder you wasting your time for this schizo rambling instead of taking action. Dont be aggressive because some backstabing storyteller tell you to do so

 

[Eduardo DOV]

It's much more complicated than that. If you want to prevent genetic conditions the age of the father is far more important because sperm multiplies and has more exponentially more chances to spontaneously mutate. While older women the actual quality of the eggs don't deteriorate(much), but the ability to carry and properly develop a baby does deteriorate significantly. Also they are much less fertile so conceiving a baby in the first place is also less likely.


So for genetic conditions, paternal age is more important, but for developmental conditions the maternal age is more important.


I can link up the research if you want but I think the average father passes down one mutation to their child. That one single mutation could be cystic fibrosis if you are unlucky. But if everyone froze their sperm at 13 father's wouldn't pass on any genetic mutations to their children. Only downside is older father's do pass down longer telomeres. Might be worth doing research on, but ya if you really think you have a shot at breeding with a female before 25 than maybe the natural way is best. There are risks to IVF.




A father having a child at 40 is 4x more likely to have an autistic child. Age is important for both males and females.


Also yes this is correct, egg quality doesn't decrease that much, but ability to develop a child in the optimal environment does decrease significantly.


I love human biology but I hate human life tbh. If everyone had my mindset the species might die out in a generation or two. Would be great imo.

idk, i know guys whose fathers were old when having them, and they are gl and healthy

 

[Eduardo DOV]

It's much more complicated than that. If you want to prevent genetic conditions the age of the father is far more important because sperm multiplies and has more exponentially more chances to spontaneously mutate. While older women the actual quality of the eggs don't deteriorate(much), but the ability to carry and properly develop a baby does deteriorate significantly. Also they are much less fertile so conceiving a baby in the first place is also less likely.


So for genetic conditions, paternal age is more important, but for developmental conditions the maternal age is more important.


I can link up the research if you want but I think the average father passes down one mutation to their child. That one single mutation could be cystic fibrosis if you are unlucky. But if everyone froze their sperm at 13 father's wouldn't pass on any genetic mutations to their children. Only downside is older father's do pass down longer telomeres. Might be worth doing research on, but ya if you really think you have a shot at breeding with a female before 25 than maybe the natural way is best. There are risks to IVF.




A father having a child at 40 is 4x more likely to have an autistic child. Age is important for both males and females.


Also yes this is correct, egg quality doesn't decrease that much, but ability to develop a child in the optimal environment does decrease significantly.


I love human biology but I hate human life tbh. If everyone had my mindset the species might die out in a generation or two. Would be great imo.

Also:
The risk for chromosome problems increases with the mother's age. The chance of having a child with Down syndrome increases over time. The risk is about 1 in 1,250 for a woman who conceives at age 25. It increases to about 1 in 100 for a woman who conceives at age 40.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Having kids younger obviously mogs because it's natural. If contraception and societal rules didn't exist the average age of having a first child would be sub 20 I bet. We evolved to die of disease by 35 lol, not start breeding at 35. Its insane to have kids old, my mom was in her early 30s and my dad was in his late 30s when I was born, no wonder I'm autistic. It's amazing I even ended up being a high IQ aspie rather than an actual 50 IQ drooling true autist.


But idk bruh if you want to have kids it's your choice ofc, but the real blackpill is antinatalism. Even if you do everything perfect your kids could still end up Incel or deformed or you could die early, or they could get injured in a freak accident, the list goes on. Too much potential for added suffering imo. My genetic line ends with me.

tbh thats bullshit to me, my mother was 21 and my father 27... I am also "autistic", so is my brother.
my friends are "autistic" too, 2 of them their parents were kind of old, the others were young just like mine.

What if having child at an older age is a characteristic of autistic guys and therefore the relationship between one thing and another?

Also, isn't having a longer telomere a good thing?

 

[Eduardo DOV]

my aunt had a son at age 35.. he is very healthy and "high T"(he has muscles and a big body) and even good looking, and neurotypical. He had appendicitis when were 10yo, I don't know if it means something.

idk this guy above writes like if you were to have a son at an older age he will be born fucked, thats not true from what I've seen

 

[Eduardo DOV]

lol, just have kids at 100yo and they will be immortal theory:

Children with older fathers and grandfathers 'live longer'

Children with older fathers and grandfathers are "genetically programmed" to live longer, scientists have discovered.

www.bbc.com

 

[Deleted member 14203]

my aunt had a son at age 35.. he is very healthy and "high T"(he has muscles and a big body) and even good looking, and neurotypical. He had appendicitis when were 10yo, I don't know if it means something.

idk this guy above writes like if you were to have a son at an older age he will be born fucked, thats not true from what I've seen

True. I mean statistically most people have healthy babies even if they do it old. But you can't bring up one specific disease or a couple anecdotes and say that it's a good idea to have kids when you're old. This is redpill cope, men's ability to have healthy children deteriorates with age just like females but people like to cope on here. But either way, ya I exaggerated, it's not insane to have kids when you are old most parents in their 30s can still probably have healthy kids. But I mean if you are going to selfishly create another person and bring them into this cruel cold world the least you can do is at least have the baby young and decrease their odds of having autism and a shit ton of other health problems.


Also, when I mentioned the telomeres I was saying that is a downside to freezing sperm at 18 and using IVF. You won't pass down longer telomeres. But your genes will be less mutated. In that article they specifically said they haven't done any long term research on this so they don't know if overall a higher paternal age leads to improved long term health outcomes. But there is research about the increased risk of negative health outcome from a higher paternal age. Might be something to consider, and maybe it balances out more. But after 40 for males is when the negative health problems start to really ramp up, so definitely don't have kids at 100.


I would think blackpillers of all people would be anti-natalist. Like everyone here is mentally ill, even the chads on here are so I simply don't get why you want to potentially create a new person that will end up like you, mentally ill rotting on an Incel forum. Only mentally and financially stable young normie+ people should be breeding. Even then I think it's a stretch. But people are gonna do what they want and bring more misery.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

True. I mean statistically most people have healthy babies even if they do it old. But you can't bring up one specific disease or a couple anecdotes and say that it's a good idea to have kids when you're old. This is redpill cope, men's ability to have healthy children deteriorates with age just like females but people like to cope on here. But either way, ya I exaggerated, it's not insane to have kids when you are old most parents in their 30s can still probably have healthy kids. But I mean if you are going to selfishly create another person and bring them into this cruel cold world the least you can do is at least have the baby young and decrease their odds of having autism and a shit ton of other health problems.


Also, when I mentioned the telomeres I was saying that is a downside to freezing sperm at 18 and using IVF. You won't pass down longer telomeres. But your genes will be less mutated. In that article they specifically said they haven't done any long term research on this so they don't know if overall a higher paternal age leads to improved long term health outcomes. But there is research about the increased risk of negative health outcome from a higher paternal age. Might be something to consider, and maybe it balances out more. But after 40 for males is when the negative health problems start to really ramp up, so definitely don't have kids at 100.


I would think blackpillers of all people would be anti-natalist. Like everyone here is mentally ill, even the chads on here are so I simply don't get why you want to potentially create a new person that will end up like you, mentally ill rotting on an Incel forum. Only mentally and financially stable young normie+ people should be breeding. Even then I think it's a stretch. But people are gonna do what they want and bring more misery.

I agree with most. I just have one observation to make. it seems that the woman's age has to do with different problems, like down syndrome. and men more to do with mental disorders.

 

[oldcelloser]

you fucking retarded zoomer cucks on this forum should absolute kys now if you believe in marriage in 2021
you fucking retarded cucks
just rope now srs

 

[JBcollector]

You mean if society would change you would be better off? You are coping bro. Being a loser is HARDCODED IN YOUR GENES. If you are a loser now you would have been a loser 50, 500, 1000 or 50,000 years ago.

fallacy

 

[Deleted member 25059]

op rate my thread

oldcels are evil, angry and insidious people

don't get me wrong, I have respect for middle age or old people who know their place and take good care of their family, they know they are not young anymore and they are reconciled with that. I'm talking about those angry, envious 40-60 oldfucks who think they're visible to young women and...

looksmax.org