Your looks, your height and your shoulders' frame is 1000% your masculine BASE that you have to to work from and there is no-doubt about that, but....

[Deleted member 6908]

well you were saying the surgery to make you above average but not chad will force you to put in effort to get laid.

i agree

but Amnesia was proof that Chad tier looks will get laid as a non NT guy, at least with becky tier.

so you could argue that a non NT chad will be unable to get stacies (although I think he will, just not as often as NT chad will)

No I didn't say "to be above average".

Even I am slightly above average. My irl appeal is decent. Of course 6-7/10s need a lot of game.

My point is Amnesia is a full-blooded Chad. He is 9/10 and arguably 10/10 and if you read his thread that he posted last in this thread about boning that 18 year old on the first day of texting via a tinder-match and the way he asked her if she'd like a massage to get rid of that sourness from all the gym work she'd been doing, then you'd see he showed a "competent" level of game.

"Went to her house, she lives in a whole house her rich parents that live in Germany bought for her. We sit on her couch in the front room and talk a bunch while watching water polo (she plays herself.) Slowly over the night watching random shit on her tv and laptop there are more moments where our legs are touching, arms crossing, etc even though she hasn't overtly told me or shown any huge IOIs. It's more of a friendly hangout feel. We open a bottle of wine and turn on a horror movie. During a scary part shes covering her face and burying it in my chest so she doesnt have to see, I tell her hey (pull her head out of my chest) "just close your eyes and kiss me."

We makeout a long time touching each other, I try to touch her pussy and she moves my hand away, I try to go under her bra and she moves my hand away. She's not mad or anything just keep rejecting my hands. We watch the movie more until we start talking in the middle of it about how her gym is still open and is so sore from working out. I offer to give her a massage and even a butt massage. She agrees and we go up to her bedroom. She lays face down on her bed and I start giving her a massage, I tell her that it's easier to do if she was just in her underwear. She takes off her pants and is only in a thong as I am rubbing her ass and legs. It was like one of those massage pornos on the blue table.

I flip her over and the look she gave me is pure want, so we start making out and from there we fuck. She cums a lot from normal sex. and over the course of the next 4 hours fuck on and off, no condom, I cum in her pussy twice, she's on the bar birth control. She says I am the best fuck she ever had. I cuddle and begin my post sex interview where I ask red pilled questions and hope girls are comfortable to give me answers"

Not only this, but after they fucked he ran her through an entire Q & A on guys. How many she's fucked, the biggest size she's had, the full-works.

Are you telling me a guy with a "bad personality" or "lack of charisma" for a better term, would be able to run-this-way? Seriously? I mean cmon.

 

[PYT]

how hard is it not to overreact and get angry, how hard is it to control ur emotions?

got me tbh

 

[Deleted member 4612]

No I didn't say "to be above average".

Even I am slightly above average. My irl appeal is decent. Of course 6-7/10s need a lot of game.

My point is Amnesia is a full-blooded Chad. He is 9/10 and arguably 10/10 and if you read his thread that he posted last in this thread about boning that 18 year old on the first day of texting via a tinder-match and the way he asked her if she'd like a massage to get rid of that sourness from all the gym work she'd been doing, then you'd see he showed a "competent" level of game.

"Went to her house, she lives in a whole house her rich parents that live in Germany bought for her. We sit on her couch in the front room and talk a bunch while watching water polo (she plays herself.) Slowly over the night watching random shit on her tv and laptop there are more moments where our legs are touching, arms crossing, etc even though she hasn't overtly told me or shown any huge IOIs. It's more of a friendly hangout feel. We open a bottle of wine and turn on a horror movie. During a scary part shes covering her face and burying it in my chest so she doesnt have to see, I tell her hey (pull her head out of my chest) "just close your eyes and kiss me."

We makeout a long time touching each other, I try to touch her pussy and she moves my hand away, I try to go under her bra and she moves my hand away. She's not mad or anything just keep rejecting my hands. We watch the movie more until we start talking in the middle of it about how her gym is still open and is so sore from working out. I offer to give her a massage and even a butt massage. She agrees and we go up to her bedroom. She lays face down on her bed and I start giving her a massage, I tell her that it's easier to do if she was just in her underwear. She takes off her pants and is only in a thong as I am rubbing her ass and legs. It was like one of those massage pornos on the blue table.

I flip her over and the look she gave me is pure want, so we start making out and from there we fuck. She cums a lot from normal sex. and over the course of the next 4 hours fuck on and off, no condom, I cum in her pussy twice, she's on the bar birth control. She says I am the best fuck she ever had. I cuddle and begin my post sex interview where I ask red pilled questions and hope girls are comfortable to give me answers"

Not only this, but after they fucked he ran her through an entire Q & A on guys. How many she's fucked, the biggest size she's had, the full-works.

Are you telling me a guy with a "bad personality" or "lack of charisma" for a better term, would be able to run-this-way? Seriously? I mean cmon.

true, i see your point

@Vvvvxxxx you are the big dick guy. your "game" to get laid is even less than amnesia's, (it appears). do you think you need game to slay these kinds of girls in the way amnesia does?

 

[Amnesia]

Not only this, but after they fucked he ran her through an entire Q & A on guys. How many she's fucked, the biggest size she's had, the full-works.

Are you telling me a guy with a "bad personality" or "lack of charisma" for a better term, would be able to run-this-way? Seriously? I mean cmon.

The counter argument would be that running thru a Q and A is autistic as hell, not typical well adjusted social behavior, annd the only way I was able to get away with it and make her feel comfortable to answer all these questions is cause I am good looking

@Enigmatic93

 

[Deleted member 6908]

To give u the TLDR of my life

I was ugly as a kid, had a model looking brother. I saw first hand he get tons of girls effortlessly, he was a mode too. I got hardly anything, he denied more hot girls that I ever kissed in my teens.

I got surgery at 20 then and ascended, but am naturally hugely introverted and am self employed, spent my 20s in isolation at home trading stocks and playing video games. Wasnt till this last 2 years I put myself out there on TInder/Bumble and got a part time job at a night club. Racked up 100 lays in the last 2 years now. I was always introverted and generally dont like ppl, was shit at socializing in groups at school and never had many friends

I've tested INTJ as well twice if that helps

In general I understand I am not NT but I also hate socializing anyway to start, so every interaction with a person just feels like me putting on an act until I have gotten the result I want out of them

Very interesting.

So your brother was naturally good looking and you were just slightly above average with a good base to work from? Until you got the nips and tucks you needed from surgery to take you to the level you needed to be.

What surgeries did you get? And do you have any before and after shots?

This is insightful and interesting buddy. Keep documenting your journey.

 

[Deleted member 5522]

The blue pill will never die will it

 

[Deleted member 4612]

There is nothing you can proactively do to get girls (besides approaching and say hi), there is no technique or nt stuff to do. If its not easy, and the girl wants you, then it will not work. You can be as nt, pushy, alpha or confident as you want. Its always your looks that does the work.

"I CAN DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GET THE MOST JUICIEST OF TIGHTEST STACEY PUSSY!!!"
This is the only legit way to get laid. You cant do anything else, besides minimal investment of saying hi

is this meant as sarcasm, or it almost seems real. i'm leaning the former

 

[Deleted member 6908]

The counter argument would be that running thru a Q and A is autistic as hell, not typical well adjusted social behavior, annd the only way I was able to get away with it and make her feel comfortable to answer all these questions is cause I am good looking

@Enigmatic93

It's only autistic if you don't have the charisma to make it seem like it's because you're a man of philosophy and like to study people.

Which is 100000% of what you did.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

The blue pill will never die will it

Red and Black pill taken together is the reality.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

The counter argument would be that running thru a Q and A is autistic as hell, not typical well adjusted social behavior, annd the only way I was able to get away with it and make her feel comfortable to answer all these questions is cause I am good looking

@Enigmatic93

plus the Q and A was after sex, so it was irrelevant to whether you got laid or not.

only the stuff preceding sex mattered anyway

 

[Deleted member 5522]

Red and Black pill taken together is the reality.

tbh

 

[Ocelot]

My pics are all over this site
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I make no denial that I am not NT. I am not like non functioning in person, I actually would like to think I am charismatic 90% of the time, it's just occasionally I slip up and say or do something very non NT

Did you have anything done for your under-eyes?

 

[Timelessbrah]

Now that I think of it, I always enjoyed a more social setting, but my ugly looks are a teenager destroyed that.
BTW you just spewed a bunch of blue pill op.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Now that I think of it, I always enjoyed a more social setting, but my ugly looks are a teenager destroyed that.
BTW you just spewed a bunch of blue pill op.

"Last edited: 43 minutes ago

He added the second line after reading through the thread of seeing one or two posters calling it "blue-pill".

This, after agreeing with me initially.

Verdict: A trying to fit-in loser.

Kindly bore-off and fuck off.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Not a problem for me since I AM a huge huge narcy

If I ever become GL then I'll just unleash this monster inside of me

 

[Swolepenisman]

Cope if you look like Brad pitt it doesn't matter

 

[Timelessbrah]

"Last edited: 43 minutes ago

He added the second line after reading through the thread of seeing one or two posters calling it "blue-pill".

This, after agreeing with me initially.

Verdict: A trying to fit-in loser.

Kindly bore-off and fuck off.

I never agreed with you LMAO.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I never agreed with you LMAO.

1. Yes you did
2. You added your little "oh this is too "blue-pill" and saying personality is worth anything to birds", comment after reading through what 1 or 2 other guys were saying in the posts.

Get a mind off your own you twit.

 

[Timelessbrah]

1. Yes you did
2. You added your little "oh this is too "blue-pill" and saying personality is worth anything to birds", comment after reading through what 1 or 2 other guys were saying in the posts.

Get a mind off your own you twit.

I said you spewed blue pills, I never said. Are you fucking braindead.

 

[Zyros]

What many users don't get here is even IF they do become borderline Chads (Chad-lites) with surgery, they will always have outcast (Non-NT) personalities and the reason for that is because as they were growing-up they were not attractive to girls and even guys didn't show them the respect.

Even if im sociable and all irl I still have a complete non NT personality (which by the way is permanent, even when I was popular as a kid before becoming an actual outcast as a teen I wasnt NT). Yet as soon as my looks got better (and not even chad) I instantly began to be respected by default.

yes your personality can evolve (I became kinda more fluent in social situations) but your base is set in stone.

Looks=everything.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

I'm going to psychopath max you need to be good looking to be a psycho

 

[Deleted member 5891]

Just because you looksmax doesn't mean your issues will just disappear like c'mon be realistic people

It will JFL
My only problem are my looks everything else like social circle, NT-Ness will follow like magic

 

[Madhate]

the better your looks the less you need a personality

 

[Vvvvxxxx]

true, i see your point

@Vvvvxxxx you are the big dick guy. your "game" to get laid is even less than amnesia's, (it appears). do you think you need game to slay these kinds of girls in the way amnesia does?

I won’t say game if you meet up with someone from online, you just need to know how to interact with people pretty much. I don’t believe game gets you any pussy that you weren’t already gonna get. However, getting pussy irl you need to be comfortable talking to the person and being social.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I won’t say game if you meet up with someone from online, you just need to know how to interact with people pretty much. I don’t believe game gets you any pussy that you weren’t already gonna get. However, getting pussy irl you need to be comfortable talking to the person and being social.

well do you take the foid out on a date before you smash if you met the foid from online? or she just comes over for the bang.

 

[Vvvvxxxx]

well do you take the foid out on a date before you smash if you met the foid from online? or she just comes over for the bang.

Nah, never. I’m cool with dates after I’ve already smashed at least once. Most times I meet them at my place or their place or car sex.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Even if im sociable and all irl I still have a complete non NT personality (which by the way is permanent, even when I was popular as a kid before becoming an actual outcast as a teen I wasnt NT). Yet as soon as my looks got better (and not even chad) I instantly began to be respected by default.

yes your personality can evolve (I became kinda more fluent in social situations) but your base is set in stone.

Looks=everything.

Valid ponts.