YOU'RE NOT UGLY. YOU'RE UNFINISHED:

[drooting]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

 

[drooting]

boost

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

i just finished all over this thread

 

[drooting]

boost

 

[HundredManSlayer]

nice gpt usage

 

[drooting]

nice gpt usage

low iqcells seeing proper punctuation for the first time

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

low iqcells seeing proper punctuation for the first time

–

those r chatgpt dashes

 

[Wexilarious]

Mouth breathing starts after wisdom teeth removal

 

[drooting]

those r chatgpt dashes

you're telling me you were never taught what a hyphen is?

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

you're telling me you were never taught what a hyphen is?

hymen

 

[drooting]

 

[drooting]

keep retardmaxxing, you were born to be a jester

 

[viz0]

water thread but mirin

 

[aids]

You're not fat; you're skinny with baggage.

 

[TheTD7]

You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

yeah bro this is definitely not GPT...

 

[drooting]

yeah bro this is definitely not GPT...

believe what you want retardcel, I couldn't care less - continue mirin my thread though

 

[TheTD7]

believe what you want retardcel, I couldn't care less - continue mirin my thread though

chatgpt can you give me a savage comeback for someone accusing me of using you but translate it into hindi

 

[drooting]

chatgpt can you give me a savage comeback for someone accusing me of using you but translate it into hindi

chatgpt, send me advice so i can help this retarded niglet escape sub5 hell

 

[TheTD7]

chatgpt, send me advice so i can help this retarded niglet escape sub5 hell

I’m going to help you with the advice, but I’m not going to repeat or use slurs. I’ll focus on what you actually want: how someone stuck in “sub‑5 hell” can improve their looks, presence, and overall impression.

Here’s the clean, effective version — no nonsense, no sugarcoating:


---

HOW TO ESCAPE “SUB‑5 HELL” (REALISTIC + ACTIONABLE)

1. Fix the Big 3 First (The 80% that matters)

These give the largest, fastest visible gains.

A) Body Fat

Goal range: 12–15%.

If someone is skinny-fat or chubby, lowering body fat alone can change their face from “sub5” to “passable.”


B) Hairstyle

A proper haircut can add a full point.

Avoid buzzcuts unless you already have elite skull shape.

Use a barber who understands face shape — round faces need more volume on top; long faces need more balanced sides.


C) Skin

Clear skin >>> facial structure.

Daily routine:

Gentle cleanser (morning + night)

2% salicylic acid (if acne)

Moisturizer

Sunscreen daily


Hydration + sleep actually matter.



---

2. Facial Structure Optimizers (Slow but real)

Mewing

Not magic but works if:

Jaw relaxed

Tongue fully on palate

Consistency > intensity


Expect improvements in 1–2 years, not weeks.


Masseter training

Use only soft mastic gum (not regular gum).

10–20 min every other day.

Helps with definition but only if body fat is low.


Posture

A straight neck and opened shoulders instantly make someone look taller and more confident.


---

3. Grooming Upgrades (Instant + Cheap)

Eyebrows

Clean, shaped eyebrows transform a face more than people admit.

Nails

Short, clean, neat.

Teeth

White strips (10–14 days)

Floss + proper brushing technique


Scent

No need for expensive perfume. One clean-smelling deodorant + lotion is enough.


---

4. Social Presence (Where most sub‑5s actually fail)

Voice

Slow down.

Speak deeper (not forced — drop to the bottom of your natural range).

Don’t talk too fast; it ruins the vibe.


Eye Contact

Train it like a muscle:

When speaking: look away sometimes.

When listening: look more.


This alone removes 90% of “insecure” energy.

Clothes

Fit > brand.

Clean shoes > expensive shoes.



---

5. The HARSH reality checks

Someone stays “sub‑5” not because of bad genetics but because:

They don’t groom.

They don’t train.

They don’t sleep.

They dress sloppy.

They move awkwardly.

They never improve social confidence.


Fixing even half of these jumps someone to 5–6 bare minimum.


---

6. Advanced options (if needed)

If someone has severe issues:

Orthodontics (braces or aligners)

Nose reshaping (fillers before surgery)

Hairline treatments (microneedling + minoxidil, if over 18)

Eyebrow threading shaping


These are optional, not mandatory.


---

If you want, tell me:

Age

Height

Bodyfat

Hairstyle

Skin situation

Any photos (if you're comfortable)


And I’ll give a custom transformation plan that targets the specific flaws keeping him sub‑5.

Just keep it clean — I’m here to help you level someone up, not roast people.

 

[drooting]

do you see the difference between ai and my threads now jester?

 

[Insufferable]

Holy shit bro, you look different as you age? That's absolutely insane man thank you for this info

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

you didn't even try to hide the fact that this is chatgpt

 

[TheTD7]

do you see the difference between ai and my threads now jester?

no
it's the same
thanks for confirming

 

[drooting]

you didn't even try to hide the fact that this is chatgpt

chatgpt, generate a roast for this fat foreheaded ugly ethiopian nigga.

"You-will-never-escape-sub5-hell"

Now go enlist in a proper school located within a first-world country.

Take english class, begin at the lowest level possible. Maybe even start ESL.

Once you leave your computer/phone alone and hang-out with smart people in the real world maybe your sped self could get somewhere in life.

 

[drooting]

Holy shit bro, you look different as you age? That's absolutely insane man thank you for this info

no problem

 

[iblamexyz]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

Actually really good thread

I was sub 5/ltn when I was 16

Of course my genetic make up and I believe things like orthotropics reshaped my face

I’m 20 now and been rated lhtn

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I’m going to help you with the advice, but I’m not going to repeat or use slurs. I’ll focus on what you actually want: how someone stuck in “sub‑5 hell” can improve their looks, presence, and overall impression.

Here’s the clean, effective version — no nonsense, no sugarcoating:


---

HOW TO ESCAPE “SUB‑5 HELL” (REALISTIC + ACTIONABLE)

1. Fix the Big 3 First (The 80% that matters)

These give the largest, fastest visible gains.

A) Body Fat

Goal range: 12–15%.

If someone is skinny-fat or chubby, lowering body fat alone can change their face from “sub5” to “passable.”


B) Hairstyle

A proper haircut can add a full point.

Avoid buzzcuts unless you already have elite skull shape.

Use a barber who understands face shape — round faces need more volume on top; long faces need more balanced sides.


C) Skin

Clear skin >>> facial structure.

Daily routine:

Gentle cleanser (morning + night)

2% salicylic acid (if acne)

Moisturizer

Sunscreen daily


Hydration + sleep actually matter.



---

2. Facial Structure Optimizers (Slow but real)

Mewing

Not magic but works if:

Jaw relaxed

Tongue fully on palate

Consistency > intensity


Expect improvements in 1–2 years, not weeks.


Masseter training

Use only soft mastic gum (not regular gum).

10–20 min every other day.

Helps with definition but only if body fat is low.


Posture

A straight neck and opened shoulders instantly make someone look taller and more confident.


---

3. Grooming Upgrades (Instant + Cheap)

Eyebrows

Clean, shaped eyebrows transform a face more than people admit.

Nails

Short, clean, neat.

Teeth

White strips (10–14 days)

Floss + proper brushing technique


Scent

No need for expensive perfume. One clean-smelling deodorant + lotion is enough.


---

4. Social Presence (Where most sub‑5s actually fail)

Voice

Slow down.

Speak deeper (not forced — drop to the bottom of your natural range).

Don’t talk too fast; it ruins the vibe.


Eye Contact

Train it like a muscle:

When speaking: look away sometimes.

When listening: look more.


This alone removes 90% of “insecure” energy.

Clothes

Fit > brand.

Clean shoes > expensive shoes.



---

5. The HARSH reality checks

Someone stays “sub‑5” not because of bad genetics but because:

They don’t groom.

They don’t train.

They don’t sleep.

They dress sloppy.

They move awkwardly.

They never improve social confidence.


Fixing even half of these jumps someone to 5–6 bare minimum.


---

6. Advanced options (if needed)

If someone has severe issues:

Orthodontics (braces or aligners)

Nose reshaping (fillers before surgery)

Hairline treatments (microneedling + minoxidil, if over 18)

Eyebrow threading shaping


These are optional, not mandatory.


---

If you want, tell me:

Age

Height

Bodyfat

Hairstyle

Skin situation

Any photos (if you're comfortable)


And I’ll give a custom transformation plan that targets the specific flaws keeping him sub‑5.

Just keep it clean — I’m here to help you level someone up, not roast people.

thanks bro i ascended before finishing reading this
















finishes me







d

 

[bandi slayer]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

Keep coping

 

[drooting]

Keep coping

joined oct 2025, your whole existence is jfl

 

[ssxjdgh]

.org needs to be split between teens and people post 21.The difference in advice is huge.

 

[bandi slayer]

joined oct 2025, your whole existence is jfl

 

[htn from the staes]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

fully chatgpt

 

[lokit]

low iqcells seeing proper punctuation for the first time

STFU NIGGER IQLET GPT USER KYS

 

[Deleted member 266885]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

Thanks for some extra fuel.

 

[shahan.ltn]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

Dnr but ppl are saying its ai

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

Men peak at 50

 

[hej1377]

Good cope

 

[zygosmasher12]

what would you say are the biggest changes that are possible in terms of facial structure once you reach the 20-25 range?

 

[niggacum492139]

Actually really good thread

I was sub 5/ltn when I was 16

Of course my genetic make up and I believe things like orthotropics reshaped my face

I’m 20 now and been rated lhtn

What did u do for orthotropics bhai

 

[Neolithic Zagrosian]

Greyslop post. Not a molecule of evidence or science, just pure cope.

 

[iblamexyz]

What did u do for orthotropics bhai

I do think mewing did save me tbh

it sounds comcial

but even my face compared to last year to now

is diffrent

 

[Acquiescence]

I peaked at 16, puberty made me a bloated cylops, and by 22 I was already visibly aging

I’m not unfinished because it’s already finished

 

[drooting]

Dnr but ppl are saying its ai

they r retards

 

[drooting]

Greyslop post. Not a molecule of evidence or science, just pure cope.

You would get it if you looked good, your incel mindset just looks at things in the worst way possible 🫩 lock in g

 

[Meatsauce]

I'm not ugly I just have wabi sabi

 

[Sean o' Tist]

thanks, chatgpt.

 

[drooting]

I'm not ugly I just have wabi sabi

 

[chrisangeler]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

I get what you're saying and I agree for the most part but there are some bad habits that if done since childhood it's js over

I have decent genes (other then height) and if I was fed well during my youth I could've been much more developed

unfortunately i'm boneless because having a bad childhood fucks you up in many ways

 

[Meatsauce]

View attachment 4421590

Second account, been since dillon leaked also youre grey

 

[Dip3shx]

Every dude on here acts like your “final form” is locked in at 15–17 and if you didn’t spawn with a perfect canthal tilt, giga-jaw and hunter eyes you’re just permanently sentenced to subhuman status. But nobody talks about how unfinished your face actually is in your teens and how much changes between like 15–25, both naturally and from basic habits if you’re not a complete NPC about it.

This is not some fairy-tale cope. Your bones, fat distribution, skin, posture, hormones and even vibe are still in a crazy transition phase in late teens and early 20s. You are literally judging yourself mid-download and calling the file corrupted.

WHY YOUR TEEN FACE ISNT YOUR FINAL FACE
• Your skull and jaw keep developing into your early 20s, especially as you gain muscle, change posture and stop being a scrawny, sleep-deprived, mouth-breathing kid.

• Facial fat distribution changes a lot: buccal fat can decrease, your face can de-puff, cheekbones and jaw start showing more once you stop living on sugar and start lifting + sleeping like a normal human.

• Hair, skin and frame are still in progress; acne can calm down, hair can get thicker with proper care, and your body proportions change as you add muscle and maybe lose the skinny-fat look.

Most of you are basically looking at your 15–18 year old self with bad hair, bad sleep, no gym, trash diet, tech-neck and acne… then concluding “my genetics are trash.” You’re not seeing your actual “genetics,” you’re seeing early-access beta with no patches installed yet.

W my nigga