Zygomatic implants success rate?

[iblamezyg0s]

Why people say it's rare to see good results for zygos implants? What makes it hard to be done proberly? Is it something with the proportions or ratios or it's just the designer?

 

[Assymetry]

I am in the process. It is rare because: Design ≠ soft tissue outcome, mostly guys around 40-50 get them (soft tissue has already sagged and they dont get a midface lift). I don't believe there are any botb threads on the ratios of anterior malar bone projection, 3/4th projection and lateral projection. You can have a perfect design, but the soft tissue might not respond how you want.

 

[iblamezyg0s]

I am in the process. It is rare because: Design ≠ soft tissue outcome, mostly guys around 40-50 get them (soft tissue has already sagged and they dont get a midface lift). I don't believe there are any botb threads on the ratios of anterior malar bone projection, 3/4th projection and lateral projection. You can have a perfect design, but the soft tissue might not respond how you want.

Appreciate the effort; I hope your procedure goes well. But what are the features of well-responding soft tissue?

I did a search, and this is what I got: A thick periodontal biotype (also called a thick phenotype) yields significantly better aesthetic and functional results for zygomatic implants than a thin biotype.

 

[Assymetry]

Appreciate the effort; I hope your procedure goes well. But what are the features of well-responding soft tissue?

I did a search, and this is what I got: A thick periodontal biotype (also called a thick phenotype) yields significantly better aesthetic and functional results for zygomatic implants than a thin biotype.

Brotha, dental implants are something completely different from custom peek implants. You need good skin collagen (aka be young, I will be 20 by the time of the procedure), little cheek fat (I have near to none genetically, losing 25kg made this even more appearant), skin needs to not be so thin you get implant show, tight malar ligaments so the soft tissue interacts nicely with the implant.

 

[LTN]

Why people say it's rare to see good results for zygos implants? What makes it hard to be done proberly? Is it something with the proportions or ratios or it's just the designer?

I think the more fundamental explanation is that people vastly overestimate the impact of zygomatic projection on actual aesthetic outcome, especially with respect to other features on their face. "Models tend to have this feature so I will look more like a model by having this feature" is flawed logic. Projected zygos get carried by the harmony of other features, otherwise they look uncanny as they appear without the respective harmonious supporting structure that would otherwise be found in nature (forward maxilla, proportional infras, etc)

 

[iblamezyg0s]

I think the more fundamental explanation is that people vastly overestimate the impact of zygomatic projection on actual aesthetic outcome, especially with respect to other features on their face. "Models tend to have this feature so I will look more like a model by having this feature" is flawed logic. Projected zygos get carried by the harmony of other features, otherwise they look uncanny as they appear without the respective harmonious supporting structure that would otherwise be found in nature (forward maxilla, proportional infras, etc)

I've thought about this, too; zygos implants on recessed bones or narrow lower third will look horrible and destroy harmony. The solution is to fix the base skeletal structure before any implants, be aware of facial proportions, and choose a surgeon who is aware of that and makes 3D custom implants; I think Dr Eppley is a good choice.

But what I can't understand is how the skin and the soft tissue gonna wrap around the implants. Will it wrap nicely and make the implants appear nicely, or is it gonna ruin it? Should the skin be elastic with good collagen content, or should it be devoid of fat and debloated?

 

[lurking truecel]

Because its hard to design for whoever you are specifically, also they often too big or too small. Making the size where it does something good is hard

 

[yussimania]

Appreciate the effort; I hope your procedure goes well. But what are the features of well-responding soft tissue?

I did a search, and this is what I got: A thick periodontal biotype (also called a thick phenotype) yields significantly better aesthetic and functional results for zygomatic implants than a thin biotype.

NGL just give up if you can't tell between a dental implant and a zygo implant

 

[Saint.]

Because its hard to design for whoever you are specifically, also they often too big or too small. Making the size where it does something good is hard

why is this though?
is it because the current software isnt good enough to predict how each individuals soft tissue will interact with the implants, or is it something else?

 

[lurking truecel]

why is this though?
is it because the current software isnt good enough to predict how each individuals soft tissue will interact with the implants, or is it something else?

a lot of diffrent reasons, but yea how tissue respond is a big one

 

[iblamezyg0s]

NGL just give up if you can't tell between a dental implant and a zygo implant

I know the types of implants, but idk why tf the ai showed results for peridontal shit while i asked about facial implants

 

[iblamezyg0s]

Because its hard to design for whoever you are specifically, also they often too big or too small. Making the size where it does something good is hard

The size is designed according to the facial proportions, and this is the easy part; the hard part is predicting how the soft tissue will respond. And I can't find an answer for what makes one tissue respond well and others not?

 

[lurking truecel]

The size is designed according to the facial proportions, and this is the easy part; the hard part is predicting how the soft tissue will respond. And I can't find an answer for what makes one tissue respond well and others not?

Accrording to facial proportion, holy grey of heavens. The hard part is where to augment and to make everything smoooth and this depends on the area and then the volume of the implant which is a correlation and has anatomical limits from person to person. The curvature of the implant is hard to get right so it goes together with your own tissue. Also soft tissue adaptation depend the thickness of your tissue or if you lack lower eyelid laxity. Asian has thicker, whites have the thinnest soft tissue which makes it harder. The rules are simple but people dont understand the basics. I could do a thread explaining but no cuck faggot on this site cares and have money either way. They rot in the basement to the end of time

 

[N0Infras]

Titanium is the best but its expensive if u have the money its worth it

 

[iblamezyg0s]

Titanium is the best but its expensive if u have the money its worth it

Why not PEEK?

 

[lurking truecel]

Why not PEEK?

Because he is a idiot, having ingrowth of a implant in such fragile area is retarded to the next level, you want to be able to remove and replace. Its to easy to get wrong design and to want to remove as it looks worse with age

 

[N0Infras]

Why not PEEK?

Idk i belive titanium bonds better to bone