there's nothing wrong with taking 5g+/daily of creatine

[holy]

unless you have pre-existing kidney problems, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

 

[fabi_magyr.incel]

Snort it

 

[averagenormie]

You don't need more than 5

 

[holy]

You don't need more than 5

I didn't say you did, but there's nothing wrong if you do.

 

[averagenormie]

I didn't say you did, but there's nothing wrong if you do.

There's no benefits of overdosing

 

[holy]

There's no benefits of overdosing

i'm not talking about "overdosing" you dense motherfucker, i'm talking about appropriately higher doses for specific populations.

there's a massive difference between "optimal dosing based on individual factors" and "overdosing".

multiple peer-reviewed studies show dose-dependent benefits for larger individuals (>200lbs) and certain athletic populations, with maintenance doses of 5-10g showing continued improvements in strength, power output, and recovery compared to standardized 5g protocols.

the scientific literature explicitly acknowledges that larger individuals often require higher doses to achieve the same intramuscular creatine concentration as smaller individuals. this is basic pharmacokinetics, not "overdosing."

 

[Deleted member 85132]

unless you have pre-existing kidney problems, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

just eat raw meat

 

[averagenormie]

i'm not talking about "overdosing" you dense motherfucker, i'm talking about appropriately higher doses for specific populations.

there's a massive difference between "optimal dosing based on individual factors" and "overdosing".

multiple peer-reviewed studies show dose-dependent benefits for larger individuals (>200lbs) and certain athletic populations, with maintenance doses of 5-10g showing continued improvements in strength, power output, and recovery compared to standardized 5g protocols.

the scientific literature explicitly acknowledges that larger individuals often require higher doses to achieve the same intramuscular creatine concentration as smaller individuals. this is basic pharmacokinetics, not "overdosing."

Creatine increases dht, dht is androgen and would mask testosterone deficiency so ofc they report such copes, don't take creatine if you care about testosterone and health

 

[holy]

Creatine increases dht, dht is androgen and would mask testosterone deficiency so ofc they report such copes, don't take creatine if you care about testosterone and health

laughably misleading and completely misrepresents the research.

the only study showing creatine's effect on dht found a minor increase that remained well within normal physiological ranges.

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no, this isn't "masking deficiency". it's a normal biological response.

what's more, the study showed no decrease in testosterone. just a modest increase in dht conversion. testosterone levels remained completely stable.

the clinical significance of this minor dht increase is negligible, with ZERO evidence of negative health impacts.
meanwhile, creatine has over 500+ studies showing safety and performance benefits.

the scientific consensus from multiple reviews explicitly confirms creatine has no negative impact on hormonal health.
in fact, strength training itself causes larger hormonal fluctuations than creatine supplementation.

you're basically fearmongering about one of the most thoroughly researched and proven-safe supplements in existence based on a fundamental misunderstanding of a single study.

you don't understand basic endocrinology.

 

[averagenormie]

laughably misleading and completely misrepresents the research.

the only study showing creatine's effect on dht found a minor increase that remained well within normal physiological ranges.

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no, this isn't "masking deficiency". it's a normal biological response.

what's more, the study showed no decrease in testosterone. just a modest increase in dht conversion. testosterone levels remained completely stable.

the clinical significance of this minor dht increase is negligible, with ZERO evidence of negative health impacts.
meanwhile, creatine has over 500+ studies showing safety and performance benefits.

the scientific consensus from multiple reviews explicitly confirms creatine has no negative impact on hormonal health.
in fact, strength training itself causes larger hormonal fluctuations than creatine supplementation.

you're basically fearmongering about one of the most thoroughly researched and proven-safe supplements in existence based on a fundamental misunderstanding of a single study.

you don't understand basic endocrinology.

Holy Cope ofc converting 10% of test to dht won't affect test alot if you're high t but to those with low t it is affecting them and also dht is more potent at Accelrating and causing androgenic side effects: hairloss, prostate ennlargement and acne

56% after 7 days nobody wants that, dht is fucking poison and stayed 22% higher after maintaining the dose

Creatine only holds water, doesn't build muscles, dht has no fucking role in adults


Tldr: Creatine is useless

 

[blameGMOs]

as long as you drink enough water and don't take a fucking ton of creatine you should be fine with over 5 grams, but it's really useless to supplement with over 5 grams