NegativeNorwood
Zephir
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2021
- Posts
- 1,988
- Reputation
- 4,069
- OP
- #151
Fuark
Appreciate the high quality reply mate.
Why self-ligating braces? What are your views on Damon braces on even Invisalign?
You're welcome!
Self ligating braces mog Invisalign hard because they give the orthodontist much more control, can also be 3d planned and move teeth more efficiently. Here's a study comparing Invisalign and self ligating braces, the group with self ligating braces had greater intercanine width increase (3.15mm vs 0.5mm of Invisalign):
Invisalign is 2x the price of self ligating braces btw.
Is this what you mean when you say the smiles are "full" and wide, not just flat and wide?
Exactly! That's the main difference.
What are the Power expander prices like?
Power Expander - 3D by OrthoLab
3d.ortholab.es
Besides this main page, couldnt find much published info by Dr. Varela, does he only operate in Spain?
I'm a bit worried about the lower jaw, maybe at my age slowed expansion would allow the mandible to widen.
MSDO is invasive, gives a u-shaped jaw due to its expansion method and cuts and would take even more time
IMDO is nice but doesn't deal too much with the posterior jaw and seems more forward growth (mandible) oriented.
I don't know if orthodontics and tooth tipping would be enough for 12-18mm+ expansion , that i'd like to undergo
If you get a MARPE, then yes it should be more effective AFAIK.
I remember reading on Giant Implants' old IG page (yes, seriously) that the price was around 1000$ for the manufactured, custom made power expander alone. Can't confirm this tbh but it shouldn't be very expensive.
IIRC Varela does not operate, he's an ortho. AFAIK you can get the Power Expander custom made by Ortholab so your maxfac can use it.
IMDO only is a good option if you are a teen and have a recessed jaw. If you don't have a recessed jaw, you may need MSDO if you expand the upper jaw a lot to match it.
Definitely those are questions for a maxfac/blackpilled ortho tbh, my knowledge is limited to what I could gather here lurking and asking questions to high IQ users.