14 yo – 173 cm / 60 kg – slow puberty-maxxing stack (Test + HGH + MK) – rate + advice(SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY)

[exyonf]

Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4

• Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
• MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
• Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8

• Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
• MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16

• Test E 250–300 mg/week
• MK-677 20–25 mg/night
• HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)

• Test E 250–300 mg/week
• MK-677 20–25 mg
• HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
• Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)

Lifestyle

• PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
• 9–10 hours sleep
• 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
• Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
• MARPE this year while on HGH
• Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
• How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
• Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
• MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?

 

[xSenii]

omg another 14 yo

 

[TheTD7]

keeping estrogen higher longer for plates)

wtf am i reading

 

[gio729]

 

[neuf]

keeping estrogen higher longer for plates

???

 

[rotation]

we all know you will not run shit, firstly

and what is the reasoning for starting at 150mg/week for a month?

it doesn't seem necessary to me to keep it that low

apart from that the testosterone dosage seems low but fine

2iu hGH is just inexpedient and is far too low, in my opinion

AFAIK 6-8ius is the sweet spot

and yes, you need a low-ish dosage aromatese inhibitor

 

[neuf]

100% bullshit + looks like chatgpt

 

[exyonf]

wtf am i reading

omg grok misswrote that shit bro

 

[exyonf]

100% bullshit + looks like chatgpt

i made the text with grok ,stack myself and how i will use it

 

[neuf]

i made the text with grok ,stack myself and how i will use it

You spent a gallon of water to format bullshit, nice

 

[exyonf]

we all know you will not run shit, firstly

and what is the reasoning for starting at 150mg/week for a month?

it doesn't seem necessary to me to keep it that low

apart from that the testosterone dosage seems low but fine

2iu hGH is just inexpedient and is far too low, in my opinion

AFAIK 6-8ius is the sweet spot

and yes, you need a low-ish dosage aromatese inhibitor

2IU at the start for me to adapt and not fuck my growth plates up

 

[exyonf]

???

grok wrote it wrongly i meant to say keep estrogen lower

 

[gio729]

2IU at the start for me to adapt and not fuck my growth plates up

 

[exyonf]

Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4

• Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
• MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
• Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8

• Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
• MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night
• HGH 0 IU still (keeping estrogen higher longer for plates)

Weeks 9–16

• Test E 250–300 mg/week
• MK-677 20–25 mg/night
• HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)

• Test E 250–300 mg/week
• MK-677 20–25 mg
• HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
• Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)

Lifestyle

• PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
• 9–10 hours sleep
• 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
• Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
• MARPE this year while on HGH

• Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
• How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
• Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
• MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?

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