14 yo – 173 cm / 60 kg – slow puberty-maxxing stack (Test + HGH + MK) – rate + advice(SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY)

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Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
 
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we all know you will not run shit, firstly

and what is the reasoning for starting at 150mg/week for a month?

it doesn't seem necessary to me to keep it that low

apart from that the testosterone dosage seems low but fine

2iu hGH is just inexpedient and is far too low, in my opinion

AFAIK 6-8ius is the sweet spot

and yes, you need a low-ish dosage aromatese inhibitor
 
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100% bullshit + looks like chatgpt
 
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we all know you will not run shit, firstly

and what is the reasoning for starting at 150mg/week for a month?

it doesn't seem necessary to me to keep it that low

apart from that the testosterone dosage seems low but fine

2iu hGH is just inexpedient and is far too low, in my opinion

AFAIK 6-8ius is the sweet spot

and yes, you need a low-ish dosage aromatese inhibitor
2IU at the start for me to adapt and not fuck my growth plates up
 
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night
  • HGH 0 IU still (keeping estrogen higher longer for plates)

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
imma just rope nga
 
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
nigger, if u want ur puberty to last, dont pin. btw the most God forsaken shit u have said was “5000-6000 clean calories”, u prolly barely can even eat 4000 without puking it back up retard
 
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Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
WRAP IT THE FUCK UP BUDDY. There is literally no such thing as heightmaxxing, if your parents are short, it's practically joever, and if you hit puberty early it's giga over. MARPE IS NOT fixing maxillary recession, it's lefort 2 or death.
 
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nigga why would you start test first with no ai, also hormones wont give you forward growth maybe 6000 clean calories will tho
 
WRAP IT THE FUCK UP BUDDY. There is literally no such thing as heightmaxxing, if your parents are short, it's practically joever, and if you hit puberty early it's giga over. MARPE IS NOT fixing maxillary recession, it's lefort 2 or death.
i was meant to be 173 cm at most, luckily i somehow am 183 now. no pinning, no retardation, straight up js lucky
 
lucky you, but at what age were you 173cm
i have a 160 cm tall mom and a 158 cm tall dad. after going through a bunch of stupid tests my doctor told i was going to be 173 at most at 16. I took 2 months of hgh (does nothing in reality) and am 183 now
 
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
Holy cope bro. You’re 14 stop lapping and hit puberty first. How do you think you’re going to afford all that at 14
 
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
doesnt berberine lower the effectiveness of mk which is already a pretty ineffective drug
 
"Only if e2 >70+"

Holy shit what are you even talking about. Growthplates close with way lower e2, like wtf?

Go leave this forum and keep your 70pg/ml e2 Levels. :lul:
 
i was meant to be 173 cm at most, luckily i somehow am 183 now. no pinning, no retardation, straight up js luck
ur genetics did u wonders then



Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
also retard.
 
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
i mean sure but its not like ur gonna do it anyways jfl
 
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
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Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
Buddy ts is nice but i dont think ur gonna run it anyway. Doses too low. Use 8iu gh dood and 500 mg test e/p
Apart from that it looks good but dont neglect aromasin
 
Buddy ts is nice but i dont think ur gonna run it anyway. Doses too low. Use 8iu gh dood and 500 mg test e/p
Apart from that it looks good but dont neglect aromasin
i just did a new stack in my threads you can see it. Can you say something about it what to do you think?
 
Возраст: 14 лет. Рост сейчас: 173 см. Вес: 60 кг. Цель: рост 190–195 см, вес 100–120 кг, рельефное тело, идеальное лицо (с выраженными вперед чертами) к 19–20 годам.
Лицо: Впалая верхняя челюсть (в ближайшее время планируется проведение КТ с конусно-лучевой реконструкцией для MARPE).
Цель: рост 190–195+ см, вес 100–120 кг (рельефное телосложение), верхняя челюсть (верхняя челюсть) должна быть выдвинута вперед к 19–20 годам. Начинайте прямо сейчас, пока пластины открыты.
План постепенного наращивания объемов производства (без резкого увеличения мощности во избежание закрытия предприятия):
Недели 1–4
  • Тестостерон энантат 150 мг/неделю (75 мг в понедельник + 75 мг в четверг)
  • МК-677 10 мг/ночь натощак
  • Всё остальное: берберин 1500 мг/день, Аккутан 20 мг, миноксидил перорально 2,5 мг, полный витаминный комплекс (D3 10k + K2, магний, цинк, таурин 3 г, рыбий жир 4 г, NAC 1200 мг).

Недели 5–8
  • Тестостерон энантат ↑ 200–250 мг/неделю
  • МК-677 ↑ 20 мг/ночь

Недели 9–16
  • Тестостерон энантат 250–300 мг/неделю
  • МК-677 20–25 мг/ночь
  • Гормон роста (HGH) для начала лечения: 2 МЕ/ночь (фармацевтический препарат)

С 17-й недели (до 18–19 лет)
  • Тестостерон энантат 250–300 мг/неделю
  • МК-677 20–25 мг
  • Прием гормона роста постепенно увеличивается на 0,5–1 МЕ каждые 2–3 недели → максимум 5–6 МЕ/ночь (никогда не 8 МЕ, не хочу рисковать).
  • Аримидекс следует применять ТОЛЬКО при показателе эстрадиола (E2) >70 пг/мл → 0,25 мг 1–2 раза в неделю максимум (ожидайте практически нулевого уровня ингибитора ароматазы в возрасте 14–15 лет).
Образ жизни
  • PPL 6 раз в неделю, 8–12 повторений
  • 9–10 часов сна
  • 5000–6000 чистых калорий (много красного мяса, яиц, риса)
  • Базовый анализ крови + каждые 12 недель (тест на холестерин, свободный тестостерон, чувствительность к эстрадиолу, ИФР-1, глюкоза натощак, липиды, общий анализ крови).
  • В этом году я принимал гормон роста (MARPE).
  • Есть ли среди 14–16-летних, кто начал с точно такой же низкой скоростью (сначала тестостерон + МК, только гормон роста с 9-й недели, максимум 5–6 МЕ) и достиг роста 190+ см? Итоговый рост по сравнению с прогнозируемым?
  • Насколько увеличился рост вперед при применении 4–6 МЕ гормона роста в возрасте 14–15 лет (верхняя челюсть, надбровный дуга, верхняя челюсть)?
  • Вам потребовались какие-либо ингибиторы ароматазы в возрасте 14–15 лет при приеме 250–300 мг тестостерона + МК?
  • Опыт применения MARPE в сочетании с низкими дозами гормона роста? На сколько мм вперед?
ПWait at least until 16, idiot.
 
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Get rid of the mk
 
perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla
not happening unless you get lefort 2
IMG 0978



Height now: 173 cm
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall

  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
not happening nigga
and you’re not getting any results under 7.5IU


  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night
long term MK-677 is going to even lower your igf levels


  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
HIIT works better for test than 8-12 reps

Reading shit makes me want to cry
 
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Reactions: Zagro
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
IMG 0580
 
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Reactions: dancepilled
Age: 14 Height now: 173 cm Weight: 60 kg Goal: 190–195 cm + 100–120 kg ripped + perfect forward-grown face by 19–20
Face: Recessed maxilla (planning CBCT for MARPE soon)
Goal: 190–195+ cm tall, 100–120 kg ripped, forward-grown maxilla/jaw by 19–20. Starting now while plates are open.
Slow ramp-up plan (no full blast to avoid closure cope):
Weeks 1–4
  • Test E 150 mg/week (75 mg Mon + 75 mg Thu)
  • MK-677 10 mg/night fasted
  • Everything else: berberine 1500 mg/day, Accutane 20 mg, oral minox 2.5 mg , full vitamin stack (D3 10k + K2, mag, zinc, taurine 3 g, fish oil 4 g, NAC 1200 mg)

Weeks 5–8
  • Test E ↑ 200–250 mg/week
  • MK-677 ↑ 20 mg/night

Weeks 9–16
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg/night
  • HGH start 2 IU/night (pharma)

Week 17+ (until age 18–19)
  • Test E 250–300 mg/week
  • MK-677 20–25 mg
  • HGH slowly ramp 0.5–1 IU every 2–3 weeks → max 5–6 IU/night (never 8 IU not going to risk it)
  • Arimidex ONLY if bloods show E2 >70 pg/mL → 0.25 mg 1–2× week max (expect almost zero AI at 14–15)
Lifestyle
  • PPL 6× week, 8–12 reps
  • 9–10 hours sleep
  • 5000–6000 clean calories (tons of red meat, eggs, rice)
  • Blood work baseline + every 12 weeks (Test, Free T, E2 sensitive, IGF-1, fasting glucose, lipids, CBC)
  • MARPE this year while on HGH
  • Any 14–16 yo who started exactly this slow (Test + MK first, HGH only from week 9, max 5–6 IU) and hit 190+ cm? Final height vs predicted?
  • How much forward growth did you get on 4–6 IU HGH at 14–15 (maxilla, brow ridge, jaw)?
  • Did you need any AI at 14–15 on 250–300 mg Test + MK?
  • MARPE + low-dose HGH experiences? How many mm forward?
Ok
 
No you are just fucking influenced by some retards just stay healthy and move on in life stop thinking wbout random bs
This shit was in november bro wtf man. This stack is so retarded, everytime I see it want to kms
 

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