15y | Roid, Peptide and Supplement Stack

[Jonas2k7]

Damn someone just said the exact opposite now im kinda confused

Anyone telling you that you should focus on a lower androgenic load misses the purpose of the cycle: maximizing bone gains.

Tren will fucking make your bones grow, especially your mandible because of the increased importancy of the AR mediated pathway

Its literally sabotage to tell you not to use tren

 

[Zagro]

Wtf you need to use the tren or you are giving up on your potential bone gains

I wish I could go back in time and do it ngl, you are wasting your potential but idc do what you want

So 350mg tren is what you recommend? Im already near the end of puberty would it even help at that point or only at the beginning?

 

[2marc1]

I have everything ready i doubled checked them and this seems like a decent stack. I would appreciate it if y’all could rate it and give advice if needed, keep in mind that this is not solely for physique but more of a “pubertymaxxing” stack as what others would call it.

I’m thankful and sorry to the people who warned me to not do shit like this but i will do it either way, not that im stubborn or anything but this will help me mentally aswell.

Some people told me to not take pct but some did the bodybuilding forums are confusing aswell on this topic but from the ones i’ve seen they do use pct.

Are there any extra things i could use for safety i maybe will use ezetimibe when i find a source where i live, btw importing roids is illegal where i live ( The Netherlands ) so is it a problem if i buy from like eu.

Hgh 7 iu ed
Tren A 30mg ed
Test E 2x250mg weekly
Aromasin 10mg eod
Anavar 20mg ed for 8 weeks
Accutane 20mg 3x weekly
HCG 2x250iu weekly | last few weeks 2x500 iu weekly

Cod Liver Oil 1g
Magnesium 300mg
Vitamind D 10000iu
Vitamin K 200mcg
Boron 6mg
TUDCA 500mg
NAC 1800mg
MSM 3g
Citrus Bergamot 1.5g

Tagging knowledgeable people:
@TitusA
@chadisbeingmade
@halloweed
@Angutoid
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

more ai you will get gyno

 

[Zagro]

more ai you will get gyno

I plan to use 12.5mg ed or eod now i think thats enough.

 

[Jonas2k7]

So 350mg tren is what you recommend? Im already near the end of puberty would it even help at that point or only at the beginning?

It will, just trust the process. You could surpass your genes making you potentially a new generation mogger tbh

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

Good, but don’t take anavar (bone ager), Tren is a bone ager too but to a lesser extent since it has flexible doses, your tren dose frequency should be EOD not ED since it’s half life is 48h, 50-75mg EOD is good, 50mg is what I am using. Add T3 also, Tren messes up thyroid function, unknown whether it depletes T3 by directly affecting it or just the conversion of T4 to T3, so I opt to dose 25mcg of T3 everyday, this is important since your cell turnover/growth or whatever will be “slowed down” due to depleted thyroid on Tren.

If you can then add insulin with the GH, it will supercharge that shit, but learn about the dosage and carbs that you have to eat after before you use insulin. Split the HGH into 2 injections morning and night, for now just eat multiple tablespoons of sugar (5) for a insulin release effect like 10-20min after injection, make sure you have amino acids in your bloodstream 40min before you inject (Drink whey protein)

Hey on 500 test 400 tren
I can't find t3 in my pharmacy
Is 100mcg t4 good and in may add selenium for convertion to t3
Can I take more t4 or it will shut the thyroid I don't want to mess with my thyroid but if it will shutdown I will take more to boost growth
And how should I stop I will take the tren for 15 weeks prob

 

[Newday*V3]

Hey on 500 test 400 tren
I can't find t3 in my pharmacy
Is 100mcg t4 good and in may add selenium for convertion to t3
Can I take more t4 or it will shut the thyroid I don't want to mess with my thyroid but if it will shutdown I will take more to boost growth
And how should I stop I will take the tren for 15 weeks prob

As I said I don’t know if Tren depletes thyroid from stopping T4 to T3 conversion or just shitting on T3, probably inhibits it’s conversion so T4 wouldn’t be a safe bet

Get T3 online it’s not that hard, shutting down your thyroid also isn’t a problem, it can actually be good for it, BrahminBoss was an avid T3 taker

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

As I said I don’t know if Tren depletes thyroid from stopping T4 to T3 conversion or just shitting on T3, probably inhibits it’s conversion so T4 wouldn’t be a safe bet

Get T3 online it’s not that hard, shutting down your thyroid also isn’t a problem, it can actually be good for it, BrahminBoss was an avid T3 taker

It's way more expensive ok
Will more help with height or it will shut my thyroid

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

I plan to use 12.5mg ed or eod now i think thats enough.

Blast tren I will take 400mg a week don't be scared

 

[Zagro]

Blast tren I will take 400mg a week don't be scared

I’m not scared bhai your comparing tren to orals and its damage on the liver, orals are known for their damage on the liver no?

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

I’m not scared bhai your comparing tren to orals and its damage on the liver, orals are known for their damage on the liver no?

Yes
Tren is the most toxic ok heart and kidneys
No kidney protection
But for heart u can take omega 3 and do cardio and drink water for kidney
And BP take beta blockers when needed and aspirin and donate blood

 

[Zagro]

Yes
Tren is the most toxic ok heart and kidneys
No kidney protection
But for heart u can take omega 3 and do cardio and drink water for kidney
And BP take beta blockers when needed and aspirin and donate blood

How old are you btw

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

How old are you btw

16 bone age 16 I will start in 4 months I will work in summer

 

[Zagro]

16 bone age 16 I will start in 4 months I will work in summer

Im planning to take tren later anyway so like mid summer maybe, same working in the summer would give me the money for all my future stacks for like a year.

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

How old are you btw

My only concern is will 400mg tren accelerate bone age much if my e2 is 10

I will do 400mg tren for 10 weeks
Then 200 mg for 5 weeks
Or should I make it 200mg for 15 weeks

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

Im planning to take tren later anyway so like mid summer maybe, same working in the summer would give me the money for all my future stacks for like a year.

Yes same
500 test 400 tren
Letro
Caber low dose
Mk 677
Omega 3 calcuim aspirin beta blockers and liver protection


Test for 14 months
Tren+mk for 15 weeks total
Letro till 20

Omega 3 while on tren only
Aspirin the whole cycle

I will pct after with clomid+hcg
Donate blood every 4months

 

[Zagro]

My only concern is will 400mg tren accelerate bone age much if my e2 is 10

I will do 400mg tren for 10 weeks
Then 200 mg for 5 weeks
Or should I make it 200mg for 15 weeks

Tren will bone age you for sure but im not sure how its effect will be at 10 e2.

I don’t want to recommend you a dose but others will recommend 200mg for 15 weeks probably, but the first one ofc will be harsher and more effective.

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

Tren will bone age you for sure but im not sure how its effect will be at 10 e2.

I don’t want to recommend you a dose but others will recommend 200mg for 15 weeks probably, but the first one ofc will be harsher and more effective.

What will u do Abt tren how much u gonna run

 

[Zagro]

What will u do Abt tren how much u gonna run

I was planning 200mg but that was for now, maybe later on i will change to a higher dose.

 

[edodalic29]

Good , now add ghk cu so you dont age your skin in the process

 

[Zagro]

Good , now add ghk cu so you dont age your skin in the process

I will use topical ghk-cu will that be good aswell? I want to squeeze out every igf-1 as ghk-cu lowers it minimally.

 

[edodalic29]

I will use topical ghk-cu will that be good aswell? I want to squeeze out every igf-1 as ghk-cu lowers it minimally.

Injectable always better brother but you can try topical if u microneedle ig , also will look into the igf comment , i talked to a user about this and he told me to not worry about anything

 

[Zagro]

Injectable always better brother but you can try topical if u microneedle ig , also will look into the igf comment , i talked to a user about this and he told me to not worry about anything

I saw a thread on it lowering igf-1 and he backed it up with a pubmed study aswell I’ll see if i can find it.

 

[LilJojo]

Larry wheels takes 20x this stack man but i understand your concern.

He may have taken this stack when competing but otherwise he uses less stuff.
Either way a 15 year old will destroy his life with this. You can’t take a bodybuilder dose at that age.

 

[I_blame_height]

Damn someone just said the exact opposite now im kinda confused

your 15 bro chill on the tren for now ur gonna fuck urself

 

[Zagro]

your 15 bro chill on the tren for now ur gonna fuck urself

Yeah i will probably do that this summer but not now.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Alright will change it a little bit according to what you’ve said man thanks.

Why would you change it according to what he said, your body responds differently, do blood work to see where you stand and where you want to stand lol

 

[Zagro]

Why would you change it according to what he said, your body responds differently, do blood work to see where you stand and where you want to stand lol

Because this is my first stack and he’s more experienced, theres no way of me getting blood work maybe if i beg my gp.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Because this is my first stack and he’s more experienced, theres no way of me getting blood work maybe if i beg my gp.

What? Just go to lab and pay them 5$ for a blood work lol

 

[Zagro]

What? Just go to lab and pay them 5$ for a blood work lol

How is it 5$ for you man? For me i need a doctor to accept it or sum and then i can and the ones don't require a doctor i need to be 18+, and for me it is also 100€+

 

[yuuwaku]

infertile and bald head stack

 

[Iblamehyo]

Great stack tbf

 

[Zagro]

infertile and bald head stack

Aight man do you eat raw meat and do maasai jumps? Seems like it by your profile ngl

 

[Evgeniy291]

How is it 5$ for you man? For me i need a doctor to accept it or sum and then i can and the ones don't require a doctor i need to be 18+, and for me it is also 100€+

Where are u from lol

 

[Zagro]

Where are u from lol

The Netherlands

 

[Evgeniy291]

The Netherlands

Too bad boyo, I got test + e2 for 8$ in Russia

 

[powerliftercoco]

Too bad boyo, I got test + e2 for 8$ in Russia

Are you starting test now? Or planning to do it after your Anavar cycle hahaha I got lost or you changed your mind too quick

Edit: I'm retarded just read everything LMAO you were talking about bloodwork

 

[Evgeniy291]

Are you starting test now? Or planning to do it after your Anavar cycle hahaha I got lost or you changed your mind too quick

Edit: I'm retarded just read everything LMAO you were talking about bloodwork

If ur talking about seized package I was going to do test + var at the start but since package with var got seized I decided to do only test

 

[powerliftercoco]

If ur talking about seized package I was going to do test + var at the start but since package with var got seized I decided to do only test

Oh shit hahaha, how many mg per week are you on?

I'm planning on staying on a low dose for a longer period of time, so around 250mg for 5-6 months

 

[Evgeniy291]

Oh shit hahaha, how many mg per week are you on?

I'm planning on staying on a low dose for a longer period of time, so around 250mg for 5-6 months

500mg first first pin 5d ago how old ru

 

[powerliftercoco]

500mg first first pin 5d ago how old ru

22

Are you only pinning once a week?

Frequent pins are best for keeping testosterone levels more stable. From what I've seen daily pins are the best for keeping estrogen in range to avoid using an AI, for avoiding acne and for preventing hair loss

 

[Evgeniy291]

22

Are you only pinning once a week?

twice obv

 

[powerliftercoco]

twice obv

I would increase the frequency honestly, I edited my last message check it out again.

Keep updating on how it goes for your hair, maybe you have to up your Finasteride dose or switch to Dut.

Good luck G

 

[Evgeniy291]

I would increase the frequency honestly, I edited my last message check it out again.

Keep updating on how it goes for your hair, maybe you have to up your Finasteride dose or switch to Dut.

Good luck G

Yeah I would do that but I only got 250mg vials so not possible

Haven't started with fin yet, waiting for my scales to measure 1mg

 

[powerliftercoco]

Yeah I would do that but I only got 250mg vials so not possible

Haven't started with fin yet, waiting for my scales to measure 1mg

What do you mean, why not?

You can pin 125, and then store the rest. Or if it's a glass ampoule then pin 125 and preload another syringe and keep it until next injection day.

That way you can pin more frequently.

 

[Debetro]

"sorry to the people who warned me to not do shit like this but i will do it either way" , you will very likely regret this in 20 years.

It's not deep if done correctly

 

[tempelcat4]

I have everything ready i doubled checked them and this seems like a decent stack. I would appreciate it if y’all could rate it and give advice if needed, keep in mind that this is not solely for physique but more of a “pubertymaxxing” stack as what others would call it.

I’m thankful and sorry to the people who warned me to not do shit like this but i will do it either way, not that im stubborn or anything but this will help me mentally aswell.

Some people told me to not take pct but some did the bodybuilding forums are confusing aswell on this topic but from the ones i’ve seen they do use pct.

Are there any extra things i could use for safety i maybe will use ezetimibe when i find a source where i live, btw importing roids is illegal where i live ( The Netherlands ) so is it a problem if i buy from like eu.

Hgh 7 iu ed
Tren A 30mg ed
Test E 2x250mg weekly
Aromasin 10mg eod
Anavar 20mg ed for 8 weeks
Accutane 20mg 3x weekly
HCG 2x250iu weekly | last few weeks 2x500 iu weekly

Cod Liver Oil 1g
Magnesium 300mg
Vitamind D 10000iu
Vitamin K 200mcg
Boron 6mg
TUDCA 500mg
NAC 1800mg
MSM 3g
Citrus Bergamot 1.5g

Tagging knowledgeable people:
@TitusA
@chadisbeingmade
@halloweed
@Angutoid
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

I’d go with 6IU of HGH; you’ll probably need a higher dose of Aromasin and should take it daily.

Most supplements are just cope anyway, but you might want to add calcium and zinc.

If you’re running this stack (which is very effective and will deliver results), make sure you’ve mastered the basics. You might think, “Yeah, I already know all that,” but are you actually doing it? Prioritize high-quality sleep, this means going to bed fucking EARLY. Get into a solid calorie surplus, ideally gaining 1-3kg per month. It doesn’t matter exactly what you eat right now; the goal is to build a strong foundation. Bulk up properly, you’ll thank yourself when you’re 20.

Much luck you have all you need, but hormones are nothing without proper lifestyle, this is true no matter what you may hear on this forum, so really invest time into this.

 

[nik.077]

It's not deep if done correctly

but not with tren test and anavar

 

[Debetro]

but not with tren test and anavar

I didn't notice the tren

 

[Zagro]

I didn't notice the tren

I got rid of the tren.