18 Year Old MTN: A Guide to My Ascension Plan

Wild to think that you believe that you’re MTN while I’m rated Chadelite - Chad (HTN by users that hate me), and I honestly think you’re bare minimum just below my level.
You’re currently low chadelite imo, and after all this you might get to medium chadelite.
If you MT2maxxed and got thickers brows plus spent a few hundred on fillers, you’d be a genuine high chadelite capped at that due to your height.
 
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Wild to think that you believe that you’re MTN while I’m rated Chadelite - Chad (HTN by users that hate me), and I honestly think you’re bare minimum just below my level.
You’re currently low chadelite imo, and after all this you might get to medium chadelite.
If you MT2maxxed and got thickers brows plus spent a few hundred on fillers, you’d be a genuine high chadelite capped at that due to your height.
appreciate it man. do you know if arvid was on MT2? is that how he got so tan?
 
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You are weakish HTN already tbh and what are you aiming for ? Chadlite?

Train arms and shoulders. They’re really lagging behind compared to your chest.
 
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You are weakish HTN already tbh and what are you aiming for ? Chadlite?

Train arms and shoulders. They’re really lagging behind compared to your chest.
really hoping for like high htn. and yeah i’ve been killing my shoulders/arms every workout hopefully i see some results soon
 
I see a lot of cope though

"Tilted sphenoid" - bullshit
Bonesmashing - bullshit
Masseter hypertrophy - bullshit
Supplements - bullshit
Vollufiline - bullshit

And way too much overcomplication

Just go to the gym and eat well nigga
This is completely wrong, a lefort is not the only thing that works and you should know that.
 
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appreciate it man. do you know if arvid was on MT2? is that how he got so tan?
Nah he’s just naturally gifted with perfect colouring.
My biggest SMV boost has been the tan (tan is everything in Aus)
 
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Over for ADHDcels… I have it too but somehow managed to read all of it, these threads are what revive the looksmax sub section
I don't have it. I was just going to play some resident evil 4
 
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Already looks better than 95% of this forum
 
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final bump before i sleep
 
HTN in anglo countries
Chad everywhere else
Kys chad! Chads.org at it again
 
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My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
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Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS


good shit
 
the SARM wouldn’t but the thing stunting the growth. it would the enclo that raises my test back up quicker. will probably try not using the enclo this cycle just in case
Just take rad bro
 
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Imagine fucking up your height potential at age 18 by suppressing your Test levels from SARMs just for a lil bit of muscle. Reasons why you shouldn't mess with compounds at your age:
  • You're potentially not done growing and every adult will give up muscle for height

  • You haven't even reached your natural lifting potential yet which means packing on muscle naturally will still be easy

  • The net benefit from taking compounds isn't actually worth the cycle. Yes, you put on 5kg of weight over 2 months, which likely equates to about 3kg of muscle in total. But you will then go the next 2 months post-cycle not putting on any muscle since your test level is crashed, Meaning you put on 0.75kg of muscle per month over 4 months. Instead, you could have just put on 0.5kg of muscle per month over those 4 months naturally since your T-level would have been optimised for all those 4 months.
So you potentially lost a few cm in height because of 1kg of muscle. (Which you might not have even held onto due to the Low-T)

But since you're already a few weeks into your cycle, you might wanna stack enclo ASAP to prevent your T-level from dipping (Or at least to not dip as much)

Then simply run enclo for an additional few weeks post-cycle and get bloods done to ensure that your T-levels are back to normal. (While also monitoring Estradiol levels periodically throughout the cycle)

A better strategy for you would have been to simply optimised your lifestyle to optimise T-level (sleep, nutrition & exercise, which you already have) while also taking Ashwagandha for a natural 100-200 point T-boost.
 
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not tryna lose my hair bro

Blud thinks he can outsmart balding JFL

You're still at risk of losing hair from your current Osta SARM.

Along with DHT conversion, hair is also lost due to 'Telogen Effluvium' (hormonal fluctuations.)
  • Week 1 (Start of Cycle): Normal natural T-level
  • Week 6 (Mid Cycle): Low T-level
  • Week 12 (End of Cycle): T-Level really low or crashed
  • Week 16 (4 Weeks into PCT): T-level Recovering
  • Week 20+: T-level Recovered (Possible high estro from the Enclo)

That's the shit that makes you loose hair
 
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Blud thinks he can outsmart balding JFL

You're still at risk of losing hair from your current Osta SARM.

Along with DHT conversion, hair is also lost due to 'Telogen Effluvium' (hormonal fluctuations.)
  • Week 1 (Start of Cycle): Normal natural T-level
  • Week 6 (Mid Cycle): Low T-level
  • Week 12 (End of Cycle): T-Level really low or crashed
  • Week 16 (4 Weeks into PCT): T-level Recovering
  • Week 20+: T-level Recovered (Possible high estro from the Enclo)

That's the shit that makes you loose hair
my t level barely fluctuates jfl. osta isn’t a very powerful sarm and i start taking enclo 2 weeks into the cycle
 
my t level barely fluctuates jfl. osta isn’t a very powerful sarm and i start taking enclo 2 weeks into the cycle

Post your blood pre, during and post cycle numbers from your last cycle

The full hormonal profile, not just t-levels
 
I thought you were from 2004
 
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not tryna lose my hair bro
You won’t dumbass, if you’re so worried just take fin or use ru and minox 10%. It’s not even guaranteed that you’ll lose your hair on roids either.
 
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You won’t dumbass, if you’re so worried just take fin or use ru and minox 10%. It’s not even guaranteed that you’ll lose your hair on roids either.
yeah i’ll prob try rad next cycle
 
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mtn my ass
chadlite at worst.
chad if tall.
 
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you mog black gymmax btw.
 
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If this is a MTN, it's over for me
 
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Btw u have nuetral tilt and you seem like ur gonna grow into chad.
 
My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
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Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS


mirin
 
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Shit thread, nothing news. Just mental masturbation of already posted knowledge
 
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Shit thread, nothing news. Just mental masturbation of already posted knowledge
no shit goof ball. that’s why it’s “my” ascension plan. this post was mainly for me to look back on and for greycels that don’t know where to start. but apparently people liked it since the mods pinned it and it got 20+ likes
 
I only read some sections but here is some extra tips from what I read

Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum is a bit too conmonly used and is kinda NPCish
SARM cycle seems unnecessary
If youre 18 your plates might be open and your diet might be stunting growth

If youre 18 youre lacking dimorphism

Overall you’re already htn though all this might ascend you to strong HTN if it works.

Gl
 
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My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
View attachment 2636878

Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS


don’t use tret it will fuck up fat pads and u will get gay glow
 
Mirin make sure u maintain a perfect GPA too my biggest regret in life is getting a 3.9 gpa and not a 4.0
 
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mtn normie my ass nigga if thats u in ur pfp ur strong htn congrats nigga
 
I appreciate the thread man, keep up the good work (you are not a bad-looking guy either, please do not listen to these obscure users). In addition, if you have any questions or concerns, I can help you out. Godspeed, brother!

My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
View attachment 2636878

Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS

 
My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
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Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS


Good read appreciate it
 
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Do any of your family members suffer from hairloss? Might want to add fin as a preemptive measure.
 
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Wish you the best bro. Mirin the dedication
 
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Do any of your family members suffer from hairloss? Might want to add fin as a preemptive measure.
fathers side does a little bit but mothers side has mogger hair genes. and i’m pretty sure mothers side determines hair loss
 
Thanks for the guide.
 
My Ascension Plan:


🆘 MANDATORY THREAD SOUNDTRACK 🆘

Two Options for the soundtrack:
Option 1 (Recommended): Watch the video before reading the thread and get hyped as balls.
Option 2 (Also Decent): Have it playing in the background but then you will miss out on the mogger video.​

Introduction and Current Appearance:

You have probably seen me in the rating section on occasion. I appreciate all the feedback whether it's BlackGymMax calling me a 4/10 or somebody dick-riding and calling me a mini-Arvid I appreciate it because it allowed me to create this post. I am an 18-year-old uni student with a part-time job. If I have enough time to do all this shit, you guys should get off your asses and at least try some softmaxxes if you haven't. Below you will find my current frontal and side profile. If some of you greycels have the same flaws as me, I recommend at least trying the same things I am doing.​


Eye Area:

Eyebrows: My eyebrows are on the weaker side, I would say probably average. However, I am combatting this by applying Minoxidil and Castor Oil on them every night in that order. Let the minox absorb for a bit before applying Castor Oil, and do not apply the castor oil first or the minox will not work. I also plan on dyeing my eyebrows darker than they are.

Eyelashes: My eyelashes are also weaker, not because of length, but color. I plan on dyeing them black, I believe this will help my eye area so much. I also have been putting castor oil on them, and they have been getting longer/thicker hairs it seems.

Tilted Sphenoid: This is the cause of my minor eye asymmetry. And is probably the cause of yours if you have it. Check if you have one foot that points more outward than the other and/or have lateral or an anterior pelvic tilt. Having these tilts in your sphenoid results in asymmetry. To fix it you have to start by walking normally, then fix your pelvic tilt through stretches then maybe just maybe your sphenoid will realign. Could be cope but worth a shot in my opinion, it is pretty easy to attempt.

NCT: The first thing you noticed when you opened up my frontal was probably my negative canthal tilt. If any of you know any softmaxxes to maybe fix it let me know. If there are none, I will probably result to a canthoplasty with Dr. Taban.​

Skincare:

Morning
Night
Hydrating Cleanser​
Hydrating Cleanser​

Hydrating Toner​
Hydrating Toner​
Topical Clindamycin​
Azelaic Acid (This Helps w/redness)​
Moisturizer​
0.025 Tretinoin (Nightly)​
Benzoyl Peroxide (only on active acne)​
Moisturizer​
Sunscreen​

My Gym Plan:
Current Physique: 5’10 Barefoot, 158 lbs.

PEDs (Ostarine): I am currently 5 days in on a 12-week 25 mg dose of the SARM “Ostarine” or MK-2866. This is my second cycle of the SARM. My first cycle was an 8-week 17.5 mg dose, and I put on 18 lbs. I lost 5 pounds of water weight since the cycle ended. So I put on 13 lbs total I had zero side effects other than my test dropping while on cycle, but I combatted this with taking enclo. My test levels went exactly back to normal. No acne, no hair loss (jfl at taking Rad-140), and you won't look fat during the cycle (jfl at taking LGD). In my opinion, it is the perfect SARM to put on muscle, while also not having horrible sides. I should put way more muscle this time, I will create a Pnuemo-type post once I finish the cycle. PLEASE GET BLOODS BEFORE TAKING ANY PEDs. I got the ostarine from Sports Technology Labs (great company, highly recommend). And the enclo from receptor chem. The ostarine tastes like the Godzilla's asshole, and the enclo tastes like garlic bread that you left sitting out for three months. But it's worth it, and don't get pill formed, get liquid so it's easier to adjust the dosages as necessary.

"Female Gaze Day": I know it's incredibly unconventional and probably sub-optimal but I just find it so funny so I keep doing it. Every time I go to the gym im like “Time to look good for the chicks”, and during male gaze day I'm like “Time to look good for the homies”. Probably not ideal but everyone overcomplicates the gym, as long as ur hitting every muscle group and eating well you will get gains. My “female gaze” day consists of Shoulders and Back (V-Taper muscles), Chest, Neck, and Forearms.

Shoulders- Dumbbell Seated Overhead Press, Lateral Raises (spam the absolute fuck out of these I do like 6-8 sets), and a rear delt exercise of choice.

Back- Weighted Pullups, Dumbbell rows, Machine Rows, Lat Pulldown

Chest- Dumbbell Bench (normal bench if im at Uni), Dumbbell Incline, Pec-Dec Flies

Neck- Neck curls (front and back)

Forearms- Wrist Curls (behind back) and Reverse curls.

“Male Gaze Day”- Now that you look good for the broads, you can't leave the homies and gym bros hanging, gotta build some respect. My “Male Gaze Day” consists of the Biceps, Triceps, Legs, Neck, and Forearms. I alternate these every time I go to the gym which is usually 6-7 times a week. Who tf needs rest when ur on PEDs, just get good sleep and capitalize on them gains boyo.

Biceps- Normal Curls, Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls

Triceps- Rope Pushdowns, Bar Pushdowns, and skull crushers.

Legs- Quad Extensions, Hamstring Curls, Glute focused Leg Press

Neck- Same as the other day

Forearms- Same as other day


Sprinting: I sprint a mile daily on the treadmill after my gym session. It promotes growth hormone for you height maxxers, debloats you (will get into later), and is good for overall cardiovascular health. I plan on getting into MMA so I need to get my cardio in.​

My Diet Plan:

Food: I have completely cut out junk food of my diet, it may give u a quick dopamine hit, but it makes you feel worse in the long run anyways. (My dumbass used to pound cosmic brownies and cookies growing up.)

These are the foods I consume now:

Eggs, Chicken, Steak, Ham, Avocado, Blueberries, Strawberries, Bananas, Dark chocolate (yum), peanuts, Salmon, Protein Power (im counting this as a food fuck you). Probably missing some things but you get the point, nothing that will harm my body.

Liquids: The only things I drink are water, coconut water, and the occasional sports drink (rare). If you are still drinking shit like diet coke or soda and are on this website may I ask what in the actual fuck you are doing.

My Current Supplement Stack:

Youngevity Tangy Tangerine 2.5: I found this product through @Amnesia 's Diet Guide. When paired with the next product, it has every single vitamin/mineral your body needs and more. In forms that is easy for your body to use. You do not get this from the shitty Walmart Vitamins you buy. I take a scoop of this every single morning. Tastes pretty damn good as well for all the vitamins in it. Very pricy though so if you are on a strict “lookmaxxing” budget I recommend spending your money elsewhere. It is around $70 a month.
View attachment 2636878

Youngevity Bone/Joint Support: Again, I found this product and brand through Amnesias diet guide. This hits every vitamin that your body needs for joint/bone support that is not in the tangy tangerine. Does not taste as good as the tangy tangerine, but still pretty good. Not as expensive as it either, think its around $40 a month. I have felt so much better since taking these two products. (I have been taking them for probably 3-4 weeks now)

K2 megadose: There is no point in doing this if you are not taking D3 with it as well. (There is plenty of d3 in the tangy tangerine and surprisingly no k2 in either youngevity product). I am currently taking 500 mcg a day of k2-mk4. Which is alot better than the mk-7 K2. Vitamin K2, specifically MK-4, is crucial for bone health and calcium regulation. It promotes bone strength by aiding calcium incorporation into the bone matrix and may help prevent arterial calcification, benefiting cardiovascular health. While further research is needed, including MK-4 in the diet or through supplements could support bone and cardiovascular well-being. Consultation with a healthcare professional is recommended for personalized guidance. (THIS WAS DEFINETLEY NOT CHATGPT JFL). Also megadosing K2 its possible to have bone growth in the face. (I would be very surprised) but this is the main reason im taking it, especially paired with the Ostarine.


Beta Carotene: I take two pills from Puritans Pride every day to give me a fake tan. I am usually pale in the winter, but look at my avi, i look tan asf and this pic was taken during the winter, this shit works. And you don't have to age your skin/get skin cancer from using a tanning bed or the sun.

Astaxanthin: Using this to give me red/pink undertones. Which I already have but I'm trying to increase them even more. Pink/red undertones on somebody tanned is such a halo imo.

Milk Thistle: Yeah, so you guys probably do not need to take this. But I do, mainly because my liver is probably going to be fucked when I'm older if I don't. This helps detox your liver. Here is a list of things I have taken to destroy my liver. Prozac, Vyvanse ( I just took one so I could write this jfl), now ostarine, and I'm an avid drinker when I go partying. So yeah, I need to do all I can to try to not get liver failure at 40.

Magnesium Glycinate/Cherry Tart Extract/Melatonin: These are all things that help me fall asleep quickly and improve the quality of my sleep. My sleep score has gone up a good amount when taking these. Try to fall asleep and wake up at the same time every day as much as possible.​

Lips: My Biggest Flaw

Volufiline: I suffer from pretty thin lips. Not death tier but enough that getting thicker ones could help ascend me. So, I have been and will continue to put volufiline on both my upper and lower lips. I'm probably a month in and have seen decent results. I'm hoping for more though, so I don't have to resort to lip fillers. I take that back I am never getting lip fillers because they may look uncanny so let's just pray this works. I also apply it on my under eyes, and my nasal folds (smile lines).

Brushing Lips: I do this for two benefits. First of all they look more smooth when getting the dry skin off of them. And secondly, I dont know the exact science behind it and I dont feel like looking it up, but all I know is that they look larger after doing so. Maybe because they get inflamed? I have no clue, all I know is that it works.

Vaseline: Helps keep lips from chapping.​

Cheekbones and Jaw:

Bonesmashing Zygos: My zygos are high set. But not prominent enough. I am bone smashing my zygos with my knuckles, 3 times a week. Then let them rest for 4 days. This is the reason I'm mega-dosing on k2, trying to increase my zygo size. Even if this is cope long term, you get an increase in the size of them instantly due to the swelling.

Masseter Hypertrophy: I have a good jaw. But my biggest flaw is it looks round from the front/inward gonions. I believe this is due to having zero massester muscles. Chewing falim gum every day plus being on PEDs should help me grow them. And before you say its gonna make me look bloated, that's just on people with shit chins and my chin is good asf. As long as I dont activate my buccinator muscles I should be chilling.​

My Nose:

Dorsal Hump Removal: In the future I plan on doing this for $1-2k. Would probably give me a chadlite side profile, its really my only flaw from my 3/4th and side.

Alar Base Reduction: I have a wide alar base making my nose look very ethnic. I could fix this for 3-5k. Don't know if I'm going to, but it is on the table.

My Main Two Fragrances:

Everyday Fragrance: My everyday Fragrance of choice is Blue De Chanel Eau de Parfum. Makes me smell like a young CFO of a growing company JFL.

Going Out/Dates Fragrance: For going out/dates I wear Jean Paul Gaultier Elixer, a great smelling fragrance, and have received a good number of compliments.​
Social Plan:

Irl:
Try to be less high inhib irl. I overthink everything when I am with my friends.

Social Media: Try to gain a following on social media, I wont post looksmaxxing content dont worry jfl. Also try to respond quicker to my friends on social media, I have almost lost some friends due to taking forever to respond.

IF YOU MADE IT THIS FAR
PLEASE GIVE A BROTHER SOME REP
THIS TOOK A DECENT BIT OF TIME.
APPRECIATE IT BOYOS


good frame tbh a lot of muscle building potential how tall are you
 

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