20 | How can I improve?

[User49]

Why would you suggest OBO? I have 65mm IPD

Your orbital bones are rotated downwards

 

[User49]

Your orbital bones are rotated downwards

same problem as @spiderman2
No “late puberty” will save this

only with obo with rotation can save you from appearing extremely weak

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

same problem as @spiderman2
No “late puberty” will save this

only with obo with rotation can save you from appearing extremely weak

Either way, I'd rather look weak than perform a high risk surgery that is usually performed on deformed children with eye tumor lol

 

[User49]

deformed children

How old are you?

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

How old are you?

Literally in the title

 

[User49]

Literally in the title

Oh my bad

maybe u can cope with cantho + lower lid retraction + nose bridge autmentation + supras + genio + wider mouth

 

[User49]

Oh my bad

maybe u can cope with cantho + lower lid retraction + nose bridge autmentation + supras + genio + wider mouth

ignore nose bridge it’s fine

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

Oh my bad

maybe u can cope with cantho + lower lid retraction + nose bridge autmentation + supras + genio + wider mouth

Yes thank you.
I have an appointment in a few days for lower lid and cantho.
I'm not touch nose yea it's completely fine imo, prob the only thing I'm not insecure about.
I have an appointement for genio/jawline on 22nd of may.
Do those softmaxx things where they use 3d to widen mouth actually work? Because a surgery to "widen" the mouth doesn't exist in France

 

[Deleted member 21796]

same problem as @spiderman2
No “late puberty” will save this

only with obo with rotation can save you from appearing extremely weak

OVER

 

[It'snotover]

it’s for eyes protection not aesthetics

You are partially right, it's useless for aesthetics. What matter most is the supraorbitals, they decide your eye shape and how compacts they will be. However browridge is good for who runs masc game and usually men with better brow ridge ages a bit better. I know many men irl with prominent browridge but prey eyes, while people like chico or pitt have hunter eyes with boneless browridge.

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Try to look more like this

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

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Try to look more like this

Lmfaooo, I don't wanna end up like that one guy. But realistically what you're saying is widen mouth, fix skin and eyes.
Have appointement for eyes already. And do you know if that softmaxx to widen mouth with 3d appliance actuzlly works?

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Lmfaooo, I don't wanna end up like that one guy. But realistically what you're saying is widen mouth, fix skin and eyes.
Have appointement for eyes already. And do you know if that softmaxx to widen mouth with 3d appliance actuzlly works?

Ngl I have one and I decided to just get the surgery in the future.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Literally in the title

I caged so hard at this

JFL at the IQ and attention span of users on this forum

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

Ngl I have one and I decided to just get the surgery in the future.

Unfortunately, there isn't surgery for mouth widening in France. Though, I will very soon put invisalign to push my molars and back teeth, because they have gone inside a bit, and the orthodontist said that this might stretch my mouth a bit, depending on many factors, but that cannot be predicted. I'm doubtful about that 3d thing cuz i don't wanna have mouth wrinkles at 25.

 

[rooman]

would you also suggest like a canthoplasty or something for my eyes? I went to a surgeon though he said it would look unnatural on me, and advised me against it. Should I look for a second opinion?

Canthoplasty might not fix nct but I think canthopexy might but I am still trying to find something to fix nct. I also have a death tier eye area.

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Unfortunately, there isn't surgery for mouth widening in France. Though, I will very soon put invisalign to push my molars and back teeth, because they have gone inside a bit, and the orthodontist said that this might stretch my mouth a bit, depending on many factors, but that cannot be predicted. I'm doubtful about that 3d thing cuz i don't wanna have mouth wrinkles at 25.

I’d probably just focus on saving up for cantho before even thinking about anything else ngl. Your eye area sucks.

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

Canthoplasty might not fix nct but I think canthopexy might but I am still trying to find something to fix nct. I also have a death tier eye area.

Yea it actually is Canthopexy I was talking about the whole time lol, Canthoplasty is way more invasive. You are correct, I will check back here with an update on the 9th of may after my visit to a top tier eye surgeon in Paris.

I’d probably just focus on saving up for cantho before even thinking about anything else ngl. Your eye area sucks.

I know it sucks, my first phrase on how to improve in the thread is: "I want to change my eyes"

 

[agoostis]

Im in France, and also read bad things about him, you got any french/parisian blackpill surgeons?

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sinon turquie

 

[CoeurSurIlo]

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sinon turquie

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