+20 pounds (9kg) in 1 month of natty gymcelling with godly testosterone stack (not beginner gains)

[garoupilled_]

Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery - been doing PPL and a clean bulk with a natural testosterone supplement stack that I took months to formulate but gladly has been very effective (+3,5kg/7,7lb pure muscle in only 30 days) - still adjusting the stack throughout the next 2 months tho when I complete the 90 days hallmark and get a test exam to see the final results

My previous exam was last year and it came out at 900 ng while not taking anything, thus hopefully I’d expect to have low 1000s naturally, let’s see how it goes

Haven’t got any old progress pics but currently standing at 5’11.5 (182cm) @ 67kg

 

[Toth's thot]

what's the stack

 

[garoupilled_]

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[Octavian_Augustus]

What is your stack. In college I had 1300 ng but what's more important is free T. Is yours high?

 

[garoupilled_]

what's the stack

Haven't complete it yet, will make a megaguide on testmaxxing in 2 months listing everything

 

[Sprinkles]

lol how the fuck are you a mod

 

[garoupilled_]

What is your stack. In college I had 1300 ng but what's more important is free T. Is yours high?

Last time I checked yes

 

[N3XT]

Thread makes zero sense.

Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery

We don't know how long you lifted for before that surgery, we don't know jack shit.
No before-after pics, nothing. Most confusing thread I've ever seen in 2 years.

 

[garoupilled_]

Thread makes zero sense.

We don't know how long you lifted for before that surgery, we don't know jack shit.
No before-after pics, nothing. Most confusing thread I've ever seen in 2 years.

Lifted for 6 months prior

 

[Deleted member 27550]

Just tell us your stack.

 

[N3XT]

Lifted for 6 months prior

Why did you post that photo, like for what purpose?
I'm legitimately just trying to understand, cause it doesn't make sense.

 

[garoupilled_]

Why did you post that photo, like for what purpose?
I'm legitimately just trying to understand, cause it doesn't make sense.

Fair point lmao

 

[Bvnny.]

Based BMI, don't get fatter tho, bulking is a scam for the most part, you should strive to be as lean as possible.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Didn't know our favorite high iq guidecel was a gymbro as well

 

[Sondern]

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Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery - been doing PPL and a clean bulk with a natural testosterone supplement stack that I took months to formulate but gladly has been very effective (+3,5kg/7,7lb pure muscle in only 30 days) - still adjusting the stack throughout the next 2 months tho when I complete the 90 days hallmark and get a test exam to see the final results

My previous exam was last year and it came out at 900 ng while not taking anything, thus hopefully I’d expect to have low 1000s naturally, let’s see how it goes

Haven’t got any old progress pics but currently standing at 5’11.5 (182cm) @ 67kg

Let me guess. Tonka Ali, ashwaganda, I forget the 3 main ones name. It's called dogia agresta or somthin like that. Vitamin D.

I'd also expect and ai perhaps aromasin

 

[zharupodrugu]

Its called muscle memory. It has nothing to do with ur stack. When u are not lifting u are losing muscles but they will comeback faster when u starting to lift again

 

[chrisN]

1 month natty for 9kg is insane

 

[garoupilled_]

Based BMI, don't get fatter tho, bulking is a scam for the most part, you should strive to be as lean as possible.

I still have lean abs so I think I'll fatmaxx until low 20s BF tbh

Let me guess. Tonka Ali, ashwaganda, I forget the 3 main ones name. It's called dogia agresta or somthin like that. Vitamin D.

I'd also expect and ai perhaps aromasin

Got ashwaganda right, AI wouldn't make me natty

Its called muscle memory. It has nothing to do with ur stack. When u are not lifting u are losing muscles but they will comeback faster when u starting to lift again

Not muscle memory since I'm bigger now than I was during the 6 months previous lifting period + I barely lost muscle while being away

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Got ashwaganda right, AI wouldn't make me natty

Jfl if ur writing guides on looksmax.org, you should be past the point of not wanting to "cheat".

It doesn't supress and provides insane test boost.

Doubled my test with nothing but arimidex (594 to 1085 with proof)

There are all the bloods, estradiol varies between 25 and 32 which is a bit high tbh but ive increased the dose accordingly. This is mainly for heightmaxxing but the energy and fitness benefits are a nice bonus. I feel like a god tbh, I sound like im on adderall with how much energy I have and 0...

looksmax.org

 

[garoupilled_]

Jfl if ur writing guides on looksmax.org, you should be past the point of not wanting to "cheat".

It doesn't supress and provides insane test boost.

Doubled my test with nothing but arimidex (594 to 1085 with proof)

There are all the bloods, estradiol varies between 25 and 32 which is a bit high tbh but ive increased the dose accordingly. This is mainly for heightmaxxing but the energy and fitness benefits are a nice bonus. I feel like a god tbh, I sound like im on adderall with how much energy I have and 0...

looksmax.org

No I agree, I'll hop on a sarms cycle next year, natty lifting is a meme, just going to get another surgery in a couple months and after I recover from that I'll cycle

 

[Gengar]

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Warned for mass tagging.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Warned for mass tagging.

Did you actually?

 

[Gengar]

Did you actually?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

SARMs? everyone says they suck ass, why not T

What the fuck are you talking about no sarm was mentioned

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Wait I misread it
You doubled your test with just an AI??
Had no idea that was a thing

prevents test from converting into estrogen leaving more for gains instead of birthing pains

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Sounds like a relatively safe, good strat? Why is it not more discussed

Idk and idc my bloods in the thread don't ask more questions or ur dead

 

[HOLYFUARK]

It reads on the picture u posted that u gained mostly fat.
There is also to say that the first month of working out is neurological adaptation , so what im saying is you gained around 2-3 kg of muscle , and what you gained is mostly muscle memory from prior 6 months of lifting.
If you wish to talk about testmaxxing stacks you can pm me , i wrote the natural androgenmaxx estrogenmin guide in botb, since then i made more substantial progress.

 

[MatheusCqb]

I still have lean abs so I think I'll fatmaxx until low 20s BF tbh

Got ashwaganda right, AI wouldn't make me natty

Not muscle memory since I'm bigger now than I was during the 6 months previous lifting period + I barely lost muscle while being away

pegou ashwagha aonde man ? só acho os bglh com farinha no br

 

[garoupilled_]

pegou ashwagha aonde man ? só acho os bglh com farinha no br

oficial farma, pega a versão ksm que é melhor

 

[czwarty]

Its called muscle memory. It has nothing to do with ur stack. When u are not lifting u are losing muscles but they will comeback faster when u starting to lift again

Sorry to burst your bubble OP but this here is the answer. Surgeries and healing period are very hard on your body and you will always have weight and muscle loss, those gains you got now are simply rapid recuperation of what you lost before (what he means by muscle memory, it's one of organism's functions of healing back) plus some normal-level gains, and very probably also fat mass increase.
"Natural T stacks" don't do shit no matter what shaman magic is promised to you, it's a rip-off. It's aimed exactly at situations like this so to untrained eye it looks like it actually works.

You simply did a good training and nutrition progress, which is honestly even better as you could do it without any of this shit.

 

[garoupilled_]

Sorry to burst your bubble OP but this here is the answer. Surgeries and healing period are very hard on your body and you will always have weight and muscle loss, those gains you got now are simply rapid recuperation of what you lost before (what he means by muscle memory, it's one of organism's functions of healing back) plus some normal-level gains, and very probably also fat mass increase.
"Natural T stacks" don't do shit no matter what shaman magic is promised to you, it's a rip-off. It's aimed exactly at situations like this so to untrained eye it looks like it actually works.

You simply did a good training and nutrition progress, which is honestly even better as you could do it without any of this shit.

Low t mindset although half true

 

[imabetanumale]

Last time I checked yes

What Is your free testosterone? Mine is 70 pg/ml

 

[Sondern]

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Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery - been doing PPL and a clean bulk with a natural testosterone supplement stack that I took months to formulate but gladly has been very effective (+3,5kg/7,7lb pure muscle in only 30 days) - still adjusting the stack throughout the next 2 months tho when I complete the 90 days hallmark and get a test exam to see the final results

My previous exam was last year and it came out at 900 ng while not taking anything, thus hopefully I’d expect to have low 1000s naturally, let’s see how it goes

Haven’t got any old progress pics but currently standing at 5’11.5 (182cm) @ 67kg

after being away for a while due to surgery

I forget are u the one who got pectus surgery?
If so
I'm about to get mine done, how long did u stop lifting for?

Also do u have before and after pics?

 

[garoupilled_]

What Is your free testosterone? Mine is 70 pg/ml

No clue

after being away for a while due to surgery

I forget are u the one who got pectus surgery?
If so
I'm about to get mine done, how long did u stop lifting for?

Also do u have before and after pics?

Yeah

I was away for 3 months, haven't got pics unfortunately but it looks natural now (besides the scars obviously)

 

[Sondern]

No clue

Yeah

I was away for 3 months, haven't got pics unfortunately but it looks natural now (besides the scars obviously)

How much did your breathing quality have increase by? Was it noticeable? Was your pectus really bad?

 

[garoupilled_]

How much did your breathing quality have increase by? Was it noticeable? Was your pectus really bad?

I'd say about 10-20%, yes it was noticeable but it wasn't that bad

 

[clank_anon]

tag me for the stack pls

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

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Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery - been doing PPL and a clean bulk with a natural testosterone supplement stack that I took months to formulate but gladly has been very effective (+3,5kg/7,7lb pure muscle in only 30 days) - still adjusting the stack throughout the next 2 months tho when I complete the 90 days hallmark and get a test exam to see the final results

My previous exam was last year and it came out at 900 ng while not taking anything, thus hopefully I’d expect to have low 1000s naturally, let’s see how it goes

Haven’t got any old progress pics but currently standing at 5’11.5 (182cm) @ 67kg

Tag big boy

 

[Deleted member 43403]

Tag Me Too

 

[Deleted member 28990]

have you made the stack yet?

 

[Sondern]

View attachment 2380307
Started gymcelling exactly 1 month ago after being away for a while due to surgery - been doing PPL and a clean bulk with a natural testosterone supplement stack that I took months to formulate but gladly has been very effective (+3,5kg/7,7lb pure muscle in only 30 days) - still adjusting the stack throughout the next 2 months tho when I complete the 90 days hallmark and get a test exam to see the final results

My previous exam was last year and it came out at 900 ng while not taking anything, thus hopefully I’d expect to have low 1000s naturally, let’s see how it goes

Haven’t got any old progress pics but currently standing at 5’11.5 (182cm) @ 67kg

updates?

 

[socialcel]

Based BMI, don't get fatter tho, bulking is a scam for the most part, you should strive to be as lean as possible.

20.7 is unideal for frame tbh