25 male 6'5 (195 cm) do i have a good base to gymmax?

[ZPX97]

Im 6'5 Balkan Slav and 205 lbs and go to the gym since one month.
Do you think I can become big naturally
Should I bulk or cut?

 

[6ft4]

yes you have a decent base
Enter a gaining phase first then cut after a while

 

[tooLOW]

Yes, but first remove that disgusting hair
i mean u can bulk

 

[Deleted member 20519]

Yes

 

[eduardkoopman]

Im 6'5 and 205 lbs and go to the gym since one month.
Do you think I can become big naturally
Should I bulk or cut?

Always cut, untill below 15% bf

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

What do you think people are gonna say you silly retard?

Look at your shoulder to hip ratio without any gym?

You just want to indulge in mental masturbation though. Get lifting. Stupid faggot

 

[ZPX97]

What do you think people are gonna say you silly retard?

Look at your shoulder to hip ratio without any gym?

You just want to indulge in mental masturbation though. Get lifting. Stupid faggot

Bro I just think the people here have good knowledge and wanted to get an opinion.
Didnt want to offend you

 

[HAPAgymcel]

nice bulge

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Bro I just think the people here have good knowledge and wanted to get an opinion.
Didnt want to offend you

You don't need knowledge for this.

1. You are 6'5
2. You have a very good shoulder to hip ratio GENETICALLY
3. You aren't Asian or Indian so your muscle building genetics will be solid

That's all there is to it. Anything else is autistic crap.

What do you want to know? You know about calorific surplus? You know about the foods to eat? You know about lifting form? All of this shit is out there on YouTube. You're asking literal incels to give you better advice than these internet studies and YouTubers with phds all because they are 'based' ? Fuck, man.

 

[FootballPlaya69]

What do you think people are gonna say you silly retard?

Look at your shoulder to hip ratio without any gym?

You just want to indulge in mental masturbation though. Get lifting. Stupid faggot

 

[Ceo of cope]

Im 6'5 Balkan Slav and 205 lbs and go to the gym since one month.
Do you think I can become big naturally
Should I bulk or cut?

insane frame, you have potential to become yujiro hanma irl.
start a recomp ASAP and do either an upper lower split or ppl.
it will take you years but you will end up a titan

 

[Ceo of cope]

What do you think people are gonna say you silly retard?

Look at your shoulder to hip ratio without any gym?

You just want to indulge in mental masturbation though. Get lifting. Stupid faggot

he is frauding by tilting his camera inwards, which increases precieved shoulder to hip ratio (its a well known gymcel trick) so he prob doesnt look as impressive irl, especially considering he is also lat spreading and soulder flaring. Still very good base and should gymmaxxx asap

 

[casadebanho]

Im 6'5 Balkan Slav and 205 lbs and go to the gym since one month.
Do you think I can become big naturally
Should I bulk or cut?

I know this is just a humble brag thread but I will help you

yes, you are 6'5 (percentile 99 in height) and have close to 2.0 shoulder to waist ratio without training

Do you need to train in the gym? No, genetics already did all the work for u but if you want to get even bigger go for it

 

[Deleted member 21221]

Im 6'5 Balkan Slav and 205 lbs and go to the gym since one month.
Do you think I can become big naturally
Should I bulk or cut?

Comedically good frame.

 

[Ceo of cope]

I know this is just a humble brag thread but I will help you

yes, you are 6'5 (percentile 99 in height) and have close to 2.0 shoulder to waist ratio without training

Do you need to train in the gym? No, genetics already did all the work for u but if you want to get even bigger go for it

no matter your frame you need to be lean with clear muscle seperation and visible abs if you want your physique to appeal to foids.

 

[StuffedFrog]

6'5 damn you damn you to hell

 

[casadebanho]

no matter your frame you need to be lean with clear muscle seperation and visible abs if you want your physique to appeal to foids.

You are right being lean is like 50% of having a good physique, but he can achieve leanness with only diet, just needs calorie defecit

Personally if I was him I woud still go gym because better mental health

 

[Ceo of cope]

no matter your frame you need to be lean with clear muscle seperation and visible abs if you want your physique to appeal to foids.

of course, this would all be useless without passing the face treshhold. Op, what is your estimated psl?

 

[Ceo of cope]

You are right being lean is like 50% of having a good physique, but he can achieve leanness with only diet, just needs calorie defecit

Personally if I was him I woud still go gym because better mental health

a frame like that is going to waste if he doesnt gymmaxx at all tbh. Even if he only trains abs and arms he would mog 99% of males on earth in physique

 

[Ceo of cope]

also you have a dickcel tier bulge op so i hope for your sake that you are a strong grower

 

[subtochad]

This motherfucker is 6'5 with broad ass shoulders. Probably the best/most intimidating frame possible.

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Ngl, don't neglect your legs. They already look comically small compared to your upper body

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Also average balkan guy

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

You don't need knowledge for this.

1. You are 6'5
2. You have a very good shoulder to hip ratio GENETICALLY
3. You aren't Asian or Indian so your muscle building genetics will be solid

That's all there is to it. Anything else is autistic crap.

What do you want to know? You know about calorific surplus? You know about the foods to eat? You know about lifting form? All of this shit is out there on YouTube. You're asking literal incels to give you better advice than these internet studies and YouTubers with phds all because they are 'based' ? Fuck, man.

I think OP does/did some type of lifting. I doubt he has that ratio naturally.

 

[owlofathena]

@MakinItHappenReturn is seething at this post

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I think OP does/did some type of lifting. I doubt he has that ratio naturally.

A lot of dudes do have a decent shoulder to hip ratio without even lifting.

That clavicle part of the shoulder is largely genetic. That's why you see all these gym guys that workout like crazy and murder their side lats with SLOPED shoulders and it looks ugly af.

The Black Pill in the shoulder the hip ratio is some guys won't have even average clavicles and so even when they workout it just slopes downwards and looks shit.

Hate to use this dude as an example as he's out there helping young men but yeah:

Case in point.

Also some guys just have wide hips. Like Indians especially store fat in their abdomen region and have naturally wider hips. Their clavicles are at least average however so they have that base where if they really train their side delts, they will expand their frame.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@MakinItHappenReturn is seething at this post

Damn right. I'm 5'8 and wished I had that stature. Cmon man.

I also hate the fucking living shit out of dudes that say 'oh well you can put on muscle/size easier man, for us taller guys we have to put way more effort in to fill out our frame'. Are you fucking kidding me? Tall fags moaning about having to be a little more patient, or train with a little more intensity, heavier weight or higher rep ranges? Honestly bro, height is a massive equaliser to the face. It is tits and ass for men. Too many autistic sufferers on here with Chico all over their bedroom walls don't realise it. Who btw is 6'3 let's just add

 

[owlofathena]

A lot of dudes do have a decent shoulder to hip ratio without even lifting.

That clavicle part of the shoulder is largely genetic. That's why you see all these gym guys that workout like crazy and murder their side lats with SLOPED shoulders and it looks ugly af.

The Black Pill in the shoulder the hip ratio is some guys won't have even average clavicles and so even when they workout it just slopes downwards and looks shit.

Hate to use this dude as an example as he's out there helping young men but yeah:

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Case in point.

Also some guys just have wide hips. Like Indians especially store fat in their abdomen region and have naturally wider hips. Their clavicles are at least average however so they have that base where if they really train their side delts, they will expand their frame.

His are fine tbh taller guys are more lively to have longer clavicles but not always. But I have to say David Gandy hips are a big failo despite him having a great body

 

[Ceo of cope]

A lot of dudes do have a decent shoulder to hip ratio without even lifting.

That clavicle part of the shoulder is largely genetic. That's why you see all these gym guys that workout like crazy and murder their side lats with SLOPED shoulders and it looks ugly af.

The Black Pill in the shoulder the hip ratio is some guys won't have even average clavicles and so even when they workout it just slopes downwards and looks shit.

Hate to use this dude as an example as he's out there helping young men but yeah:

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Case in point.

Also some guys just have wide hips. Like Indians especially store fat in their abdomen region and have naturally wider hips. Their clavicles are at least average however so they have that base where if they really train their side delts, they will expand their frame.

jacked and stacked is actually a great example of gymmax halo. He just looks like that in a shirt because of his big traps. I followed his transformation and he has great muscle building genetics insertions, and he blew up in size. Had decent bideltoid even before gymcelling tho, especially for his height. In the vid he made with austin dunham he mogged him in soulder width and size even though dunham probably juices and he doesn't.

 

[Ceo of cope]

Damn right. I'm 5'8 and wished I had that stature. Cmon man.

I also hate the fucking living shit out of dudes that say 'oh well you can put on muscle/size easier man, for us taller guys we have to put way more effort in to fill out our frame'. Are you fucking kidding me? Tall fags moaning about having to be a little more patient, or train with a little more intensity, heavier weight or higher rep ranges? Honestly bro, height is a massive equaliser to the face. It is tits and ass for men. Too many autistic sufferers on here with Chico all over their bedroom walls don't realise it. Who btw is 6'3 let's just add

stop coping. Being 5'8 doesn't make someone an incel. Also, indians dont have wide hips or bad frames, they just have dogshit diet, and hence dogshit hormonal profile and hence dogshit fat distribution which gives them that skinnyfat pearshaped look. It doesnt make sense that malnourished slum curries would have wider anything than wealthy healthy whites. Also, body isnt even close to being the same halo it is on men as it is on women

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

His are fine tbh taller guys are more lively to have longer clavicles but not always. But I have to say David Gandy hips are a big failo despite him having a great body

Dude there are midgets out there with wide clavicles. I've seen it many times. Him being 5'5 isn't the cause.

It's to do with the clavicle bone itself. There was a thread on this in the Best Of the Best section which I read a year or so ago.

This guy trains side delts but because his clavicles aren't like the skeleton below his shoulders with the slabs of muscle slope downwards

You can’t build a great building on a weak foundation.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

jacked and stacked is actually a great example of gymmax halo. He just looks like that in a shirt because of his big traps. I followed his transformation and he has great muscle building genetics insertions, and he blew up in size. Had decent bideltoid even before gymcelling tho, especially for his height. In the vid he made with austin dunham he mogged him in soulder width and size even though dunham probably juices and he doesn't.

All agreed, but his shoulders slope and there is no denying that this is a partial hindrance to his physique looking better

Imma try and find the thread on this. It's located in the best of the best section and explains it in depth

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

stop coping. If you are incel it is not because you are 5'8

I am not incel fuckiwt. I am in a LTR

I am simply spitting facts. Shut that incel talk up

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

I am not incel fuckiwt. I am in a LTR

I am simply spitting facts. Shut that incel talk up

Btw,can you check my latest thread need someone with knowledge to rate my eye area.

 

[Ceo of cope]

All agreed, but his shoulders slope and there is no denying that this is a partial hindrance to his physique looking better

Imma try and find the thread on this. It's located in the best of the best section and explains it in depth

i dont know about jacked and stacked in particular, but a lot of times PSLers think someone has "sloping shoulders" when really they have big traps and very well developed lateral deltoids. In any case, sloped shoulders dont have to mean/be correlated with narrow shoulders, and shoulder wiidth is surely more important for porportions than shoulder shape?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

@Ceo of cope your confidence outweighs your IQ. First of all quit projecting. I am not an incel. Second of all you don't know shit about the science and spitting sheer pseudo bullshit about diets etc. Our diets have been shit for centuries, leading to shit genetics. It's not the current diets western Indians have today.

 

[Ceo of cope]

@Ceo of cope your confidence outweighs your IQ. First of all quit projecting. I am not an incel. Second of all you don't know shit about the science and spitting sheer pseudo bullshit about diets etc. Our diets have been shit for centuries, leading to shit genetics. It's not the current diets western Indians have today.

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yeah this is true, i know about this. But this says nothing about frame which this thread is about. I am not projecting, i thought you were incel based on your super jealousy about height and frame and such. I actually have quite a bit of respect for you as a forum poster as you seem to be a pioneer of the concept of harmony.

 

[fruitgunpop]

All agreed, but his shoulders slope and there is no denying that this is a partial hindrance to his physique looking better

Imma try and find the thread on this. It's located in the best of the best section and explains it in depth

Tag me when u find it
Also mirin keeping it real w your posts

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

yeah this is true, i know about this. But this says nothing about frame which this thread is about. I am not projecting, i thought you were incel based on your super jealousy about height and frame and such. I actually have quite a bit of respect for you as a forum poster as you seem to be a pioneer of the concept of harmony.

You can be jealous about somebody's height and not be a fucking incel lol

Appreciate it. Yeah harmony is underrated. After learning about facial aesthetics in the 2020 pandemic I observed a lot of faces going about my day to day shit irl consciously/subconsciously and realised none of these amazing features matter for shit if you don't have harmony and that also the biggest halo to a face is the eye-area, not the jaw, not the cheekbones and not the smile.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Btw,can you check my latest thread need someone with knowledge to rate my eye area.

I have to finish an order I got from someone on Fiverr first.

 

[Ceo of cope]

You can be jealous about somebody's height and not be a fucking incel lol

Appreciate it. Yeah harmony is underrated. After learning about facial aesthetics in the 2020 pandemic I observed a lot of faces going about my day to day shit irl consciously/subconsciously and realised none of these amazing features matter for shit if you don't have harmony and that also the biggest halo to a face is the eye-area, not the jaw, not the cheekbones and not the smile.

yeah i know about the jealousy bit. Its just that usually incels put an emphasis on the wrong things, like giga height and frame thinking that would save them from inceldom. Maybe to cope with their face idk.

Also smile is def important to be regarded as good looking by normies, and cheekbones is the 1 area of bone structure that normies actually unanimously accept on what is attractive and know a lot about, especiallly women

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

yeah i know about the jealousy bit. Its just that usually incels put an emphasis on the wrong things, like giga height and frame thinking that would save them from inceldom. Maybe to cope with their face idk.

Also smile is def important to be regarded as good looking by normies, and cheekbones is the 1 area of bone structure that normies actually unanimously accept on what is attractive and know a lot about, especiallly women

Smile basically means palate width and teeth lol

Get MSE and veneers.

 

[KingBetaTut]

what is this frame lmao

 

[ZPX97]

Thank you for your help guys.
I didnt know I was this lucky with my genetics.
Im like 93 kg right now I will bulk to 105 kg and than make a diet.

 

[owlofathena]

Thank you for your help guys.
I didnt know I was this lucky with my genetics.
Im like 93 kg right now I will bulk to 105 kg and than make a diet.

How can you be 93kg with those legs lol

 

[edodalic29]

Bulk , but clean foods , no more burek

 

[Deleted member 16220]

im caging at this forum this nigga has god tier frame and god tier height wtf i am leaving

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Tag me when u find it
Also mirin keeping it real w your posts

There you are:

THE DEVASTATING SCAPULA-SHOULDER PILL - THIS HAS DESTROYED MY LIFE ⚠

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[MakinItHappenReturn]

Both train equally as hard, only Jeff's clavicles are better, giving him the more wider look

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Both train equally as hard, only Jeff's clavicles are better, giving him the more wider look

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And you thought Jacked and Stacked shoulders didn't slope lol

@Ceo of cope