28 year old virgin / late bloomer / ugly duckling / loser

[Deleted member 22015]

Howdy. Don't wanna bore you with my sad story too much but i'm 28 and i'm pretty much a complete failure at life and with girls. I've never gotten laid and i've never had a girlfriend. Usually the general consensus is that I'm ugly and look like I got a small dick and being 5'7" is an obstacle in its own right too, so between that and acting like a bitch you can imagine why girls in college never were interested. It depressed me so much actually that I dropped out of college and have basically just been a minimum wage drone worker pot smoker at a million and a half jobs over the last ten years. I just spent this last summer digging ditches for 12 an hour and other assorted shit work such as roofing laborer. I feel like i'm invisible and a subhuman piece of garbage to everyone. It's not even that I'm physically weak it's that I hit puberty late or I have some sort of androgen problem so I still get mistaken for a college freshman and an ugly one at that. I lack hair on my chest and I can't grow a decent beard for shit. I've been depressed and suicidal lately and I don't even really think I can go another year like this so I figured I'd post here and get some opinions. Obviously I should shave (and then people bitch that you got no facial hair too so ur screwed either way lol) and go to the gym for a start. Life just isn't worth living being alone I don't feel like, behavior is one thing to sort out on its own but I need some thoughts on what to do. Thanks

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[Mouthbreath]

bimax

should have done that ten years ago

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Youre white how did you let it get this bad?

You could easily get a short asian girlfriend.

You dont need to necessarily shave beards can look good if pulled off right.

Also as a 28 year old man you should put more focus into actually being able to earn more money. If you have no money you will literally not be able to improve.

 

[elld101]

You're MTN imo. You look younger than 28. I'd never guess you were a virgin. If you looksmaxxed you can probably get a decent Becky with a bit of look. But in your case I'd recommend geomaxxing.

You sound exactly like me except I'm 27 and survived uni by being a hermit.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

bimax

should have done that ten years ago

Hes a brokecel

 

[Deleted member 17244]

pheno, midface and eye area cuck u hard. Unfixable. Over

 

[Deleted member 18244]

That sucks dude. Get clean shaven, get tiktok hair, and start lifting.

You seem to suffer from long face and there is no cure from that, but you can get a skin routine also, and work on that upper eyelid exposure with ice hooding.

Overall I think you’re ltn now but you can be mtn, which is enough to get a (not hot) girlfriend

 

[elld101]

Also as a 28 year old man you should put more focus into actually being able to earn more money. If you have no money you will literally not be able to improve.

I'm 27 own my own apartment and have quite a lot of savings. In a decent paying job as well and stocksmaxxed and cryptomaxxed.

Maybe it's appealing to some foids, but nobody kno a this on first impressions. Tbh I don't want a good who sees me as a provider. Bitch needs to be working as well.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

That sucks dude. Get clean shaven, get tiktok hair, and start lifting.

You seem to suffer from long face and there is no cure from that, but you can get a skin routine also, and work on that upper eyelid exposure with ice hooding.

Overall I think you’re ltn now but you can be mtn, which is enough to get a (not hot) girlfriend

yeah almost a wizard just needs to take a shower and tiktok haircut i feel sorry for OP,but imo he's looksmaxxed rn.Gymceling doesne help him

 

[Deleted member 6128]

I'm 27 own my own apartment and have quite a lot of savings. In a decent paying job as well and stocksmaxxed and cryptomaxxed.

Maybe it's appealing to some foids, but nobody kno a this on first impressions. Tbh I don't want a good who sees me as a provider. Bitch needs to be working as well.

The money isnt to betabux its for him to get surgeries and geomax he could easily get SEA girlfriend

 

[Deleted member 18244]

yeah almost a wizard just needs to take a shower and tiktok haircut i feel sorry for OP,but imo he's looksmaxxed rn.Gymceling doesne help him

So what should he do, just kill himself? I think mtn is achievable for him

 

[Deleted member 6128]

yeah almost a wizard just needs to take a shower and tiktok haircut i feel sorry for OP,but imo he's looksmaxxed rn.Gymceling doesne help him

He can still improve facially we cant really say or not cause he provided shit pictures

 

[Deleted member 22015]

bimax

should have done that ten years ago

lol....no

 

[Mouthbreath]

lol....no

why not?

 

[poopoohead]

Dead

Howdy. Don't wanna bore you with my sad story too much but i'm 28 and i'm pretty much a complete failure at life and with girls. I've never gotten laid and i've never had a girlfriend. Usually the general consensus is that I'm ugly and look like I got a small dick and being 5'7" is an obstacle in its own right too, so between that and acting like a bitch you can imagine why girls in college never were interested. It depressed me so much actually that I dropped out of college and have basically just been a minimum wage drone worker pot smoker at a million and a half jobs over the last ten years. I just spent this last summer digging ditches for 12 an hour and other assorted shit work such as roofing laborer. I feel like i'm invisible and a subhuman piece of garbage to everyone. It's not even that I'm physically weak it's that I hit puberty late or I have some sort of androgen problem so I still get mistaken for a college freshman and an ugly one at that. I lack hair on my chest and I can't grow a decent beard for shit. I've been depressed and suicidal lately and I don't even really think I can go another year like this so I figured I'd post here and get some opinions. Obviously I should shave (and then people bitch that you got no facial hair too so ur screwed either way lol) and go to the gym for a start. Life just isn't worth living being alone I don't feel like, behavior is one thing to sort out on its own but I need some thoughts on what to do. Thanks

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You might be able to go to Asia and find someone there. The website name for people who are interested in this is Geomax.me You could try and become richer through going to some trade or some other job that pays better than minimum wage. Your also not subhuman. Good luck

 

[Deleted member 22015]

Youre white how did you let it get this bad?

You could easily get a short asian girlfriend.

You dont need to necessarily shave beards can look good if pulled off right.

Also as a 28 year old man you should put more focus into actually being able to earn more money. If you have no money you will literally not be able to improve.

money isn't gonna compensate for shit looks either tbh

Overall I think you’re ltn now but you can be mtn, which is enough to get a (not hot) girlfriend

oh great so what ugly chunky chicks for life huh

yeah almost a wizard just needs to take a shower and tiktok haircut i feel sorry for OP,but imo he's looksmaxxed rn.Gymceling doesne help him

i've done manual labor for years n shit and its not like i ever have bodybuilder amounts of muscle but even being physically strong doesn't cut it

So what should he do, just kill himself?

i'm considering it lmao

 

[Deleted member 22015]

why not?

because i'm not bi?

 

[Deleted member 22015]

Dead

You might be able to go to Asia and find someone there. The website name for people who are interested in this is Geomax.me You could try and become richer through going to some trade or some other job that pays better than minimum wage. Your also not subhuman. Good luck

meh that would just be giving up. subhuman is a matter of opinion i'm afraid. thx anyway

 

[Bitch]

The money isnt to betabux its for him to get surgeries and geomax he could easily get SEA girlfriend

Nigga I thought Short Ugly and Brown was back fr jfl

 

[Deleted member 6128]

money isn't gonna compensate for shit looks either tbh

oh great so what ugly chunky chicks for life huh

i've done manual labor for years n shit and its not like i ever have bodybuilder amounts of muscle but even being physically strong doesn't cut it

i'm considering it lmao

Ugly chunky chicks was the hand u were dealt with you must deal with it

Youre looksmatch Becky is being plowed by Chad as we speak

 

[Mouthbreath]

because i'm not bi?

well then I would go with a tri max

 

[Deleted member 22015]

Youre looksmatch Becky is being plowed by Chad as we speak

i'm painfully aware of it, i just don't give a shit, that is rumination and rumination doesn't help you in the present moment. it's all you have

 

[Deleted member 22015]

well then I would go with a tri max

too many terms i need english

 

[Moggie]

is that the best facial hair you can grow? Either clean shaven or this.

 

[Deleted member 22015]

is that the best facial hair you can grow? Either clean shaven or this.

it seems to be slowly growing better over time if i do enough exercise to boost T and my depression makes me not wanna eat which also cripples T and therefore facial hair but i have no control over it and if i have no facial hair then i just look like a faget anyway

 

[Moggie]

it seems to be slowly growing better over time if i do enough exercise to boost T and my depression makes me not wanna eat which also cripples T and therefore facial hair but i have no control over it and if i have no facial hair then i just look like a faget anyway

hmm maybe go for a clean shave, you could experiment with minox facial hair but I think its a meme due to minox effects on skin quality and the trade not being worth it.

 

[Deleted member 18244]

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oh great so what ugly chunky chicks for life huh

You gotta be realistic in this game bro. You won’t be fucking models but you can get some type of girl. It’s up to you. Why should they fuck you if you’re not hot or rich?

 

[Moggie]

also cant assess your profile with that poor posture jutting meme pic

 

[Deleted member 22015]

hmm maybe go for a clean shave, you could experiment with minox facial hair but I think its a meme due to minox effects on skin quality and the trade not being worth it.

yeah and it's not real either it's like getting a ten inch dick through penis enlargement vanity surgery, you don't have the pride of saying it was natural. so i view it as an L and i'm just trying to be patient but i've been patient for a long time. maybe i just need patience?

 

[poopoohead]

@da28yroldvirgin for now you should just focus on money and excersize

 

[Moggie]

how much body hair do you have?

 

[Deleted member 22015]

You gotta be realistic in this game bro. You won’t be fucking models but you can get some type of girl. It’s up to you. Why should they fuck you if you’re not hot or rich?

i can try as hard as i can to be hotter that's all i can do, if the only kind of girl i can get is a girl i can't get an erection for then there's no point anyway and i probably already have E.D.

 

[Deleted member 22015]

how much body hair do you have?

legs, arms, happy trail, pits and bush (obviously), shitty neckbeard and on cheeks, no back hair, no chest hair except nipple hair

 

[Deleted member 22015]

might actually need TRT for all i know

 

[Moggie]

legs, arms, happy trail, pits and bush (obviously), shitty neckbeard and on cheeks, no back hair, no chest hair except nipple hair

hmm maybe you are low dht?

 

[Moggie]

might actually need TRT for all i know

you could always get tested

 

[Deleted member 22015]

hmm maybe you are low dht?

thats the hair hormone so yeah, it's also the dick hormone, seeing as i'm not particularly hairy and have a 6.5 penis i probably do have low DHT but my understanding is that's a once in a lifetime thing and once you stop physically growing and pass that window ur fucked so its not like you can naturally get hairier or get a bigger cock

you could always get tested

i did sometime last year and he said my T was "excellent" maybe he was bullshitting me. also said E.D. was psychological but you honestly get low T from just not being around horny bitches and you won't be around horny bitches unless ur hot so there ya go vicious cycle

 

[Moggie]

thats the hair hormone so yeah, it's also the dick hormone, seeing as i'm not particularly hairy and have a 6.5 penis i probably do have low DHT but my understanding is that's a once in a lifetime thing and once you stop physically growing and pass that window ur fucked so its not like you can naturally get hairier or get a bigger cock

your penis size is fine and above average dont fall for the my 8 inch cock larps. Maybe it is just androgen sensitivity not being even in your body.

i did sometime last year and he said my T was "excellent" maybe he was bullshitting me. also said E.D. was psychological but you honestly get low T from just not being around horny bitches and you won't be around horny bitches unless ur hot so there ya go vicious cycle

should have asked for numbers from him, healthy T rage is bs and goes down to like 300 ng/dl jfl

 

[Deleted member 22015]

your penis size is fine and above average dont fall for the my 8 inch cock larps. Maybe it is just androgen sensitivity not being even in your body.

should have asked for numbers from him, healthy T rage is bs and goes down to like 300 ng/dl jfl

can u get androgen sensitivity back if ur past the "normal" pubescent years, this may be part of what really being a late bloomer means or it just might mean i'm never a particularly hairy guy but my dad and an uncle are pretty hairy

he probably just took one look at it and saw it was within healthy range, i dont recall the exact numbers but i'm def gonna get tested again this shit matters because it affects how u look and how u feel

 

[Moggie]

can u get androgen sensitivity back if ur past the "normal" pubescent years, this may be part of what really being a late bloomer means or it just might mean i'm never a particularly hairy guy but my dad and an uncle are pretty hairy

he probably just took one look at it and saw it was within healthy range, i dont recall the exact numbers but i'm def gonna get tested again this shit matters because it affects how u look and how u feel

no idea, I am also a late bloomer except I am 22 rn.

 

[Deleted member 22015]

no idea, I am also a late bloomer except I am 22 rn.

late blooming sux

 

[Pakicel]

Howdy. Don't wanna bore you with my sad story too much but i'm 28 and i'm pretty much a complete failure at life and with girls. I've never gotten laid and i've never had a girlfriend. Usually the general consensus is that I'm ugly and look like I got a small dick and being 5'7" is an obstacle in its own right too, so between that and acting like a bitch you can imagine why girls in college never were interested. It depressed me so much actually that I dropped out of college and have basically just been a minimum wage drone worker pot smoker at a million and a half jobs over the last ten years. I just spent this last summer digging ditches for 12 an hour and other assorted shit work such as roofing laborer. I feel like i'm invisible and a subhuman piece of garbage to everyone. It's not even that I'm physically weak it's that I hit puberty late or I have some sort of androgen problem so I still get mistaken for a college freshman and an ugly one at that. I lack hair on my chest and I can't grow a decent beard for shit. I've been depressed and suicidal lately and I don't even really think I can go another year like this so I figured I'd post here and get some opinions. Obviously I should shave (and then people bitch that you got no facial hair too so ur screwed either way lol) and go to the gym for a start. Life just isn't worth living being alone I don't feel like, behavior is one thing to sort out on its own but I need some thoughts on what to do. Thanks

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Need money/status to ascend. I would go back to college and try to make career.

 

[Pakicel]

yeah almost a wizard just needs to take a shower and tiktok haircut i feel sorry for OP,but imo he's looksmaxxed rn.Gymceling doesne help him

It's the deformed midface and eye area. And there is the height.

Man, I really wished he was at least a normie. I feel bad for him.

 

[Deleted member 22015]

Need money/status to ascend. I would go back to college and try to make career.

i'm saving money getting psychological help and try to looks max for the next four months then i'm going back spring semester i got 90 credits remaining for a bachelors. last time i was on campus i just got ridiculed so i figured i would take this time to looksmax gym or whatever and anger management. college socialization is waste of time basically unless you are looksmaxed and socialization maxed imo

 

[Deleted member 17244]

It's the deformed midface and eye area. And there is the height.

Man, I really wished he was at least a normie. I feel bad for him.

he's 3/10.

 

[Deleted member 22015]

It's the deformed midface and eye area. And there is the height.

Man, I really wished he was at least a normie. I feel bad for him.

well thats just like your opinion man lol but i don't feel bad for me

 

[Deleted member 22015]

he's 3/10.

i don't have any feelings left for you to hurt don't worry

 

[Pakicel]

well thats just like your opinion man lol but i don't feel bad for me

Well. It is I know. I just wish the best for you tbh.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

i don't have any feelings left for you to hurt don't worry

im blackpilled af and i dont wanna gaslight you. People here tend to overrate worse looking men and underrate better looking

 

[Deleted member 22015]

Well. It is I know. I just wish the best for you tbh.

maybe maybe not i'm gonna put a nine in my mouth if i don't get any hotter tho and don't get to use my dick